Chief
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Post by Chief on Mar 8, 2020 11:07:12 GMT -6
Best practices for a struggling program?
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 8, 2020 11:25:24 GMT -6
"Success is a Choice" by Rick Pitino talks about deserving success. It is a pretty good book. A very bare bones synopsis of this concept is that the kids have to work their tails off, and then have some success (so scheduling can help).
The number one thing is probably weightroom. If the program has been struggling for the last several years, I am willing to bet a large sum that the players are slower, weaker, and less explosive than their opponents.
The key is that both have to be involved. My HS career was dismal. 4 coaches over 4 years, no stability, no S&C program other than maybe 6-8 weeks in the summer, no inseason lifting. We were 2-8, 2-8, 2-8, 1-9. The coach who took over my senior (1-9) year was able to implement the scheduling adjustments, but the school environment still limited the S&C portion. The year after I graduated, they started out 5-0 but then went 0-5 in district play, and repeated that basic model over the next couple of years. Then the teams they were beating predistrict quit scheduling, and they still couldn't beat the teams in district so it was back to 3 or less wins for a bit.
New HC takes over, school changes up some things and they are able to get in the weight room more often, and the team wins district a few years later.
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Chief
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Post by Chief on Mar 8, 2020 12:11:07 GMT -6
"Success is a Choice" by Rick Pitino talks about deserving success. It is a pretty good book. A very bare bones synopsis of this concept is that the kids have to work their tails off, and then have some success (so scheduling can help). The number one thing is probably weightroom. If the program has been struggling for the last several years, I am willing to bet a large sum that the players are slower, weaker, and less explosive than their opponents. The key is that both have to be involved. My HS career was dismal. 4 coaches over 4 years, no stability, no S&C program other than maybe 6-8 weeks in the summer, no inseason lifting. We were 2-8, 2-8, 2-8, 1-9. The coach who took over my senior (1-9) year was able to implement the scheduling adjustments, but the school environment still limited the S&C portion. The year after I graduated, they started out 5-0 but then went 0-5 in district play, and repeated that basic model over the next couple of years. Then the teams they were beating predistrict quit scheduling, and they still couldn't beat the teams in district so it was back to 3 or less wins for a bit. New HC takes over, school changes up some things and they are able to get in the weight room more often, and the team wins district a few years later. Our weight room was really behind when we took over. Slowly but surely getting it going. Ability level was down too. We have some good classes coming up and we have softened our schedule but we need to instill this confidence now. |
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Post by badtotheflexbone on Mar 8, 2020 13:06:53 GMT -6
Coaches have mentioned (as a guy who lifts weight pretty much every day I agree with) something amazing/psychologically happens when you go from thinking you were NEVER able to do something to now being able squat 300+ lbs, bench 200+ lbs, clean 225+ lbs etc. You start to think...what else can I do? If I can move this much weight, can't wait to use this on the football field. That is confidence
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Post by coachgreen05 on Mar 8, 2020 14:09:41 GMT -6
I think that comes from the coaches. Kids believing in you. Being organized, having answers to problems.
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Post by CS on Mar 8, 2020 14:10:38 GMT -6
Coaches have mentioned (as a guy who lifts weight pretty much every day I agree with) something amazing/psychologically happens when you go from thinking you were NEVER able to do something to now being able squat 300+ lbs, bench 200+ lbs, clean 225+ lbs etc. You start to think...what else can I do? If I can move this much weight, can't wait to use this on the football field. That is confidence Agreed whole heartedly. They start moving big boy weight they will think their d!cks grew 2in. |
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Post by coachcb on Mar 8, 2020 15:19:52 GMT -6
In the off-season, the weight room is the key, IMO.
During the season, seeing and emphasizing the smallest of successes each work is important. There's fundamental execution that we expect to be done correctly as coaches but the kids need those "atta-boys" consistently for affirmation. The kids thought I was about to stroke-out when they finally played their BDSD and gap exchange rules correctly and stomped a trap scheme during a defensive inside run session this season....
