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Post by Coach Bennett on Nov 28, 2018 9:07:53 GMT -6
While the d-bag coach thread is humorous and getting a lot of miles, how about anecdotes of the truly classy coaches out there?
Like the guy who could put up 50 on you in a quarter and instead runs dive with his 5th string full back for the second half? Or, the coach who takes the time post game to approach one of your stud players who played his heart out only to come up short to simply say he played a helluva game and will have a great college career?
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Post by Wingtman on Nov 28, 2018 9:33:36 GMT -6
I'd like to think there are more of these types then d-bag coaches. Those of us who try to do this the right way, whats best for kids and not show up another coach or a bunch of 15-18 year olds to satisfy our own ego.
I'm in a tough spot, we get our butts kicked on the regular, and I've met only a couple d-bags (Spread team who keeps throwing the ball deep up 50). I've been lucky to play coaches who are respectful, etc. I get it if you're up 50 and your JV is throwing the ball on 3 &7. Those kids need to play too.
I've had lots of conversations at half with coaches who say they are playing their jv on O, and seniors who don't play a lot on D. You know, thats fine. I appreciate the honesty and respectfulness.
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Post by coachcb on Nov 28, 2018 9:38:18 GMT -6
Played a team once that was destroying us with Power and Counter as ALL of our friggin' DEs were flying up field. They were up by 35 at half, plugged their 2s, and 3s in and were still smacking us. We called various stunts to try and slow it down but we just weren't executing and it was going to get ugly. Their 3rd string TB was getting four yards a pop on it. They marched it on our 2s and 3s and punched it in to go up by 42. T
he HC/OC started calling their Toss Sweep and our younger guys shut it down. He called that and a double slant package that they completed twice all game and then they'd punt. After the game, he came over and told us "Man, your DEs play hard: Toss Sweep has been one of our best schemes all year. Just gotta get 'em stepping down coach and they'll be studs."
Great guy.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Nov 28, 2018 9:59:26 GMT -6
In my 2nd year, we were absolutely destroyed by injury (started the year with 52, ended with 21) and had beaten enough of the right teams before we fell apart, to make the post season.
We knew we were gonna die. They knew we were gonna die. They had 9 or 10 guys on their roster who played on some level of college.
Their HC basically said "I know you guys have had it rough, and we would have loved to play you guys at full strength. You'll bounce back, but when I get to 21 I'm going to start pulling guys out." Said he liked us and how we were doing things, and he didn't want us to take heat for getting housed by 60, which could have easily happened.
Our kids didn't really know what was going on, but they got up by 21 about 7 minutes in. And started pulling guys. Our kids started to get down when it was 28-0 after 1. But, the fact that we held them to 10 for the rest of the game was a huge shot of confidence for our kids the next year.
I appreciated that, for what it meant that night and what it meant going forward.
And, I think the "good guys" far out number D-bag guys.
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Post by coachcb on Nov 28, 2018 11:40:41 GMT -6
And, I think the "good guys" far out number D-bag guys. I agree. And, generally speaking, the classier the coach, the more successful they are. The best coach in our classification is hands-down the classiest coach I've ever met. They thumped the hell out of us in the varsity game but we beat their JV the next morning on a last minute scramble-Hail Mary. We forgot to plug in the camera the night before and didn't film the JV game. Their HC found out we didn't have it on tape and, not only did he share it with us without us asking, he also put the last play of that game up as a highlight on their Facebook page and on HUDL. |
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Post by Defcord on Nov 28, 2018 12:00:56 GMT -6
One of the classiest coaches I encountered was when I was hired as a 23 year old baseball coach. I didn't know much about baseball and I didn't know anything about actually coaching. He was a local legend and for a reason. He had won a ton of games and titles. As soon as he saw my name in the paper, he called me and asked if there was anything he could do to help me. Told me I could come by and watch them do things in the off-season and just chat about things if I wanted. He knew I was a football guy and just thrown into baseball so it really meant a lot to get some help.
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Post by 19delta on Nov 28, 2018 18:06:02 GMT -6
We have a new HC this year. Young guy.
Week 2, we are playing one of the second-tier teams in our league. They just aren't very good and we are loaded. We are way more talented.
We should be blowing these guys away but they are playing tough and giving us everything we can handle. Finally, towards the end of the 3rd quarter, we take control of the game. But they are still playing hard and never roll over.
We have the ball at the end of the game, up 26-16. We drive down inside the 5 yard line. But, rather than punch in a meaningless TD to pad the score, our HC has the QB take a knee on all 4 downs and runs out the clock.
