|
Post by coachd5085 on Oct 7, 2018 8:55:45 GMT -6
Had a kid 5-7 185 (not a "skilled" player) who was convinced we were not using his talents correctly. After his sophomore year he went to a Nike combine in Detroit area. Came back with a whole new outlook on the world of HS football. However, is this the usual outcome? As I mentioned, I bet this thread has many similarities beneath the surface to the one on narcissistic coaches when it comes to the human brain, its ability to process information and see things.
|
|
|
Post by blb on Oct 7, 2018 9:06:09 GMT -6
Had a kid 5-7 185 (not a "skilled" player) who was convinced we were not using his talents correctly. After his sophomore year he went to a Nike combine in Detroit area. Came back with a whole new outlook on the world of HS football. However, is this the usual outcome?
I wouldn't know if it is the "usual outcome."
At the schools I coached we had very few kids interested enough in football beyond HS to attend either "combines" or "tryout camps" at colleges.
Simply relaying a personal experience. OP asked for "thoughts."
|
|
|
Post by coachd5085 on Oct 7, 2018 9:15:03 GMT -6
However, is this the usual outcome?
I wouldn't know if it is the "usual outcome."
At the schools I coached we had very few kids interested enough in football beyond HS to attend either "combines" or "tryout camps" at colleges.
Simply relaying a personal experience. OP asked for "thoughts."
Fair enough. I just think this thread, and the "excuses for quitting thread" seem to bring forth several common traits--lack of confidence being one of them (quitting this year to work hard for next year) , lack of self actualization being another.
|
|
|
Post by planck on Oct 7, 2018 9:22:44 GMT -6
I dunno, I think it's really common for kids to have absolutely no perspective on how good they are, especially if they're not at either 1) a program full of studs or 2) a program that succeeds above their athletic level, and kids see talent first hand. A kid who is at a middling program and watches pro football all the time might think this {censored} looks easy and he has it all figured out, because he never get confronted with reality (it's all somebody else's fault that I'm not peyton breeze brady junior).
|
|
|
Post by badtotheflexbone on Oct 7, 2018 12:56:19 GMT -6
We had a kid quit on the day of our last game. He'd missed two days of practice so that he could work as a costumed character at a haunted house. During our walk-through on Thursday when he wasn't starting the other linemen joked on him so he got pi$$ed. After school on game day as he was getting on the school bus he tossed his jersey to another player to turn in. A month later his mother complained that we weren't helping with his college recruiting. Maybe mother had a point? You could have sent film of him working in a costume character for mascot purposes at the next level!?
|
|
|
Post by badtotheflexbone on Oct 7, 2018 13:14:26 GMT -6
Graduate school statistics class really helped hammer something home in my head. We are all nothing but data in a system. If you are ever aware enough to compare your own individual perspective on life to the ENTIRE system, your perspective becomes minuscule.
Example of uninformed person: I am starting QB at a small HS in remote town. I must be the sh*t!
A more informed perspective might be, would I still be the starter if we somehow combined all the teams in our area, region, state? (essentially what college recruiting is and what most kids/parents don't comprehend)
Although it was a tough pill to swallow that I wasn't as "special" as I thought, it was humbling to know that I don't have to experience things firsthand because many others have done so before me and you can learn from it (this forum is a perfect example of this)
I am all for the "You are a special unique amazing person" at a young age but this is what it can lead to.
EDIT: I don't even know if what I wrote made any sense, but hey it did to me!
|
|
|
Post by Sonofahitch on Oct 11, 2018 18:39:17 GMT -6
An older coach who I really respected used to tell backups in film, "Johnny, you see what Jimmy (the starter) did there? You don't do that. That's why Jimmy plays and you don't." I've never had the stones to be that bold, but sometimes I think back on that old coach and remind myself to be blunt with the kids. Football seems like the last place kids get honest feedback.
Mike Greenberg once called sports "the last great meritocracy." I think he was right.
|
|