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Post by wingtol on Oct 6, 2006 6:16:38 GMT -6
Just wondering if any of you have had problems with the Revolution helmets by Ridell? We just had on crack yesterday, this is the 3rd one we have had break in the last two years. They have all cracked on the extended jaw pad part. Any one else having trouble?
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Post by coachf on Oct 6, 2006 6:33:46 GMT -6
We have had one do that this year. We got a brand new one in return. I let our kids buy their own this year and they absolutely love them. Our Riddell rep does a really good job of keeping us updated and getting in the products quickly. If we have more than one break then I might wonder if there is a bigger problem.
By the way, 2005- 6 concussions - 2006- 1 concussion. I don't want to be a walking billboard, but we are very happy with the safety of these helmets.
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 6, 2006 6:59:49 GMT -6
We looked into those Revos and decided after research to go with the Schutt DNA helmets. We were told they have a better track record. So far so good.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 6, 2006 7:19:25 GMT -6
We have been happy with them in the concussion dept. Just wanted to see if others had the breakage problem. They have replaced them when they do break
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Post by coachnorm on Oct 6, 2006 7:45:18 GMT -6
We use the Schutt DNA helmets and have had a serious rash of concussions. (7 in 25 players)
By the way, I'm not blaming the helmets just pointing out that helmets will not prevent concussions.
We've tried shock doctor mouthpieces and haven't had a concussion since, but my feeling is that that is a coincidence.
We used Revolutions at the last school I was at and I can't recall one breaking but looking at the design it isn't surprising.
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Post by coachjd on Oct 6, 2006 8:18:28 GMT -6
We have found in both the DNA and Revolutions that the air bladders don't hold air as well as the old blue bladders in the schutt air. Our kids are filling their air bladders 2-3x per week
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Post by mitch on Oct 6, 2006 8:36:52 GMT -6
We had some dna's that cracked by the earhole. Haven't had any revolutions break yet.
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Post by tothehouse on Oct 6, 2006 8:40:42 GMT -6
Having bladder problems......and the Revolution's have bladder problems as well.
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Post by coachf on Oct 6, 2006 11:38:43 GMT -6
Yeah...our kids have to refill the bladders all the time. I am sure there is a joke somewhere in this discussion considering bladders...I may think of it later.  |
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Post by sls on Oct 6, 2006 12:13:45 GMT -6
Last year we bought our first 5 Revolution's no breakage, no concussions.
This year we bought 5 DNA's 1 breakage at the earhole, they are replacing it, no concussions. Broke one of the Revo's at the jawpiece this year.
Air in both is a problem.
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Post by fbdoc on Oct 6, 2006 14:17:11 GMT -6
We've had Revolutions for 2 years now. Kids really like them and we have noticed no problems. Got 2 DNA's this fall and they have also worked out well. We will probably go with Schutts next year when we re-fit our inventory.
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Post by PSS on Oct 6, 2006 20:34:06 GMT -6
Unfortunately, we may be going to Schutt DNA next year. We have had 5 concussions in 6 games this year. The top bladder keeps bursting.
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Post by okpowerspread on Oct 8, 2006 21:43:23 GMT -6
DNA's are awsome helmets. The make the kids look like Kazoo from the jetsons, but they are one of the best helmets out there in my opinion. How crazy is this. . .we had 11 Adams helmets crack last year and we have had 4 break already this year. Will not ever purcuse those again.
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Post by easternkycoach on Oct 9, 2006 21:53:09 GMT -6
The problem with the Adams usually lies in using the wrong facemask, you must use an Adams facemask and should not use a power screwdriver to tighten the masks down. We broke several in the past but none this season. If you are using the Adams facemasks and still breaking them you hit too hard, LOL!
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Post by veerfan on Oct 10, 2006 13:05:11 GMT -6
We have had all the above mentioned problems, as well as having them pop-off during play. I'm sure its due to the fact that they lose air and the helmet is so loose. (Revolutions)
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Post by PSS on Oct 10, 2006 20:35:31 GMT -6
We have had all the above mentioned problems, as well as having them pop-off during play. I'm sure its due to the fact that they lose air and the helmet is so loose. (Revolutions) Yeah, we do have a lot of helmets pop off during play also. I would say about 5 or 6 a game. And we check every kids' helmet before the game. |
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Post by okpowerspread on Oct 10, 2006 21:54:05 GMT -6
Broke another Adams today in practice. It was on a counter play and our guard and DE had one heck of a collision. Split the DE helmet from the holes on top all the way to the front of the helmet. It was a brand new Adams that was sent as a replacement from another broken one.
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Post by poweriguy on Oct 10, 2006 23:08:50 GMT -6
How in the heck do your guys break helmets? All my years as a player and coach I've never seen a helmet break.  Bad bladders. Yes . But cracked shells, no. Do you guys have lots of head to head collisions? We teach to tackle with your shoulder and wrap. Do the kids abuse there helmets? (sit on them, throw them etc.) This confuses me. We have had kids hit as hard as anybody, but never broken helmets. |
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Post by wingtol on Oct 11, 2006 10:23:21 GMT -6
We def do not teach any helmet to helmet hitting. We teach to tackle with the front of your pads with the eyes to the sky. Same for blocking no helmet to helmet. I think the way the Rev helmets are with the extended jaw part makes it weaker in that area thats where ours have craced. And lets be honest no matter how much you coach it there is going to be helmet to helmet contact in some way in every game.
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Post by poweriguy on Oct 11, 2006 11:15:41 GMT -6
I hear you wingtol. I re-read the thread and it seem alot of you guys have the newer helmet designs (revs,dna, etc), where I was at, we had the older style schutt helmets (I still think of them as BIKE helmets.  ) and that's what we bought new every year. Although we only bought like 4 or five a year, that's what we got because noway our program could afford Rev's or DNAs. Wish we had them though . |
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Post by coachnorm on Oct 11, 2006 11:33:19 GMT -6
Poweriguy the older helmets are a hard shell, whereas the newer adams, revos, and DNAs are a softer shell helmet. Take the facemask off and you can flex the things until the earholes touch that may be why you've never seen a broken helmet - the older styles are simply stronger and more rigid, however by being stronger and more rigid more of the impact gets transfered to the head inside. At least that's the theory.
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Post by champ93 on Oct 11, 2006 18:17:52 GMT -6
The only type I've bought over the past 5 years is Revolutions with never a problem of breaking. I had 3 last year that the paint chipped off, but never a break. I like them because you can pump them up around the jaw for many skinny faced kids.
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Post by poweriguy on Oct 11, 2006 21:28:21 GMT -6
Thanks for the explanation coachnorm. |
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Post by gunandrun on Oct 12, 2006 12:05:33 GMT -6
Using the new Adams and the kids love them. They hold air. However, every week i need to adjust a mask or three that goes off center. That is about it. One broke three years ago.
Used to be in the Older Schutt - Bike they stood the test of time.
That is all.
Best of luck
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Bad bladders. Yes . But cracked shells, no.
) and that's what we bought new every year. Although we only bought like 4 or five a year, that's what we got because noway our program could afford Rev's or DNAs. Wish we had them though .