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Post by kahnfoo44 on Jun 30, 2018 14:36:31 GMT -6
We need some grind. I am trying to stay relaxed. This is my first year with this team...have spent the last 4 months building relationships with the athletes. While we have almost double the #'s of last season. (committed on paper) I have not seen it translate to the weight room. Sounds like traditionally the athletes don't show up until August. No weight room culture what so ever. While I am happy that there are more "saying" they are going to play I am not happy with the no shows. It is a small school and this is my first year with them but man it kills me to wait until August to see what type of team I have.
Even looking at scaling back weight room times. Possibly going to 2 days a week Instead of offering it 4.
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Post by chi5hi on Jun 30, 2018 17:12:22 GMT -6
We need some grind. I am trying to stay relaxed. This is my first year with this team...have spent the last 4 months building relationships with the athletes. While we have almost double the #'s of last season. (committed on paper) I have not seen it translate to the weight room. Sounds like traditionally the athletes don't show up until August. No weight room culture what so ever. While I am happy that there are more "saying" they are going to play I am not happy with the no shows. It is a small school and this is my first year with them but man it kills me to wait until August to see what type of team I have. Even looking at scaling back weight room times. Possibly going to 2 days a week Instead of offering it 4. This kind of story is really sad and hard to take. I can't imagine the problem this must be. 4 years ago, I was on Monday morning weight room duty, my turn...but was about 20 minutes late. The guys were sitting around outside because there was no one to unlock the room. I kidded the guys saying something like...in my day (kidding) we would have found a way in. Y'know...coach macho speak. When I arrived the for a Saturday duty, some time later...a little bit late again, the guys had torn off the door to the weight room and were inside lifting. They actually ripped the door off the hinges! Well...I paid the 420 dollars to fix the dam door, but haven't said anything even close to that again. No more boasts! I'm really sorry you're having that problem, but really glad to have the situation I'm in. I just don't know why there are different cultures to deal with, and on so many levels. I have to commend those coaches who have to work through this. I'm at a private school, the students have to take an entrance exam to get here. If any kid falls below a "C" in any one class, he's suspended from the team until the grade is raised. The bottom line is, I guess, they're here because they want to be, and if they want to stay here, they perform. I have it pretty easy, I only have to coach. Another great thing I've noticed...most of the kids have both Mom and Dad at home. |
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Post by newt21 on Jun 30, 2018 18:49:32 GMT -6
what incentives do you offer for attendance? Do you have competitive games at any point during or after workouts? I'd look into some of this before scaling back when the weight room is open. What do the kids say about workouts and/or other kids attendance?
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Post by KYCoach2331 on Jun 30, 2018 18:58:55 GMT -6
Go about it as if they’re not there. Reward the ones who come over those who don’t with things like free gear, first selection at equipment, numbers, lockers, etc.
Get on social media and promote the kids who come!
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Post by silkyice on Jun 30, 2018 20:17:49 GMT -6
The real solution is results.
Kids love results.
When their maxes go up, vertical goes up, 40 and 5/10/5 go down, you have them hooked.
It doesn’t take much!! We do two days a week. 5 lifts. 2 sets each (heck one lift can only be one set). Key is work hard and work consistently.
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Post by silkyice on Jun 30, 2018 20:25:16 GMT -6
Making these percentages up, but you will get the idea.
10% of the kids will work hard and buy in no matter what. A’s
15% want to work if you can show them or make them. B’s
50% you can influence one way or the other - average kid. C’s
15% don’t want to work, but might with the right motovation. D’s
10% won’t work just about no matter what. F’s
Get the A’s and B’s going! Influence the C’s!
Hopefully the D’s will see what is going on and join in.
Forget the F’s!
Turn the A’s into A+. B’s into A’s. C’s into B+’s and D’s into C+.
They only way to turn an average group into a great team is this!!
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Post by coachphillip on Jun 30, 2018 21:01:53 GMT -6
Absolutely agree with results. At the end of the day, if you show them what the weight room can do for them, it'll start to sink in. It's a process for sure though.
Don't know who it was on here, maybe BDud, but a coach said "It's my job to get them physically impressive enough to where a girl kisses their bicep. They'll have perfect attendance for the rest of their lives after that!"
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Post by CS on Jul 1, 2018 7:27:38 GMT -6
We need some grind. I am trying to stay relaxed. This is my first year with this team...have spent the last 4 months building relationships with the athletes. While we have almost double the #'s of last season. (committed on paper) I have not seen it translate to the weight room. Sounds like traditionally the athletes don't show up until August. No weight room culture what so ever. While I am happy that there are more "saying" they are going to play I am not happy with the no shows. It is a small school and this is my first year with them but man it kills me to wait until August to see what type of team I have. Even looking at scaling back weight room times. Possibly going to 2 days a week Instead of offering it 4. Don’t freak out, you have been there for 4 months. Workout the ones who show up and continue to build relationships with them. Kids are your greatest resource for getting more to come out. High school recruiting goes through the kids and anyone who says otherwise is clueless. When you are at a small school you are at the mercy of the players to some degree so you need to be patient and not chase any away |
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Post by dubber on Jul 1, 2018 10:56:14 GMT -6
If this is year one, don’t sweat it.
