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Post by morris on Jul 8, 2018 11:31:46 GMT -6
These questions are for game fields
1) gallon buckets or cans? Which do you use? Is one faster and or easier? We can do either but the bucket machine clogs. I don’t think it’s been taken care of very well.
2) field marking kits/methods. Best ones? I’ve seen the ones you put the black spikes in the ground. I also saw a school with premise strings. Across the back of the end zones the line was marked for hash and numbers. I’ve never seen those for sale.
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Post by realdawg on Jul 8, 2018 12:35:47 GMT -6
For painting the game field, buckets all day. Much easier and stripes look better. Just be careful not to get to drip the overspray all over the field. If the machine clogs you should be able to clean it out by running water through the line and pumping it out. Only thing that sucks about the machine is cleaning it after you use it.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Jul 8, 2018 12:48:17 GMT -6
I’m assuming your using a gator?
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Post by silkyice on Jul 8, 2018 12:57:59 GMT -6
Machine is better. The key is cleaning it thoroughly when done.
The marking kits are great. But can be very difficult to hammer in the ground. If tough, wait for a huge rain storm and go immediately after to hammer in wet ground.
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Post by larrymoe on Jul 8, 2018 13:00:07 GMT -6
Buckets all day, every day. For the one I used for 7 years to stripe the practice field, the only clean up I would do was stick a bucket of water in place of the paint and spray until the water was spraying out clear from the nozzle and then put it up. Next time out, just switch out the water bucket with a paint one and get to work. Only had a problem with it once in that time and that was an engine deal. It also used 5 gallon buckets.
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Post by CS on Jul 8, 2018 13:11:55 GMT -6
These questions are for game fields 1) gallon buckets or cans? Which do you use? Is one faster and or easier? We can do either but the bucket machine clogs. I don’t think it’s been taken care of very well. 2) field marking kits/methods. Best ones? I’ve seen the ones you put the black spikes in the ground. I also saw a school with premise strings. Across the back of the end zones the line was marked for hash and numbers. I’ve never seen those for sale. Those field marking kits are great! Its hard work up front but after that it makes marking the field so much faster. I never used a bucket machine so I can't comment on that |
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Post by freezeoption on Jul 8, 2018 15:00:36 GMT -6
buckets, if it clogs clean out the filter, might have to clean line, sometimes I would add a little water to the paint to thin it out if it clogged a lot, our new coaches screwed ours up, will see how long they can handle using that machine, I bet they will be back on the can machine, we had field lining numbers and hash, looked like they were made of siding vinyl, I have had numbers and hash made out of plywood, heavy as hell, and tarps, had to lay them flat and didn't last more than a couple of seasons, very time consuming but I got the art class to cut them out and design the field
I was also going to add, get one of those field marking kits that you can drive into the ground, did that four years ago, has saved tons of time, no place I ever went to wanted to buy that, but I got these guys to do that,
my first job out of college got a hfc in the mtns of Idaho, they gave me two cases of paint in cans for each home game, I did every 5 yds going out from the end zone till I got to the 20, then painted every ten till the next 20 to save on paint
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Post by larrymoe on Jul 8, 2018 16:08:24 GMT -6
I should also add that if you can't afford the kits you drive into the ground, I've seen people Roundup the end zone corners and the 5 yd markers on the sidelines so it's easier to line up the string.
I never did it, but it seemed like a good idea. I don't really know why I didn't in the end zones. Would have made getting it set up the next summer a lot easier.
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 8, 2018 16:12:04 GMT -6
Buckets all day.
Run water through the machine after every use. If it has been neglected you will probably have to do some maintenance and snake the lines. Takes some time but it is worth it. Honestly, I do not feel like doing the cans is all that much faster. You run out of paint quicker, it looks so much worst and is much more expensive.
Never used the field marking kit, but I know the product. I always just strung out a new field every week. After the initial layout, making sure everything is square, it is more or less, just placing the lines on top of the old lines.
I don't paint the fields anymore, but had a good decade where that was my go to role. It takes time to understand your machine and to know what you can and can't get away with (Guesstimating the restriction line, painting over an old line without stringing it out and how many times you can do that before it slowly starts to warp from its original position).
