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Post by scarletandcream on May 5, 2018 10:09:14 GMT -6
Hello everyone, my question is simple. At a school with a limited football budget, what is an easy alternative to use for teaching pad level off the ball? I would even construct my own chutes if necessary if anyone has an easy design. Thanks in advance for your responses.
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Post by 50slantstrong on May 5, 2018 10:52:22 GMT -6
Kids hold step over bag at waist. Other kids are in front doing stance and start.
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Post by Defcord on May 5, 2018 11:37:33 GMT -6
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Post by agap on May 5, 2018 16:02:33 GMT -6
We had some football players make two chutes in shop class. We just had to pay for the materials. It cost less than $200 total.
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Post by utchuckd on May 6, 2018 6:15:19 GMT -6
HA! The first picture on that page with the saw horses is mine, put it together and posted it here my first year in youth ball a few years ago. There are some full pvc examples on there that look simple enough if you're just wanting to teach get offs. They won't stand up to a lot of impact if you want to do live drills with them. |
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Post by Chris Clement on May 6, 2018 6:20:02 GMT -6
Really cheap chute improvisation: stick out your arms. Make a longer chute by having someone else stand behind you and stick out their arms.
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Post by freezeoption on May 6, 2018 9:16:31 GMT -6
I have plans somewhere, went without middle legs so we could work scoop in the chutes, had the ag shop cut it so it would fit in the back of my truck, I have had it for 16 years now, best 100 dollars I ever spent, it is sitting out back waiting to go with me wherever I coach again
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Post by bobgoodman on May 6, 2018 15:06:28 GMT -6
Plastic conduit (PVC, ABS, HDPE) pieces are easily obtained for this sort of thing, & can easily be made into chutes, goalposts, ladder-type obstacles. Leave key cx unglued for easily disassembly & adjustment. You can sink a larger diameter to provide sleeves for reinstall'n at fixed locations.
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Post by Sparkey on May 6, 2018 16:47:28 GMT -6
Back in the day when we ran the Wing-T, two coaches would a high jump bar about two yards in front of about 4 players at about 4 feet off the ground on 10 yard “take off drill” for our OLinemen. They were not to hit the bar with their helmets. It was an EDD. We wanted our OL shoulder blocking a defender at waist level. Now that we hand block, we don’t want the OL blocking that low. At the same time, our backs would fake 10 yards downfield hiding the ball covered by their forearms.
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Post by silkyice on May 6, 2018 16:58:17 GMT -6
Don’t have chutes and don’t want them. O line plays low. We hit bags and have a target to hit.
Honestly, once kids get about 9th grade, they don’t play high on the o line usually.
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Post by td4tc on May 6, 2018 19:12:44 GMT -6
Honestly, once kids get about 9th grade, they don’t play high on the o line usually. Wow. If that were true for us I'd be a happy camper. And we LIVE in the chutes. One of our worst years in the run game coincided with the chute breaking and no one could seem to solder it. Maybe ours are too high. hahaha. Number one problem most HS teams in our area have is that they play high on O and D line. It's the rule rather than the exception. We need to drink the same kool-aid your guys do BTW home made chutes made in shop work fine and are especially good if the metal tubes (the two pieces) go inside of each other like a male-female joint. Then you can swivel them right and left for steps to the right and left and still get two guys in there.hope that make sense |
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Post by coachscdub on May 8, 2018 14:32:17 GMT -6
Take an old bed sheet or tarp or any clothlike material of a similar size. Fold it over so it's about shoulder width. Have one kid hold one side and another kid hold the opposite side. adjust height to the waist of the kids. Kids run through, as they come back they switch with the kids holding the chute. so on and so forth.
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Post by sam11 on May 12, 2018 6:44:53 GMT -6
I got rid of chutes all together. I just don't believe they make players play with better pad level. Instead, it promotes bending at the waist. Pad level is developed in the weight room and having a great stance at the beginning.
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Post by blb on May 12, 2018 7:12:06 GMT -6
BITD before slingshot goal posts I'd just tie a rope between two posts at desired height.