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Post by Defcord on Mar 8, 2020 16:24:32 GMT -6
Coaches have mentioned (as a guy who lifts weight pretty much every day I agree with) something amazing/psychologically happens when you go from thinking you were NEVER able to do something to now being able squat 300+ lbs, bench 200+ lbs, clean 225+ lbs etc. You start to think...what else can I do? If I can move this much weight, can't wait to use this on the football field. That is confidence Agreed whole heartedly. They start moving big boy weight they will think their d!cks grew 2in. Shoot for 2 inches I might start lifting again! |
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Post by larrymoe on Mar 8, 2020 19:20:00 GMT -6
Agreed whole heartedly. They start moving big boy weight they will think their d!cks grew 2in. Shoot for 2 inches I might start lifting again! If you lose 35 pounds, if you're a male, you are gaining one inch of penis length... But, I digress... |
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Post by CS on Mar 9, 2020 4:01:52 GMT -6
Anyone else ever derailed a thread from anything to male enhancement? I deserve a medal or something
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 9, 2020 5:38:30 GMT -6
Anyone else ever derailed a thread from anything to male enhancement? I deserve a medal or something Not sure - but pithy/grad17/1862/whatever his next name will be -tried to take a thread talking about the difference between face to face coaches meetings and online/electronic communication between coaches to a discussion about coaches being inappropriate with students. So there is that |
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Post by rsmith627 on Mar 9, 2020 5:42:17 GMT -6
Anyone else ever derailed a thread from anything to male enhancement? I deserve a medal or something Not sure - but pithy/grad17/1862/whatever his next name will be -tried to take a thread talking about the difference between face to face coaches meetings and online/electronic communication between coaches to a discussion about coaches being inappropriate with students. So there is that Is that the same jackass who implied we're bad coaches if we don't use expensive pens, while complaining about being poor and almost homeless? |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 9, 2020 5:47:00 GMT -6
Not sure - but pithy/grad17/1862/whatever his next name will be -tried to take a thread talking about the difference between face to face coaches meetings and online/electronic communication between coaches to a discussion about coaches being inappropriate with students. So there is that Is that the same jackass who implied we're bad coaches if we don't use expensive pens, while complaining about being poor and almost homeless? No. Different coach. That was murdr. |
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Post by CS on Mar 9, 2020 5:55:26 GMT -6
Is that the same jackass who implied we're bad coaches if we don't use expensive pens, while complaining about being poor and almost homeless? No. Different coach. That was murdr. I miss that guy |
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Post by leaddraw on Mar 9, 2020 8:53:04 GMT -6
#1 Strength and Conditioning
#2 Practice Execution during team Drills not Competition (scout team goes 80%) - Build confidence in the play execution / see yourself winning in practice so you can see yourself winning in games.
#3 Compete in INDO
#4 Find as many ways to teach. coach, and practice team focus/discipline in as many scenarios as possible. Create distraction to create focus. The more focused they are in competition the less distraction thus better results. Usually the most focused/disciplined team wins when the stakes are at its highest.
#5 So important to have team leaders. Too many times we rely on the best athlete not the best leader.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 9, 2020 9:46:00 GMT -6
Many good points, but also consider the background of the kids themselves. In many socio-economically depressed places, the kids are just trying to make it through the day/week/next check comes. They end up learning the only the only thing they need to focus on is right now. Some may say that is it is the selfishness of youth, and that may be the case at times. It may the short attention span of youth also.
However, in trying to change behavior, the individual needs to tangibly see the connection between the action and the reward. As mentioned, if there was not weight program, kids can very quickly see gains; gains = confidence. But if you are tying what you are doing to 'winning more game next year', many of these kids can't see that far into the future. You have to make it in terms of the now.
Regardless of the underlying reasons, you are having to combat their cognitive dissonance; they don't know what they don't know. You have to spoon little bits so that THEY can see and realize the growth.
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Post by stilltryin on Mar 10, 2020 14:37:39 GMT -6
Many good points, but also consider the background of the kids themselves. In many socio-economically depressed places, the kids are just trying to make it through the day/week/next check comes. They end up learning the only the only thing they need to focus on is right now. Some may say that is it is the selfishness of youth, and that may be the case at times. It may the short attention span of youth also. However, in trying to change behavior, the individual needs to tangibly see the connection between the action and the reward. As mentioned, if there was not weight program, kids can very quickly see gains; gains = confidence. But if you are tying what you are doing to 'winning more game next year', many of these kids can't see that far into the future. You have to make it in terms of the now. Regardless of the underlying reasons, you are having to combat their cognitive dissonance; they don't know what they don't know. You have to spoon little bits so that THEY can see and realize the growth. Well said. |
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jaydub66
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Post by jaydub66 on Mar 10, 2020 15:00:30 GMT -6
It starts from the top down. Kids will pick up on how you and your assistants act.
When you teach something, how you react to good and bad things, etc. They pick up on your behavior.
If a kid fumbles and you get up in his grill and start MF'ing him, the other kids are going to see when things get tough, complain, whine, and finger point.
Set realistic goals and expectations and when kids live up to these expectations, let them know you're proud of them and what their next goal should be.
Role model behavior is the biggest thing. They see the people they look up to and respect acting one way, they're going to act that way.
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Post by Coach Vint on Mar 11, 2020 9:13:58 GMT -6
Celebrate every single success, no matter how small. They have to have small success before big success. And the weight room and your level of intensity and accountability will determine the success of your weight room.
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