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Post by coachks on Aug 7, 2018 5:56:30 GMT -6
This CYA from the state association is getting out of hand. We have a 5 day acclimation period where we are not allowed any body to body contact. Monday through Friday. No contact. 2 days helmets, 2 days shells, 1 day full dressed but cant hit. We can practice with shells all summer, but then have to revert back to helmets only, then shells again.
Now that we can hit and have gear, we are forced inside because of the wet bulb. So we had 5 days to acclimate to the heat, but now cant practice in it anyway. That makes sense. Wednesday we have a scrimmage. Scrimmages and games are not subject to the wet bulb so we will scrimmage at 530 in the evening. It will be hot and we cant even get the kids used to playing and banging in the heat before we scrimmage 3 other schools.
For all the 4 hour workshops and online programs we take about making the game safer and learning technique to get the head out of contact we cant practice doing it. I like the progressions and the drills, but the first time we get to go live will be against other teams in a scrimmage setting where we cant control the tempo. The kids arent going to use great technique in their first live action - thsts why we need to practice in a controlled atmosphere.
None of these rules are helping the kids or safety. Im all for some common sense restrictions (mandatory water breaks, limited time in full gear per day). But the real changes would hurt the state associations bottom line - push the season back 2 weeks so we arent playing games in August. We play an 11 game season with a bye week so that the state can have an endowment game (IE gate money to state association). Eliminate that game and you can play 10 games in 10 weeks and you dont have to practice the first week of August anymore.
Instead, we will preach safety, but make it difficult to teach. We will make it impossible to practice in the heat, but let the kids plat the game in the heat. But hey, nobody can sue the state because they have covered themselves.
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Post by rudyrude9 on Aug 7, 2018 7:10:53 GMT -6
What is the "wet bulb?"
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Post by blb on Aug 7, 2018 7:15:21 GMT -6
Instrument trainers use to measure humidity-heat index.
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Post by newt21 on Aug 7, 2018 13:58:07 GMT -6
I feel the same way, our first game of the season is on day 10 of the season, so 9 practices before a live game, not scrimmage, game. It's one week earlier than years past, it was on day 15 last year. They just want to provide lip service to being all about safety, but no real action to keep the kids safe outside of the same online courses we've taken for the past 8 years.
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neohio
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Post by neohio on Aug 7, 2018 17:45:59 GMT -6
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"Safety"
Aug 8, 2018 7:23:13 GMT -6
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Post by 3rdandlong on Aug 8, 2018 7:23:13 GMT -6
Yup. In California the season is moved up so that the big dogs can play in a state champion playoff and state champion game.
So it used to be a privilege to practice on Thanksgiving. It means you were in you sections second round of the playoffs. Now you have to be in your sections championship game in order to practice on Thanksgiving.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 8, 2018 18:03:11 GMT -6
This CYA from the state association is getting out of hand. We have a 5 day acclimation period where we are not allowed any body to body contact. Monday through Friday. No contact. 2 days helmets, 2 days shells, 1 day full dressed but cant hit. We can practice with shells all summer, but then have to revert back to helmets only, then shells again. Now that we can hit and have gear, we are forced inside because of the wet bulb. So we had 5 days to acclimate to the heat, but now cant practice in it anyway. That makes sense. Wednesday we have a scrimmage. Scrimmages and games are not subject to the wet bulb so we will scrimmage at 530 in the evening. It will be hot and we cant even get the kids used to playing and banging in the heat before we scrimmage 3 other schools. For all the 4 hour workshops and online programs we take about making the game safer and learning technique to get the head out of contact we cant practice doing it. I like the progressions and the drills, but the first time we get to go live will be against other teams in a scrimmage setting where we cant control the tempo. The kids arent going to use great technique in their first live action - thsts why we need to practice in a controlled atmosphere. None of these rules are helping the kids or safety. Im all for some common sense restrictions (mandatory water breaks, limited time in full gear per day). But the real changes would hurt the state associations bottom line - push the season back 2 weeks so we arent playing games in August. We play an 11 game season with a bye week so that the state can have an endowment game (IE gate money to state association). Eliminate that game and you can play 10 games in 10 weeks and you dont have to practice the first week of August anymore. Instead, we will preach safety, but make it difficult to teach. We will make it impossible to practice in the heat, but let the kids plat the game in the heat. But hey, nobody can sue the state because they have covered themselves. Extremely well written, valid, and strong points. These things have no place in the world of State athletic associations, or State level/District level educational policy. |
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Post by wingtol on Aug 8, 2018 18:47:00 GMT -6
We lost a week of full pads practice and now have a "heat" week in shells, after being allowed to workout in the summer in helmets with bags, so now we have a week of full pads and one scrimmage before our first game as they pushed that state games back a week. They used to be the week before Christmas, which is a long season but realistically only effects like 5% of the teams in the state any ways. Play our first game before school starts now.
And on top of that had the 8 hour fundamentals of coaching online class to do, what an eye opener after 20 years of coaching....
Of course the state association mandates the class and of course charges for it. If our district didn't cover the cost I may not have coached just out of spite. Think it was over a 100 bucks.
People are losing their minds all over the country it seems.
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Post by klaby on Aug 9, 2018 6:17:52 GMT -6
The way I see this is this is the fault of the ADs. The ADs have the loudest voice with the state governing bodies. The problem is they don't speak up, they don't talk to their coaches enough. They just nod and leave the meetings. the ADs need to speak up about this stupid sh&t
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Post by blb on Aug 9, 2018 6:41:08 GMT -6
The way I see this is this is the fault of the ADs. The ADs have the loudest voice with the state governing bodies. The problem is they don't speak up, they don't talk to their coaches enough. They just nod and leave the meetings. the ADs need to speak up about this stupid sh&t
In our state the governing body (Representative Council) will sometimes survey superintendents, principals, and ADs before voting on new rules-policies.
Often that will be like when a school administration has made up its mind what they're going to do but asks teachers what they think so latter can feel like they had "input" into the decision.
The organization that could have the "loudest voice" on issues such as in this thread would be our state HS Football Coaches' Association.
However would probably be pretty bad PR for them to come out against procedures supposedly enacted in the name of safety.
Like a politician saying he's against motherhood and apple pie.
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