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Post by sls on Aug 8, 2006 16:26:00 GMT -6
what do you do?
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Post by airman on Aug 8, 2006 16:32:07 GMT -6
work on fundamentals. it all goes back to fundamentals. explain things more. ask kids what they do and do not understand.
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Post by bulldog on Aug 8, 2006 17:00:04 GMT -6
If you're not getting anything accomplished, first try to get the leaders to change things. If that doesn't work, then throw them off the field and challenge the leaders to bring a new attitude and improve the effort tomorrow.
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Post by groundchuck on Aug 8, 2006 18:28:25 GMT -6
Sometime it is not going right it b/c you are trying to challenge them with something and it is not going well. They just need to get into a rythum. If that is the case then I go back to our base play and run it a few times vs a vanilla front or even on air just to get some flow going again. This has worked well. An example would be we are trying to run veer and we keep fumbling, and the kids are frustrated instead of continuing on it right then we'll come back to it after doing something they are good at/easier to do.
If it not going well and it is because of lack of hustle/laziness then we stop and do a gasser or 2. I refer to them as "attitude adjusters." This will usually do the trick.
I have kicked the kids off the field and told them to go in, and come back out in 5 minutes when I blow the whistle. In the meantime the captains and leaders had better be getting everyone's heads screwed on right. The next time we just run for the balance of practice time. To my kids' credit we only did that once, my 2nd year.
I have mixed feelings on ending practice prematurely on a bad note (I'll end a little early if we are clicking on all cylinders). I would rather have them get something accomplished or at least have the feeling of "crap we had better not be lazy tomorrow". ;D Just the opinion of a guy with more posts on the board than career wins. ;D
I have told the players that at some point it is all on them. There is a certain tempo and attitude we need to operate at. If they choose not to operate at that level on a regular basis they need to ask themselves why are they playing football.
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Post by tog on Aug 8, 2006 22:15:38 GMT -6
script for success
and don't let it
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Post by toprowguy on Aug 8, 2006 22:26:34 GMT -6
Just got home from a bad practice. Yelled at a few kids beacuse they didn't know where to line up but I hate doing that. Can't wait to get in tomorrow morning and watch the film from practice but I can't sleep.
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Post by coachjd on Aug 9, 2006 6:32:39 GMT -6
we have sent the kids in and told them to come back out in 10 min and started practice over at period 1 when they got back out.
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Post by brophy on Aug 9, 2006 6:59:00 GMT -6
script / plan practice to go for short bouts of high intensity. I've seen a lot of practices suck mainly because the COACHES "sucked", or more to the point, didn't exude the confidence and excitement that they wanted from the players.
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Post by coachjd on Aug 9, 2006 7:05:00 GMT -6
We are very organized and detailed in our practice plans along with scripting the entire practice and we have had a day or two in my 6 years at the school I am at now where the kids were just going through the motions. About 15 min into practice the head coach sent them in and told them to come back out when they were ready to work hard. About 10 min later they came back out and we started practice over at period 1 and it was one of our best practices we ever had.
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Post by tog on Aug 9, 2006 7:08:05 GMT -6
script / plan practice to go for short bouts of high intensity. I've seen a lot of practices suck mainly because the COACHES "sucked", or more to the point, didn't exude the confidence and excitement that they wanted from the players. how about coaches that can't "feel" the team doing well and pick a battle at every given opportunity to ruin that momentum? |
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Post by groundchuck on Aug 9, 2006 7:12:26 GMT -6
That debate about coaches vs players thread on the board...this is where coaching comes in. The psychology and management of a situation. Knowing when the push the buttons and pull the levers. I have seen and worked with coaches should have realized they were partly to blame for the apathy in practice. script / plan practice to go for short bouts of high intensity. I've seen a lot of practices suck mainly because the COACHES "sucked", or more to the point, didn't exude the confidence and excitement that they wanted from the players. how about coaches that can't "feel" the team doing well and pick a battle at every given opportunity to ruin that momentum? |
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Post by phantom on Aug 9, 2006 8:55:12 GMT -6
In what way, exactly, did it suck? |
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Post by brophy on Aug 9, 2006 9:02:29 GMT -6
the head coach sent them in and told them to come back out when they were ready to work hard. About 10 min later they came back out and we started practice over at period 1 and it was one of our best practices we ever had. we've done that before, and have had a coach do that to me before,too (guy started us over to Period I, like three times that day....lol). That certainly wakes them up. |
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Post by sls on Aug 9, 2006 12:08:59 GMT -6
In what way, exactly, did it suck? Just going through the motions. |
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Post by fbdoc on Aug 9, 2006 13:01:53 GMT -6
Player motivation can fluctuate quite a bit from day to day. We always try to grab their attention right at the beginning and start on an upbeat note. Once you get into the routine of your practice, you can find that you are simply getting ahead of what the kids can handle, whether its schemes or intensity. When I feel we're at this point, we always try and scale back to our base offense or defense (for a period, a day, or longer) until the quality has returned.
