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Post by fantom on Mar 16, 2019 17:33:35 GMT -6
The thread about athletic period made me wonder how common they are.
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Post by CS on Mar 16, 2019 17:41:52 GMT -6
The thread about athletic period made me wonder how common they are. I don’t know if a school in Arkansas that doesn’t have one. I thought it was a thing everywhere |
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Post by fantom on Mar 16, 2019 17:49:03 GMT -6
The thread about athletic period made me wonder how common they are. I don’t know if a school in Arkansas that doesn’t have one. I thought it was a thing everywhere Never heard of it until I got into online coaching forums. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 17:51:27 GMT -6
We have one. Football, boys and girls basketball, baseball have it. We get our football kids for enrichment and 4th block year round. So we get them 2 hours before school gets out.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Mar 16, 2019 18:33:32 GMT -6
Ours is boys weight for athletes. So 4 classes of weights that are almost all boys and are all athletes. Our football players are spread out pretty evenly through the 4 periods.
At my last school there was a essentially a varsity football weights class the first period of every day.
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Post by realdawg on Mar 16, 2019 19:19:12 GMT -6
This semester football wt training 1 and 2 period. There are a few non football players in both classes however. Guidance always screws up a few schedules. General Wt Training 3 pd. Baseball 4 pd. I think all our kids that played last year except maybe 1 JV kid are in one of those 4. All but 3 in 1 or 2nd.
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 16, 2019 19:32:42 GMT -6
We have one. Football, boys and girls basketball, baseball have it. We get our football kids for enrichment and 4th block year round. So we get them 2 hours before school gets out. So you get to work with them for 2 hours before official school dismissal? Or the come to a class 2 hours before dismissal, then go to another class, then back to you at dismissal? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 19:39:49 GMT -6
We have one. Football, boys and girls basketball, baseball have it. We get our football kids for enrichment and 4th block year round. So we get them 2 hours before school gets out. So you get to work with them for 2 hours before official school dismissal? Or the come to a class 2 hours before dismissal, then go to another class, then back to you at dismissal? We get them at 1:06 everyday and have them the rest of the school day which ends at 3:15. |
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Post by jtdunbar on Mar 17, 2019 5:39:37 GMT -6
We have two 100 minute football blocks. I get a freshman/JV group from 11:30 to 1:10 and a varsity group from 1:20 to 3pm through out the school year. We are on a 4 x 4 block schedule.
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 17, 2019 7:03:32 GMT -6
I am not terribly familiar with block scheduling (never had one as a student, don't teach at a HS) what percentage of their school day is spent on football/ these athletic periods? Quick goodle search shows that in a 4x4 it would be 25% correct? Do they take 4 years of this athletics class and take both semesters? @cbroadrick - what time do the students start school each day?
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Post by CS on Mar 17, 2019 7:27:25 GMT -6
I am not terribly familiar with block scheduling (never had one as a student, don't teach at a HS) what percentage of their school day is spent on football/ these athletic periods? Quick goodle search shows that in a 4x4 it would be 25% correct? Do they take 4 years of this athletics class and take both semesters? @cbroadrick - what time do the students start school each day? We have the same set up except we don’t get them for enrichment. We have them for 1:30 everyday before school let’s out. They do the block for all 4 years and our school day is 8-3:15. All athletes(girls and boys)have athletic period. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 17, 2019 7:30:52 GMT -6
I am not terribly familiar with block scheduling (never had one as a student, don't teach at a HS) what percentage of their school day is spent on football/ these athletic periods? Quick goodle search shows that in a 4x4 it would be 25% correct? Do they take 4 years of this athletics class and take both semesters? @cbroadrick - what time do the students start school each day? We have the same set up except we don’t get them for enrichment. We have them for 1:30 everyday before school let’s out. They do the block for all 4 years and our school day is 8-3:15. All athletes(girls and boys)have athletic period. So 25% of your athletes school day is athletics? All year, for 4 years? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 7:41:19 GMT -6