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Post by silkyice on May 12, 2018 11:11:32 GMT -6
BITD before slingshot goal posts I'd just tie a rope between two posts at desired height. Genius |
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Post by coachgreen05 on May 13, 2018 17:32:34 GMT -6
I got rid of chutes all together. I just don't believe they make players play with better pad level. Instead, it promotes bending at the waist. Pad level is developed in the weight room and having a great stance at the beginning. Interesting... how is it developed in the weight room? |
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Post by td4tc on May 14, 2018 9:55:18 GMT -6
I got rid of chutes all together. I just don't believe they make players play with better pad level. Instead, it promotes bending at the waist. Pad level is developed in the weight room and having a great stance at the beginning. Wow. I must be missing something. If I had to chose the best training aid (to translate to success) we have, other than the football itself, it would be the chute. If I could put a chute out on game day for run plays I would do it. |
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Post by funkfriss on May 14, 2018 10:18:34 GMT -6
BITD before slingshot goal posts I'd just tie a rope between two posts at desired height. This is what we had when I played, with bungee cords. Phukin sucked when your helmet caught the cord and snapped your neck back! We actually had two sets of poles about 3 yards length apart with the second cord higher. We'd go through both when working 2nd level blocks. When drive/reach blocking we would turn around (be in between the two poles) and just work under the lowest cord. Worked and definitely cheap. |
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Post by coachmonkey on May 15, 2018 11:11:06 GMT -6
PVC and rope.
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Post by bobgoodman on May 15, 2018 11:58:06 GMT -6
What I used to bring to practice was a 6' folding extension ruler. It was stiff enough that holding it at 1 end was good enough.
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Post by silkyice on May 15, 2018 18:09:16 GMT -6
I understand that chutes are designed to make you play lower. But isn’t it better to teach an aiming point on each type of block and rep that?
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Post by Defcord on May 15, 2018 18:22:26 GMT -6
I understand that chutes are designed to make you play lower. But isn’t it better to teach an aiming point on each type of block and rep that? Yes but you get instant feedback with the chutes when you take an improper trajectory to the aiming point. I think they just help reinforce what we are trying to teach. We do a fits on the five man sled as well. Where we will get to the proper aiming point with the proper technique before driving it. I think the more tools in the aresenal helps emphasize good pas level at good speeds. Anyone tool could probably be eliminated though as long as there are other ways to meet the objective. |
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Post by 53 on May 15, 2018 19:43:28 GMT -6
Top chain link fence pipes and bend them how you want by hand by wedging them between something.
Then get some self tapping metal screws and screw the joints together.
You’ll have around 50 dollars in it and they will hold up and be easy to take apart to store.
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Post by coachgreen05 on May 15, 2018 19:58:54 GMT -6
I understand that chutes are designed to make you play lower. But isn’t it better to teach an aiming point on each type of block and rep that? muscle memory...bodies remember the angle and get accustomed to it?  |
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Post by silkyice on May 15, 2018 21:05:49 GMT -6
I understand that chutes are designed to make you play lower. But isn’t it better to teach an aiming point on each type of block and rep that? muscle memory...bodies remember the angle and get accustomed to it? I understand. But doesn’t hitting the correct aiming point over and over also create muscle memory? |
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Post by freezeoption on May 16, 2018 5:59:07 GMT -6
yes hitting the correct point creates memory, but pad level has to be before that, actually stance starts, first step then the next two, pad level hand eye placement, that is my order, nothing worse to me is watching kids stand up and be straight up and down, I was watching some dw video on youtube yesterday, just for fun, one teams pad level was higher than the defense, I had to turn it, made me sick
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 6:35:53 GMT -6
Hello everyone, my question is simple. At a school with a limited football budget, what is an easy alternative to use for teaching pad level off the ball? I would even construct my own chutes if necessary if anyone has an easy design. Thanks in advance for your responses. Fenceposts. Go to Lowe's and buy a few 2X4s and nail them in place to make a chute-level post on one end of the practice field to work under. You can find plans online to make a chute out of a few dollars worth of PVC pipe from Lowe's, but those break pretty easily and won't last a whole season if you use them much. Personally, I think that teaching targets for the facemask and hands and just teaching solid technique works better without a chute. Chutes, IME, have their place but if you don't coach the technique, anyway, all you get is kids hunching over and bending at the waist with horrible technique to make it through the chute. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 6:52:10 GMT -6
Don’t have chutes and don’t want them. O line plays low. We hit bags and have a target to hit. Honestly, once kids get about 9th grade, they don’t play high on the o line usually. THIS. The target is the most important thing. Don't need a chute for that. IMO, guys who stress chutes and "staying low" more than the actual targets for head/shoulder/hands are putting the cart before the horse. If a kid attacks his targets with proper technique and footwork, the rest will follow. |
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Post by Sparkey on May 16, 2018 7:13:30 GMT -6
BITD before slingshot goal posts I'd just tie a rope between two posts at desired height. The rope is too old school for me! I used a bungee cord. :-) |
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Post by Sparkey on May 16, 2018 7:15:45 GMT -6
BITD before slingshot goal posts I'd just tie a rope between two posts at desired height. |
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