Get the numbers up and start teaching accountability in season.....then build off that into the offseason.
This is the sole purpose our jv serves......get the kids out, let them play, and then try to sell them on the weight room.
I prefer this approach to the one where you tell a 14 year old kid to hit the bricks because he still likes to fish over lift weights.
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 1, 2018 16:12:30 GMT -6
We need some grind. I am trying to stay relaxed. This is my first year with this team...have spent the last 4 months building relationships with the athletes. While we have almost double the #'s of last season. (committed on paper) I have not seen it translate to the weight room. Sounds like traditionally the athletes don't show up until August. No weight room culture what so ever. While I am happy that there are more "saying" they are going to play I am not happy with the no shows. It is a small school and this is my first year with them but man it kills me to wait until August to see what type of team I have. Even looking at scaling back weight room times. Possibly going to 2 days a week Instead of offering it 4. Year 1, 4 months in, you're fine. I mean, it's not going to be what you'd like come gameday but you're setting up the expectations for what the future will hold. One year turnarounds are fluky and rare and often times the product of some really lousy coaching that was screwing up an otherwise solid situation. I'll point to the pre-Harbaugh 49ers as such an example, there was a decent roster (especially on D) and some awful coaching. Bring in great coaching (especially on D) and there's a pretty big bounce back on the field. Celebrate and reward the kids who show up, continue to build as you go. Like silkyice said, don't chase the bottom 1/4 of your roster or worry too much about their attendance. If they're good enough to show up and ball out, cool, but that will be increasingly rare as your time there progresses and the kids who are getting strong start to get REALLY strong. |
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Post by kahnfoo44 on Jul 1, 2018 17:51:23 GMT -6
Don’t freak out, you have been there for 4 months. Workout the ones who show up and continue to build relationships with them. Kids are your greatest resource for getting more to come out.
High school recruiting goes through the kids and anyone who says otherwise is clueless. When you are at a small school you are at the mercy of the players to some degree so you need to be patient and not chase any away[/quote]
I absolutely am absolutely at the mercy of the kids. (most still playing baseball) I have been laid back in my interaction with them not harassing to much. I know to take it slow...just killin me though. Had to speak with a new assistant about building relationships first and getting them out then slowly tightening the screws and teaching our expectations. Order #1 is to raise #'s and make football exciting again.
Hardest part is not knowing the composition of the team...until the first week of practice.
Will be rewarding those that show with new swag... Also, had informed the team that those that put in time get first choice of gear/#. we will see how that goes. Tradition has been senior first then junior and down the line.
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Post by center on Jul 1, 2018 18:53:14 GMT -6
We need some grind. I am trying to stay relaxed. This is my first year with this team...have spent the last 4 months building relationships with the athletes. While we have almost double the #'s of last season. (committed on paper) I have not seen it translate to the weight room. Sounds like traditionally the athletes don't show up until August. No weight room culture what so ever. While I am happy that there are more "saying" they are going to play I am not happy with the no shows. It is a small school and this is my first year with them but man it kills me to wait until August to see what type of team I have. Even looking at scaling back weight room times. Possibly going to 2 days a week Instead of offering it 4. See how your first season goes. Then see what the kids immediate response is to the season. Sometimes a group will go through the first year, take a few lumps, and then are ready to hit the weight room because now they know. |
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Post by CS on Jul 1, 2018 19:27:33 GMT -6
Don’t freak out, you have been there for 4 months. Workout the ones who show up and continue to build relationships with them. Kids are your greatest resource for getting more to come out. High school recruiting goes through the kids and anyone who says otherwise is clueless. When you are at a small school you are at the mercy of the players to some degree so you need to be patient and not chase any away I absolutely am absolutely at the mercy of the kids. (most still playing baseball) I have been laid back in my interaction with them not harassing to much. I know to take it slow...just killin me though. Had to speak with a new assistant about building relationships first and getting them out then slowly tightening the screws and teaching our expectations. Order #1 is to raise #'s and make football exciting again. Hardest part is not knowing the composition of the team...until the first week of practice. Will be rewarding those that show with new swag... Also, had informed the team that those that put in time get first choice of gear/#. we will see how that goes. Tradition has been senior first then junior and down the line. [/quote] The numbers are picked before anyone goes to you. It doesn’t matter how many lifts the kids get in Edit: the jersey numbers are picked |
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