I am not terribly familiar with block scheduling (never had one as a student, don't teach at a HS) what percentage of their school day is spent on football/ these athletic periods? Quick goodle search shows that in a 4x4 it would be 25% correct? Do they take 4 years of this athletics class and take both semesters? @cbroadrick - what time do the students start school each day? School starts at 8:15. They have football 4th block year round all four years. They get a PE credit for it. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 17, 2019 7:54:38 GMT -6
I am not terribly familiar with block scheduling (never had one as a student, don't teach at a HS) what percentage of their school day is spent on football/ these athletic periods? Quick goodle search shows that in a 4x4 it would be 25% correct? Do they take 4 years of this athletics class and take both semesters? @cbroadrick - what time do the students start school each day? School starts at 8:15. They have football 4th block year round all four years. They get a PE credit for it. Wow. So the kids are in actual academic settings from 8:15- 1:06 (minus lunch, minus time between classes) 5 days a week for 4 years? I guess since it does eliminate a bit of the transition time waste because of fewer classes, but taxpayers haven't complained that kids are basically going half day? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 8:16:14 GMT -6
School starts at 8:15. They have football 4th block year round all four years. They get a PE credit for it. Wow. So the kids are in actual academic settings from 8:15- 1:06 (minus lunch, minus time between classes) 5 days a week for 4 years? I guess since it does eliminate a bit of the transition time waste because of fewer classes, but taxpayers haven't complained that kids are basically going half day? No complaints. Would be a lot if we didn’t have it. School I was at last year as HC didn’t have it but 7 of the 10 we played did. This school (I’m DC) has it but 7 of the teams on the schedule also have it. |
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Post by CS on Mar 17, 2019 9:02:55 GMT -6
Wow. So the kids are in actual academic settings from 8:15- 1:06 (minus lunch, minus time between classes) 5 days a week for 4 years? I guess since it does eliminate a bit of the transition time waste because of fewer classes, but taxpayers haven't complained that kids are basically going half day? No complaints. Would be a lot if we didn’t have it. School I was at last year as HC didn’t have it but 7 of the 10 we played did. This school (I’m DC) has it but 7 of the teams on the schedule also have it. Our community would demand 2 blocks if the state would allow it |
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Post by wolverine55 on Mar 17, 2019 9:36:38 GMT -6
I was going to ask how state rules treat this. All athletes are expected to be in our weight training PE versus the regular PE, but if an athletic period was used to do actual football activities, that would be illegal out of season in Iowa I'm 99% sure.
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Post by irishdog on Mar 17, 2019 9:52:41 GMT -6
Most public schools in Texas have some form of an "athletic/activity" period. Some of the private schools have it, but not most of them. The private school I work in is considering adding an athletic period for next year, but they're already putzing it up.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 17, 2019 12:34:04 GMT -6
It varies from school to school around here... Some administrators will shuffle a schedule around and allow for a football weight training period while others won't even entertain the idea of an "athletic weight training period" (i.e. only kids in sports sign up..).
The schools that do have a football specific weight training period basically allowed it out of convenience as 80%+ of the kids in the weight training classes were football players. It made sense to put them all in one-two periods, reduce the class sizes of other periods and free up the facilities for "fitness lifting" classes.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 18, 2019 6:42:34 GMT -6
I was going to ask how state rules treat this. All athletes are expected to be in our weight training PE versus the regular PE, but if an athletic period was used to do actual football activities, that would be illegal out of season in Iowa I'm 99% sure. Since it takes place during the course of the school day, there is no restriction on out of season activities. A school down the road had all the freshman in the 4th block class in the fall. They practiced for about an hour and 15, then put them on the bus and sent them home. Of course that is in season, but there are schools that will have do things in the off season during the class period. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 18, 2019 6:46:43 GMT -6
There is also several charter/acadamies that are opening that tout themselves as 'athletic' schools, basically they will have class for half the day, then have the practice the other half. The o;;ne I'm listing is also capping enrollment at 600 kids. Here's link: Legion Academyif you look under the parents tab you'll see a sampling of the daily scheduiles |
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Post by rosey65 on Mar 18, 2019 11:30:36 GMT -6
I teach the one period of weight lifting we have here. It's split about 50-50 between kids who want to lift and kids who were dumped in it because there was no other class to throw them in.
