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Post by wingt74 on Nov 12, 2007 9:36:16 GMT -6
Here is a formation the Packers used yesterday
X..........T..G..C..G..T..........X
....................Q
............F...............F
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First, the announcers were pretty funny. First they called it the "'ol Wing T...or Wishbone" which I always get a kick out of.
But, not even sure what to call that formation.
Basically, the Packers used some simple football. Balanced formation, when the defense sets their Dline for Strength, run the ball to the weak-side of the defense.
Sometimes the simple stuff works.
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Post by dacoachmo on Nov 12, 2007 9:37:33 GMT -6
they have this formation on Madden...forget what they called it...
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Post by lochness on Nov 12, 2007 9:38:50 GMT -6
We call that "Diamond"
We don't run it, but we used to face a team that ran it out of double TE sets.
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Post by brophy on Nov 12, 2007 9:43:22 GMT -6
doesn't really matter what you call it, just so long as it works for you.
I heard the Packers call it "U71" for whatever reason (didn't they used to bring in an extra tackle ?)
at the end of this video is a DIII school running zone out of the formation
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they ran a lot of this formation mainly because it really forces a defense to even up, while being able to stress all areas of the field.
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Post by lochness on Nov 12, 2007 9:50:15 GMT -6
I can't tell you how refreshing it is to see NFL teams actually doing something different and interesting on offense occasionally.
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Post by jonzy91 on Nov 12, 2007 10:53:00 GMT -6
I think the "madden" terminology for this formation is Full House. GB has been showing some pretty interesting formations this year. Including this:
X.....Y....T..G..C..G..T..........X
.......................F
....................Q..H
As mentioned before, nice to see some variation in the NFL.
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Post by dubber on Nov 12, 2007 11:52:15 GMT -6
I always thought a double tight version of this offense would be great for a zone team. Run zone lead and have a guy blocking the backside EMOLOS out.
Good for GL and 4:00 Offense
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Post by paydirt18 on Nov 12, 2007 11:56:20 GMT -6
That formation was originally used, as far as I know, a few years back by the Carolina Panthers. Nothing really special to it and it forces the opposing D to have to balance out.
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Post by Yash on Nov 12, 2007 12:16:10 GMT -6
Its just a full house. its not U71. U71 was when they used to bring in Kevin Barry (now with houston) and put him at TE but he was a tackle. This isn't that, this is just a full house. Also, we are a d3 school and we run some zone out of this formation as well.
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Post by coachcb on Nov 12, 2007 12:16:29 GMT -6
Woody Hayes called it the "robust I formation."
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Post by Yash on Nov 12, 2007 12:41:12 GMT -6
Here we call its Rip Double Plus, if there are two tight then its rex double plus.
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Post by dubber on Nov 12, 2007 12:54:09 GMT -6
not just good for zone stuff, you could probably run some power pitch outta it.
I always kinda prefered this formation over power I......really blanaces things up, as has been mentioned
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Post by lochness on Nov 12, 2007 15:04:37 GMT -6
Its just a full house. its not U71. U71 was when they used to bring in Kevin Barry (now with houston) and put him at TE but he was a tackle. This isn't that, this is just a full house. Also, we are a d3 school and we run some zone out of this formation as well. Isn't U71 a submarine movie with Bon Jovi? |
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Post by optionguy on Nov 12, 2007 15:14:25 GMT -6
"A" formation, when I coached, and we used a TE-SE alignment with it; e.g., "A - Right," which was TE Rt with that particular BF set.
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Post by captain31 on Nov 12, 2007 15:47:26 GMT -6
They called it U71 because of the movie I guess and the main thing was that Barry was #71.
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Post by lawless on Nov 12, 2007 18:45:16 GMT -6
I started using this formation 4 years ago, we call it Diamond. I had two good blocking backs and a quick-as-a-hiccup WR. I put the WR deep, motion one FB across, when they were behind the other FB, we snapped it. Run Toss Sweep to the deep TB (WR in our case), motion FB kicks out corner, stationary FB hooks DE, PSG pulls for S, PS WR cracks on OLB. We killed people with three plays, Toss, Sally and Toss Reverse.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Nov 12, 2007 19:01:42 GMT -6
We used to run Coach Freeb's Equalizer. As a change up for those who would load up on our motion we would run this as a 2 TE set with the FBs at 5 yds behind the OTs. We could run all of the Blast stuff out of it, which was our best stuff. We called it Carolina (because of the Panthers running it obviously).
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 12, 2007 19:51:07 GMT -6
We call that formation Invert and it worked really well for us this year.
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Post by slydaddy on Nov 13, 2007 7:51:16 GMT -6
For you guys that use this, what type of misdirection plays do you use?
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Post by nkcoach on Nov 13, 2007 8:12:35 GMT -6
The movie is U571, there is a 5 in it. Its a remake of the classic, Das Boot.
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Post by nkcoach on Nov 13, 2007 8:15:10 GMT -6
I've seen a team we weren't scouting run this. It looked like they basically ran wishbone plays out of it. Nothing special, but the two "up backs" were a little tighter to the line and they ran some Wing-T style misdirection that was pretty solid.
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Post by lawless on Nov 13, 2007 11:37:05 GMT -6
slydaddy,
sally ( QB spins out like toss and hands off to the FB going the opposite direction with G KOing the EMLOS)
Plain old toss reverse
That is plenty of misdirection...
we also toyed with a true counter to the deep back (TB takes counter tre steps, BSG KOs EMLOS and BSFB turns up on LB.)
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Post by midlineqb on Nov 13, 2007 12:12:44 GMT -6
We faced this Diamond formation this season and had a very difficult time stopping the Lead (Iso). Never really knew which side it was going to attack. If you keyed the TB they would fake a lead and run the other back on a dive. Very effective against us, but we were also 2-7.
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