Who ever is painting your field, if they do not have experience, get them doing it now, so come August they are competent and you will not have to have an embarrassing explanation with the officials why the 50 yard line looks like the Rio Grande.
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Post by codeblue on Jul 9, 2018 14:46:23 GMT -6
Buckets. Our paint machine clogs, but I think it's cause we don't mix the paint well enough. We use a 2:1 ratio (make 2 buckets out of 1 bucket of paint). Other places I have been have used 4:1 ratio and the lines were still bright; in fact, our paint salesman recommended 4:1. We have the black markers down on our field. And one of our coaches used the tops of the aerosol cans buried down for the numbers, hashes, coach's box, etc. Thought that was clever. He just sprayed the tops safety orange so it was easier to find.
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 9, 2018 18:33:33 GMT -6
Buckets. Our paint machine clogs, but I think it's cause we don't mix the paint well enough. We use a 2:1 ratio (make 2 buckets out of 1 bucket of paint). Other places I have been have used 4:1 ratio and the lines were still bright; in fact, our paint salesman recommended 4:1. We have the black markers down on our field. And one of our coaches used the tops of the aerosol cans buried down for the numbers, hashes, coach's box, etc. Thought that was clever. He just sprayed the tops safety orange so it was easier to find. In my experience, you may be able to do 4:1 but that field is going to be very faded by the end of the week. Going to make re-striping difficult. I always used 2:1. If you machine was anything like ours it is a fickle beast. So I am not going to assume what I did would work for you. But anytime I had clogging issues it was either, old paint left in the line, The entire thing needed to be snaked and cleaned or Old Paint. If the paint was over a year old it starts to clump up and just becomes a real PITA |
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Post by vanden48 on Jul 16, 2018 12:27:25 GMT -6
When I had to pain our field, and I wanted it to look nice with the numbers and hashmarks and endzone decoration, it would take me 8-12 hours with the spray paint cans. With the machine, it cut it down to 2-4 hours. Multiple colors took longer. Get Stencils for the numbers and hash. Or you can make your own, which I did. I wen to Home depot and purchased 7 sheets of 1/8" masonite and used a projector and my computer to outline the G and 0-5. Thursdays or Fridays my 7th or 8th grade science class had a field day to the football field to study grass and help me paint numbers. Also had somebody make a cutout of the mascot and we used that stencil to decorate the field a variety of ways. I'm a firm believer that if you take pride in making your field look nice, the players and community will take pride in the program. DON'T HALF A$$ THE FIELD.
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 16, 2018 14:11:34 GMT -6
How much coverage do you get out of the bulk machine? We've got an ancient one I'm gonna work with this year and see if it's worth using. If you cut it at 2:1, how many gallons of paint would you need for all the lines?
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 16, 2018 19:25:26 GMT -6
How much coverage do you get out of the bulk machine? We've got an ancient one I'm gonna work with this year and see if it's worth using. If you cut it at 2:1, how many gallons of paint would you need for all the lines? Depends on how fast you are moving. If you go really slow obviously you are spraying more paint on the ground. Typically It took me about 25-30 gallons of mixed paint to do the while lines. Ours held 10 Gallons at a time. Got the outline and normally to the 5 to 15 yard line. Next 10 gallons got me close to the other end. Normally about the 20 yard line. Finished the stripes and did the hashes. I normally did the Numbers with Aerosol as using the dilute can be a bit of a paint with the stencils we have. Aerosol does not drip as much. If you have to do the restrictor lines and coaches box that will add another 5-10 Gallons |
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 17, 2018 5:51:47 GMT -6
Depends on how fast you are moving. If you go really slow obviously you are spraying more paint on the ground. Typically It took me about 25-30 gallons of mixed paint to do the while lines. Ours held 10 Gallons at a time. Got the outline and normally to the 5 to 15 yard line. Next 10 gallons got me close to the other end. Normally about the 20 yard line. Finished the stripes and did the hashes. I normally did the Numbers with Aerosol as using the dilute can be a bit of a paint with the stencils we have. Aerosol does not drip as much. If you have to do the restrictor lines and coaches box that will add another 5-10 Gallons Thanks. So that would be 12-15 gallons of paint mixed 2:1? Ours has a wand attached to it and I thought it might be easier to do numbers with, but maybe not. |
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Post by freezeoption on Jul 17, 2018 12:32:27 GMT -6
Numbers r easier with the wand but it depends on your stencils. You need to have a empty bucket to pour whatever way your going to mix your paint. I usually poured about half of a bucket into a extra bucket and put water in paint bucket. Stirred up bucket. Practice sprayed before I went on field. Don't fill up paint bucket completely half with water you want to thin it but not much. You will have to play around with it.