I thought that was a classy move...a real tip of the cap to those kids and their coaches for a tough, hard-fought game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 20:07:15 GMT -6
While the d-bag coach thread is humorous and getting a lot of miles, how about anecdotes of the truly classy coaches out there? Like the guy who could put up 50 on you in a quarter and instead runs dive with his 5th string full back for the second half? Or, the coach who takes the time post game to approach one of your stud players who played his heart out only to come up short to simply say he played a helluva game and will have a great college career? When I was a freshman in HS, we were godawful. That team went 1-9 and set conference records for offensive futility that still stand decades later. If we hadn't made an emergency switch from SBV to Wishbone at midseason, which put our best athlete in the backfield instead of TE where he never touched the ball, we wouldn't have gotten our lone win. In our last game of the season, we were beat to death with like 19 healthy bodies and on our 3rd QB of the season, a freshman. We finished the season on the road against a local powerhouse (Greeneville, TN--they play for state again tomorrow) and they flat out creamed us 35-0... but that was about 20 points less than the typical margin of victory. After the game, just as we finished our postgame prayer, their legendary coach (Fred Sorrells) walked over to us to congratulate us on fighting all the way to the end and never backing down from his team. He said we played with heart and told us to "stick with that dang wishbone, 'cause you all were tough to stop!" |
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Post by newhope on Nov 29, 2018 9:26:50 GMT -6
We have a new HC this year. Young guy. Week 2, we are playing one of the second-tier teams in our league. They just aren't very good and we are loaded. We are way more talented. We should be blowing these guys away but they are playing tough and giving us everything we can handle. Finally, towards the end of the 3rd quarter, we take control of the game. But they are still playing hard and never roll over. We have the ball at the end of the game, up 26-16. We drive down inside the 5 yard line. But, rather than punch in a meaningless TD to pad the score, our HC has the QB take a knee on all 4 downs and runs out the clock. I thought that was a classy move...a real tip of the cap to those kids and their coaches for a tough, hard-fought game. I'm a little too old school. I wouldn't think of that as especially classy, I would think of it as just the right thing to do. I think it may be a state of our profession when something that should be routine becomes the exception. Game's over and you can take a knee to run out the clock, then do so. |
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Post by olcoach53 on Nov 29, 2018 9:35:27 GMT -6
We have a new HC this year. Young guy. Week 2, we are playing one of the second-tier teams in our league. They just aren't very good and we are loaded. We are way more talented. We should be blowing these guys away but they are playing tough and giving us everything we can handle. Finally, towards the end of the 3rd quarter, we take control of the game. But they are still playing hard and never roll over. We have the ball at the end of the game, up 26-16. We drive down inside the 5 yard line. But, rather than punch in a meaningless TD to pad the score, our HC has the QB take a knee on all 4 downs and runs out the clock. I thought that was a classy move...a real tip of the cap to those kids and their coaches for a tough, hard-fought game. I'm a little too old school. I wouldn't think of that as especially classy, I would think of it as just the right thing to do. I think it may be a state of our profession when something that should be routine becomes the exception. Game's over and you can take a knee to run out the clock, then do so. You're right, but we have to have this discussion about it being classy because we DO have so many D-Bag coaches out there who try to embarrass the other teams and coaches at every chance they get. |
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Post by coachcb on Nov 29, 2018 11:28:09 GMT -6
We have a new HC this year. Young guy. Week 2, we are playing one of the second-tier teams in our league. They just aren't very good and we are loaded. We are way more talented. We should be blowing these guys away but they are playing tough and giving us everything we can handle. Finally, towards the end of the 3rd quarter, we take control of the game. But they are still playing hard and never roll over. We have the ball at the end of the game, up 26-16. We drive down inside the 5 yard line. But, rather than punch in a meaningless TD to pad the score, our HC has the QB take a knee on all 4 downs and runs out the clock. I thought that was a classy move...a real tip of the cap to those kids and their coaches for a tough, hard-fought game. I'm a little too old school. I wouldn't think of that as especially classy, I would think of it as just the right thing to do. I think it may be a state of our profession when something that should be routine becomes the exception. Game's over and you can take a knee to run out the clock, then do so. You're right, it is the right thing to do. But, there are coaches in our profession that would've punched it in with their #2s. Hell, there are coaches that would have stuck their starters back in to get that last score. |
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Post by 50slantstrong on Nov 29, 2018 13:12:22 GMT -6
Matt Logan at Corona Centennial. Probably the best coach in the state's history. It would be very easy for him to blow people off. He will always take time to explain things to other coaches if they ask at a clinic and will stay as long as needed. Allows other coaches to come to his practices during spring and will explain every little thing on the practice plan before or after.
I know there are some other coaches I've come to appreciate the way they handle things now as a first year head coach and do things I consider classy. There were a couple games we took a beating, and shaking hands they told me about how much better we look than previously and more importantly, IMO, how hard our kids played. My predecessor was a volunteer parent and a coach told me after the game "F the score, your kids looked like they want to play. Ain't no daddy ball going on here anymore". I know it's cheesy, but it's so much better than the "good game, coach" and turn around and yell at your kids to grab their stuff and get on the bus...
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 2, 2018 6:01:07 GMT -6
We have a new HC this year. Young guy. Week 2, we are playing one of the second-tier teams in our league. They just aren't very good and we are loaded. We are way more talented. We should be blowing these guys away but they are playing tough and giving us everything we can handle. Finally, towards the end of the 3rd quarter, we take control of the game. But they are still playing hard and never roll over. We have the ball at the end of the game, up 26-16. We drive down inside the 5 yard line. But, rather than punch in a meaningless TD to pad the score, our HC has the QB take a knee on all 4 downs and runs out the clock. I thought that was a classy move...a real tip of the cap to those kids and their coaches for a tough, hard-fought game. I'm a little too old school. I wouldn't think of that as especially classy, I would think of it as just the right thing to do. I think it may be a state of our profession when something that should be routine becomes the exception. Game's over and you can take a knee to run out the clock, then do so. Having been on the wrong side of many blowouts as a player, I actually disagree with the action. As a player, I would rather have the opponent play, and give me the chance to defend them, even if it should have been a 30 point differential game and it is very likely they would punch it in at will. In this case, I could see the knee being a tactical move because "you never know" and crazy stuff happens (actually won a game when a team fumbled the snap taking a knee to run out the clock) and taking a knee is the safest way to seal the victory with only a ten point lead. But had you been up by 20, as a player, I would have thought taking a knee on me was much more embarrassing towards me than punching it in. Just my perspective |
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Post by newhope on Dec 3, 2018 7:53:35 GMT -6
I think the term classy goes beyond the score board. If you really mean what you say when talking about letting everybody play as much as possible? You cannot call off dogs There's a difference between letting everyone play and being in a situation near the goal line where I can take a knee and end the game. |
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