Sometimes I get lucky and get a football kid.
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Post by fantom on Mar 18, 2019 11:34:11 GMT -6
I teach the one period of weight lifting we have here. It's split about 50-50 between kids who want to lift and kids who were dumped in it because there was no other class to throw them in. Sometimes I get lucky and get a football kid. I had a friend who was excited that he'd convinced admin to start an elective weights class, then the same thing happened to him. |
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Post by veerwego on Mar 19, 2019 11:45:21 GMT -6
We have one. Basketball and baseball have it too, so kids go with their in season coach. We are on a traditional, 7 pd day, so our classes our 52 min. We actually started practice during 7th pd on Tuesdays this year due to limited field space when there were middle school games. Only had a couple coaches for the first 35 min, so that part wasn't great. On Fridays we went to Texas Roadhouse and had steak for pregame meal.
Next year we should have the (almost) entire team in there. We will have all underclassmen in class year round for weights and we can even throw and practice some this time of year when it is nice out. Only thing we will have to do after school is lift middle school kids.
Several schools around here that have block schedule practice basketball during school and send them home at the end of the day. They also practice almost year round.
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Post by realdawg on Mar 19, 2019 12:55:01 GMT -6
We don’t use any of our time to practice. In the off season we lift/run/doncharacter ed. In season we lift/watch film/game plan. But our kids are divided up into 2 class periods. Not all in 1.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Mar 19, 2019 16:45:33 GMT -6
Schools are ran by former art teachers, drama teachers, and cursive teachers. When they cut art, drama and cursive they had to put them somewhere so they made them principals, curriculum gurus that only taught cursive for 2 years, and "Assistant Super Nintendos of Athletics" and every other fake job they could shake a stick at.
That's why a guidance counselor can't figure out Tina is in 2 English II classes at the same time even though a computer program does that math for them.
Never ever be surprised when you finally get a "football weights" class and some how 12 burnouts from the smoke pit are in there.
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Post by thomasmagnum on Mar 20, 2019 17:56:09 GMT -6
We are on 7 period days and we don't have high school athletic period(90%of schools in our state have) but they do give me jr high football during the first 9 weeks(jr high season ends at same time of first 9 weeks) and last 9 weeks so I can have them for jr high spring football and weights. During second and third 9 weeks they have me teaching regular PE to jr high kids at end of the day with another coach. Its not terrible set up but obviously I wish they would listen to me on how we could add HS athletics period and not change that much of the existing schedule
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Post by gccwolverine on Mar 22, 2019 11:02:33 GMT -6
We have the same set up except we don’t get them for enrichment. We have them for 1:30 everyday before school let’s out. They do the block for all 4 years and our school day is 8-3:15. All athletes(girls and boys)have athletic period. So 25% of your athletes school day is athletics? All year, for 4 years? Same set up here. 4 - 1 hour 30 minute blocks. Football guys are in a weight training during 1 of those blocks every once in a while we'll lose a kid from it who is in academic trouble because he failed a class or 2 and has to get caught back up. During the season HC has almost 90% of the team in 1st block. 2nd Semester they are scattered. It counts as their PE credit. |
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Post by cpcollet on Mar 24, 2019 13:44:18 GMT -6
We have 7th-hour weights class for Football, basketball, and baseball. We have a lot of guys that play at least 2 of the 3 sports. When one season ends the athlete goes to the next sport. We all use the Kevin Vanderbush weights program so they are all lifting the same routine and rep scheme. We have a number of other sports that want to have the class but those are the only three sports on campus that have certified teachers as the head coach.
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Post by clowndude on Mar 25, 2019 12:20:56 GMT -6
Life is getting good at my place. We have a 7th hr athletics period that all athletes attend. This year they placed about 25 of my football players and 10 baseball guys in 1st hours weights. That class is in addition to the 7th hr class.
Next year, they are setting up a weightlifting class throughout the day. Classes are JH boys, JH girls, HS boys, HS girls, and an open Weightlifting class. This is not common throughout the state, but there are high schools here and there that are adopting this approach to athletics, and those schools typically improve in all sports.
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