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Post by freezeoption on Jul 17, 2018 12:33:03 GMT -6
Numbers r easier with the wand but it depends on your stencils. You need to have a empty bucket to pour whatever way your going to mix your paint. I usually poured about half of a bucket into a extra bucket and put water in paint bucket. Stirred up bucket. Practice sprayed before I went on field. Don't fill up paint bucket completely half with water you want to thin it but not much. You will have to play around with it.
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Post by Hitch & Pitch on Jul 17, 2018 12:44:42 GMT -6
How about squaring your field? anybody have creative ways, maybe tools without having to rely on mathematical equations. I have a starting line, the left field line on our baseball field.
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 17, 2018 13:26:39 GMT -6
vanden48 How did the masonite hold up for the stencils? That stuff seems sketchy to me when it starts getting wet.
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 17, 2018 13:37:03 GMT -6
Depends on how fast you are moving. If you go really slow obviously you are spraying more paint on the ground. Typically It took me about 25-30 gallons of mixed paint to do the while lines. Ours held 10 Gallons at a time. Got the outline and normally to the 5 to 15 yard line. Next 10 gallons got me close to the other end. Normally about the 20 yard line. Finished the stripes and did the hashes. I normally did the Numbers with Aerosol as using the dilute can be a bit of a paint with the stencils we have. Aerosol does not drip as much. If you have to do the restrictor lines and coaches box that will add another 5-10 Gallons Thanks. So that would be 12-15 gallons of paint mixed 2:1? Ours has a wand attached to it and I thought it might be easier to do numbers with, but maybe not. Yup, So I would use either 2-3 of the 5 Gallon Buckets in our big mixer we have. With the stencils we had, aerosol all the way. That being said, I would normally skip using the stencils if I felt the numbers were visible enough. So I could use the wand then, it was about the same amount of time, dont think it was all that much quicker or slower. Felt I had better control with the aerosol so I normally fell back on that. But if the numbers started to get a little distorted, I did not like the way it looked or we just got a lot of rain I would drag the stencils back out. Depends on your machine really, I would give it a whirl with the wand, but be cautious when using stencils, like I said, the paint tends to not dry as quickly as aerosol so it will drip as you are moving it to the other section of the field. |
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Post by macdiiddy on Jul 17, 2018 13:43:01 GMT -6
How about squaring your field? anybody have creative ways, maybe tools without having to rely on mathematical equations. I have a starting line, the left field line on our baseball field. There is a mathematical formula it is called the 3-4-5 rule www.wikihow.com/Use-the-3-4-5-Rule-to-Build-Square-CornersSo you could do that to check your corners I typically laid out my rectangle. Found the middle point of the two back lines. Lined them up with the center of the goal post. Then laid some lines out on the 50, 30, and 10 yard lines. This would tell me if my lines were bowing in or out and I would just tweak the corners and shake out the sideline until I was happy. The endline is suppose to fit right under the cross beam of the goal post so I would use that to make sure those lines were straight. |
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Post by vanden48 on Jul 18, 2018 12:26:05 GMT -6
vanden48 How did the masonite hold up for the stencils? That stuff seems sketchy to me when it starts getting wet. It held up great. The previous year we had smaller numbers 3' tall I think, and they were heavy and cumbersome to move around, for small numbers. The full 8' sheets of Masonite gave me full size numbers and they were light and manageable to move around. I used my CPU and a projector to trace out the number font I wanted. Stood them up in my garage, projected the numbers on it. Used my jigsaw to cut it out. Ordered the hash stencils. |
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