riggsbm
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Post by riggsbm on May 30, 2018 5:46:45 GMT -6
Long story short, my administration wont get much praise from me.
I've lost half my staff and dont forsee anyone being replaced. The teaching jobs are being used for other things my admin feels are more important.
How do I coach a varsity and jv team with myself+4 assistants? This spring we coached both sides of the ball but it caused my young kids to be in the back of huge indy lines and they didn't see much love in any team setting.
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Post by dubber on May 30, 2018 6:04:36 GMT -6
Long story short, my administration wont get much praise from me. I've lost half my staff and dont forsee anyone being replaced. The teaching jobs are being used for other things my admin feels are more important. How do I coach a varsity and jv team with myself+4 assistants? This spring we coached both sides of the ball but it caused my young kids to be in the back of huge indy lines and they didn't see much love in any team setting. How many on the roster? |
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Post by blb on May 30, 2018 6:15:02 GMT -6
How many paid positions do you have?
Can you get former players or other non-faculty coaches?
Actually your situation is very common around here. Had to do it myself a few years.
Three Varsity coaches and two JV coaches.
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Post by coachks on May 30, 2018 10:50:52 GMT -6
2 Offensive Coaches
2 Defensive Coaches
You stay with Varsity at all times.
Varsity does offense = You + 2 offensive assistants. JV is doing Defense with 2 assistants. JV will naturally be doing less true indy, more combined Indy (Tackling circuits, movement and bag drills) - Which is fine for JV football (learn how to shuffle and take on a block, learn how to pop and lock on a sled, even JV DB's can learn that skill).
Varsity does Defense = You + 2 defensive assistants. JV is working on offense with 2 assistants. Probably an OL coach + a Backs coach. You can do a little more indy stuff here.
When you break team you have 3 varsity coaches and 2 JV coaches. Same for special teams.
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Post by realdawg on May 30, 2018 11:12:30 GMT -6
We are in same boat. We currently have 3 coaches in building and outlook isn’t good for getting anymore. We have 2-3 community guys but not ready (some may never be) to have their own position yet. And they won’t be here this summer Bc of work. So the 3 of us basically have a group and a helper. Coach both sides this spring. Haven’t figured out what we will do in the season.
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Post by rudyrude9 on May 30, 2018 13:57:02 GMT -6
5 is enough
QB, RB, WR, TE, OL
CB, S, ILB, OLB, DL
Each guy has an Indy O and D position to coach. When you split to group and team stuff you have 3 guys with the varsity (HC, DC, OC) and 2 with the JV (JV OC, JV DC).
6 would make a world of difference. You could have 3 guys at each level. But 5 is doable for sure.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 30, 2018 14:23:00 GMT -6
Long story short, my administration wont get much praise from me. I've lost half my staff and dont forsee anyone being replaced. The teaching jobs are being used for other things my admin feels are more important. How do I coach a varsity and jv team with myself+4 assistants? This spring we coached both sides of the ball but it caused my young kids to be in the back of huge indy lines and they didn't see much love in any team setting. How many on the roster? That is the key. |
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Post by CanyonCoach on May 30, 2018 14:23:50 GMT -6
We had 6 coaches for 73 kids...3 freshmen coaches for 40 kids
Five would make life tougher but still doable...
We are moving to system in which all 9 paid coaches are practicing together for some major parts of practice:
1. HC/OC/QB
2. DC/DL/OL
3. STC/LB/TB
4. JVOC/OL/DE
5. JVDC/Safty/WR
6. JVSTC/F-Y/C
7. 9OC/C/WR
8. 9DC/DL/OL
9. 9STC/LB/RB
This way each level has a OL/DL, RB/LB, C/WR= and each position has a coach that is responsible for skill development and drill selection.
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Post by adawg2302 on May 30, 2018 18:39:14 GMT -6
We have 4 Varsity and 2 JV. About 70 - 80 in program total (roughly 50% split). No freshman team.
Varsity
1) QB / DB
2) WR / OLB
3) RB / ILB
4) OL / DL
JV
1) OL / DL
2) WR / RB (QB get warmed up then join in for 1/2 line, 7-on-7, etc) / ILB/OLB/DB (joint daily drills then mix of inside run / perimeter run).
JV is not ideal obviously but both coaches are good & committed so they make it work. At times, Varsity will pull some JV starters to get scout work, which allows other JV players reps. Also, depending on practice schedule, a Varsity coach will jump down to JV for some individual work.
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Post by carookie on May 30, 2018 18:52:25 GMT -6
If you have less than 50 or so (and players are going both ways anyways) then you should be fine. Frankly, I don't like working on staffs with too many coaches, they often end up being a jumbled mess with too many cooks spoiling the soup.
As long as you are not two platooning then no reason why your OL coach cant coach the DL, etc, etc.
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riggsbm
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Post by riggsbm on May 30, 2018 19:48:23 GMT -6
This is all great feedback and some of the ideas I've actually thought about.
I average about 85 players.
I hate not being able to coach up the jv as much. If I put them all on one side of the ball the groups are huge and the jv dont get as much love in group and team periods.
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Post by gators41 on May 31, 2018 6:01:30 GMT -6
This is all great feedback and some of the ideas I've actually thought about. I average about 85 players. I hate not being able to coach up the jv as much. If I put them all on one side of the ball the groups are huge and the jv dont get as much love in group and team periods. JV will just have to suffer. It will be ok. Find extra time for them to get in their work, either before or after practice. The best JV team I have ever been around didnt get to work together until after practice. |
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Post by CanyonCoach on May 31, 2018 8:03:14 GMT -6
This is all great feedback and some of the ideas I've actually thought about. I average about 85 players. I hate not being able to coach up the jv as much. If I put them all on one side of the ball the groups are huge and the jv dont get as much love in group and team periods. The head coach should worry about player development and moving from scheme to skill can help do that.
More practice time in small groups and less time in stand around sessions.
33 man drill or 44 man drill are great for team time-
33- 1 full offense and 2 full defenses- offense runs the same play against an odd front and an even front
44- 2 full offenses and 2 full defenses- same thing only fewer kids standing around.
Our goal is to call 10 plays (x2) in less than 20 minutes- What we want is our #1 O and #2 O to get what will be our base plays run against the 2 most frequently seen fronts.
Our secondary goal is to have 1 athlete at each position on O on the side so they can jump in and take over for a kid if we need to coach them up.
Third- we want our defensive players in this drill to fly around and be in position to make plays- Celebrate defensive effort- The reality is that if you are not on O #1 or #2 you aren't going to play much in varsity games so this is your time to make an impression.
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Post by MICoach on May 31, 2018 8:59:46 GMT -6
5 is enough QB, RB, WR, TE, OL CB, S, ILB, OLB, DL Each guy has an Indy O and D position to coach. When you split to group and team stuff you have 3 guys with the varsity (HC, DC, OC) and 2 with the JV (JV OC, JV DC). 6 would make a world of difference. You could have 3 guys at each level. But 5 is doable for sure. I think you can avoid the huge Indy lines by doing two separate drills/huddles as well. On one side you have Freshmen/JV together, on the other varsity, quickly alternating reps between each side. While one side does a rep the other "reloads" and position coaches are quick on their whistle to get the next rep in. The same for team. Varsity runs play A on the right hash, as soon as the whistle blows JV is on their way up to the line on the left hash to run the exact same play. JV gets to watch varsity do it "right" the first time. |
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Post by fkaboneyard on May 31, 2018 11:27:30 GMT -6
Decent volunteer coaches can help.
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