els36
Sophomore Member
Posts: 243
|
Post by els36 on Jul 20, 2018 22:27:49 GMT -6
Going into my 2nd year at a problem that has struggled in the past alot. We have some players that have fallen off and have left the team. Some did not like the expectations such as being at practice/camp. Had 1 player, who would have been good, leave cause he was not votes team captain (players vote on captains). Anyone else go through this when trying to get a program back on track?
|
|
els36
Sophomore Member
Posts: 243
|
Post by els36 on Jul 20, 2018 22:28:11 GMT -6
*program
|
|
els36
Sophomore Member
Posts: 243
|
Post by els36 on Jul 20, 2018 22:49:19 GMT -6
Going into my 2nd year at a problem that has struggled in the past alot. We have some players that have fallen off and have left the team. Some did not like the expectations such as being at practice/camp. Had 1 player, who would have been good, leave cause he was not votes team captain (players vote on captains). Anyone else go through this when trying to get a program back on track? Yup! My boss let em walk and he is first one to complain about kids. I use to be all for cutting kids until this. It is frustrating. It seems at times, we are our own worst enemy. You guys basically let them walk or try to talk them into staying? I have tried to explain explaining why the expectations are in place as a way to try and keep them.
|
|
|
Post by larrymoe on Jul 21, 2018 6:33:54 GMT -6
I have never had a kid who wanted to quit, but was talked back into coming back, ever be anything but a detriment to the team when the going got tough. If they quit now, they'll quit when their back is against the wall later.
|
|
|
Post by bigmoot on Jul 21, 2018 6:36:13 GMT -6
I have never had a kid who wanted to quit, but was talked back into coming back, ever be anything but a detriment to the team when the going got tough. If they quit now, they'll quit when their back is against the wall later. I agree. As much as I hate to lose a kid, if their heart isn't in it they need to go somewhere else.
|
|
|
Post by fantom on Jul 21, 2018 6:40:57 GMT -6
Going into my 2nd year at a problem that has struggled in the past alot. We have some players that have fallen off and have left the team. Some did not like the expectations such as being at practice/camp. Had 1 player, who would have been good, leave cause he was not votes team captain (players vote on captains). Anyone else go through this when trying to get a program back on track? It's normal.
|
|
|
Post by bigmoot on Jul 21, 2018 9:30:39 GMT -6
Has anyone ever had issues like these after you think you have the program going in the right directions?
|
|
|
Post by blb on Jul 21, 2018 10:36:23 GMT -6
Has anyone ever had issues like these after you think you have the program going in the right directions?
Yes.
Every class that comes through is different.
Some of them have decided early on they're not good at Football so why bother trying to work so hard and still lose?
|
|
|
Post by option1st on Jul 21, 2018 11:06:25 GMT -6
I'm at a historically strong football program, great history, good athletes.
However, we got reclassified years back into murderers row as far as district goes. We are a rural community and we are taking two hours bus rides to get our asses kicked by private/big city schools (they are all within 45 minutes of each other). We got screwed in the reclassification, they needed an outside team to add in with the district. Unfortunately that happened to be us. We haven't won a district game in the past three years.
As you can imagine, this has really hurt team morale, our numbers are down, the program is suffering. So I know what you are talking about. We struggle with kids missing practice (mainly in summer) and kids not giving great effort.
With that said, we were reclassified last year and will go back to our historical district which is comprised of teams/communities of similar make up and much more local. We should immediately become a head contender.
So although things aren't always great, keep doing what you love, keep chugging ahead. I just keep envisioning where we are going to be in 2-3 years. Keep your eyes on that.
|
|
|
Post by option1st on Jul 21, 2018 11:09:20 GMT -6
I'm at a historically strong football program, great history, good athletes, good community support.
However, we got reclassified years back into murderers row as far as district goes. We are a rural community and we are taking two hours bus rides to get our asses kicked by private/city schools (they are all within 45 minutes of each other). We got screwed in the reclassification, they needed an outside team to add in with the district. Unfortunately that happened to be us. We haven't won a district game in the past three years.
As you can imagine, this has really hurt team morale, our numbers are down, the program is suffering. So I know what you are talking about. We struggle with kids missing practice (mainly in summer) and kids not giving great effort.
With that said, we were reclassified last year and will go back to our historical district which is comprised of teams/communities of similar make up and much more local. We should immediately become a head contender.
So although things aren't always great, keep doing what you love, keep chugging ahead. I just keep envisioning where we are going to be in 2-3 years. Keep your eyes on that. It'll be worth it.
|
|
|
Post by lilbuck1103 on Jul 21, 2018 11:27:28 GMT -6
Best thing in my opinion coaches can do is dedicated energy, relationships, etc. to the kids that are there and doing what is needed to be successful. I believe it sends the wrong message to those kids when coaches are dedicating time and energy to kids who aren't there or not want to be there. Ruins chemistry with your team in my opinion.
|
|
|
Post by 50slantstrong on Jul 21, 2018 11:46:37 GMT -6
Just keep coaching the kids you got. Embrace the ones that work hard and create the best relationship you can with your incoming freshmen.
Keep moving forward and don’t even acknowledge the quitters in front of your kids.
|
|
|
Post by bigmoot on Jul 21, 2018 13:48:17 GMT -6
Has anyone ever had issues like these after you think you have the program going in the right directions? Sorry to quote myself, continuing with more detail. Our 2nd spring, we had 45 players out of 115 boys in school. Most in over a decade. Had a great spring...had a great scrimmage against cross county rival that is 3x or size. Summer starts and... attendance is pitiful...several kids dont come back. Finished last year with 32 guys. Hell if I know.
|
|
|
Post by blb on Jul 21, 2018 13:55:47 GMT -6
Has anyone ever had issues like these after you think you have the program going in the right directions? Sorry to quote myself, continuing with more detail. Our 2nd spring, we had 45 players out of 115 boys in school. Most in over a decade. Had a great spring...had a great scrimmage against cross county rival that is 3x or size. Summer starts and... attendance is pitiful...several kids dont come back. Finished last year with 32 guys. Hell if I know.
Sounds like you need to look at your Summer expectations and see if there is a way you can still get ready for the competitive season without running kids off.
You can't coach players who aren't there.
|
|
|
Post by bigmoot on Jul 21, 2018 17:06:30 GMT -6
It's not summer expectations or is running kids off. Our upcoming junior and sophomore classes aren't worth crap as a whole. Getting them to lift is like pulling teeth, even during the school year. Baseball and basketball are having similar issues.
My thought: when you are so small you depend on each kid. No one is expendable. And when you are small and have a couple of crap classes in a row, you're screwed.
|
|