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Post by brophy on Aug 9, 2006 13:33:51 GMT -6
be critical of the symptoms;
1) What is it that WE might be doing that makes them lethargic?
-----are periods designed for an extended period of over exertion without a break?
-----what is OUR attitudes like? What are we conveying with our body language?
-----Are we TEACHING or HOLLERING? Can our message be misunderstood / confusing?
-----Do we encourage the extra effort? Is it rewarded?
2) What is it that THEY might be doing that makes them lethargic?
-----Are they grabassing without being accountable?
-----Is there a routine established yet for expectations?
-----Are the leaders being vocal? If no, why not?
-----What could possibly be taking their attention from having fun with football? (big dance, personal death, too much stimulus)?
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Post by phantom on Aug 9, 2006 18:42:12 GMT -6
Also, was it an isolated case or is it a chronic problem? It it was just one bad day, well, you're going to have them. You can't accept it and you have to address it but they will happen.
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Post by kcbazooka on Aug 9, 2006 19:40:50 GMT -6
Agree with most of what has already been said. When a practice "sucks" its usually because of something I did. If the kids are having a bad practice end it with some drill or some thing you know they will do well. Try to get them, and your coaches, and you in a positive frame of mind before you leave the field.
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Post by dmp225 on Aug 9, 2006 20:31:29 GMT -6
i ask the manager to get me some water, and I thank God that I am not the head coach.
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Post by benchwarmer on Aug 12, 2006 18:22:07 GMT -6
I have always asked my coaches, 'Do we feel like getting up to go to work everyday? Do we always give it 100% everyday at work? If you are honest you will answer no to both questions.
It is the same thing with the kids, same thing in college, same thing in the NFL. Why do upsets happen? One of the toughest things about coaching is getting a maximum effort every practice and every game, especially with the mental part of the game, you may succeed in a game but in a practice I doubt it if anyone gives it 100% every single practie and play throughout the season.
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Post by dacoachmo on Aug 12, 2006 21:35:03 GMT -6
REALITY CHECK because of everday grind is getting to them
FUN TIME because they are getting bored and need to see/hear somebody different
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Post by gulfcoastoffense on Aug 12, 2006 22:42:55 GMT -6
Yesterday's practice sucked for us. Some of it was my fault, but most of it was their fault. Lack of concentration. This is my first year as offensive coordinator and I have set my expectations a little high. That part is my fault. But not being able to go on any other snap count than on 1 isn't my fault. Maybe because it was Friday, or maybe because it was the second day of school. Whatever the reason, the offensive line could not concentrate. They go to the line knowing the snap count, get set on the line, start their communication and its like they forget the snap count. After the 3rd or 4th time, I was sick of seeing them jump early so I fired them all. The second line came in and did fine. After a quick break, the O Line coach gave them a 3 strikes and your out rule. 8 gassers if they jump 3 times. After the second time they moved early, I got them in the huddle, called out a snap count and had all 11 of them clap their hands on the proper count. The last 10 plays were run without jumping. They were probably more worried about the 8 gassers though!
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