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Post by bcoachk on Mar 19, 2018 10:12:36 GMT -6
I recently took over as the head coach at a private school in my town. The town has two high schools one public and one private. The Public school has about 1200 kids, has been down record wise for the last couple of years, the private school has about 130 kids and has been to the quarterfinals in there division the last two years. We have 3 private middle schools in town one is a direct feed to the private high school and the other two, most of those kids go public. I want to try to get most of those kids from the two privates to choose the school I am at. What are some ideas people have for building a kind of pipeline. In all honesty if I can get 10 more kids a class that would be more than enough. Just looking for ideas to get kids interested specifically 8th graders that will be freshman.
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Post by chi5hi on Mar 19, 2018 13:22:06 GMT -6
I recently took over as the head coach at a private school in my town. The town has two high schools one public and one private. The Public school has about 1200 kids, has been down record wise for the last couple of years, the private school has about 130 kids and has been to the quarterfinals in there division the last two years. We have 3 private middle schools in town one is a direct feed to the private high school and the other two, most of those kids go public. I want to try to get most of those kids from the two privates to choose the school I am at. What are some ideas people have for building a kind of pipeline. In all honesty if I can get 10 more kids a class that would be more than enough. Just looking for ideas to get kids interested specifically 8th graders that will be freshman. For private schools, kids have to WANT to go there, (if he/she doesn't want it, he/she won't last) and parents have to be able to afford it. I don't know how you can affect either condition. |
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Post by SconnieOC on Mar 19, 2018 13:55:18 GMT -6
I'll start this by saying I have no experience in this area, so this could be a terrible idea
Sell your program's ability to prepare them for college football. There's enough crazy ass parents out there who if the dream of college athletics is in their head, money won't be a concern. Talk about playing in the quarterfinals, more games=more preparation for the next level. Rigorous class schedules lead to better prepared college students. Come up with a way to equate your program with the next level.
With that being said, I don't think you can blatantly lie to kids. Some of what I said is true, some is a bit far fetched, but if you can find a way to overcome those dollar signs in their eyes, you might have a chance at a couple.
Now that I typed that and re-read it.. I don't think it's a great idea.. but I'll still leave it here for you.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 19, 2018 14:14:57 GMT -6
Well, first you need to take a look at the private HS's admission standards as that might be the reason that two-thirds of the kids are going to the public school. I know that many of the private schools in this state have strict admission policies and that's a double edge sword. They get some of the best and brightest from the area but they also lose out on some talented athletes that have so-so grades. One school requires a 3.0 coming out of middle school along with a passing score on their entrance exam.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Mar 19, 2018 15:01:13 GMT -6
Educate those middle school kids/parents on what exactly gaining admission and financing their education at your school looks like.
My guess is there's a lot of misinformation out there about how it works, and the more people there are explaining the reality of the experience at your school and the options available to families, the better you're going to be.
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Post by freezeoption on Mar 19, 2018 16:10:38 GMT -6
I am sure the people know about your school. Private schools around here are a family thing. There is a family tradition about going to private schools. My guess is cost or grades to go to school there, which I would have guessed you already know. One, you got to keep winning because you are competing with the public school for athletes. You might be able to get some to transfer to go there if they want to be a part of a winning culture. The college recruitment angle is a twist that can get more your way, but you've got to deliver. Privates have to offer something different to get people to go there, you need to come up with that.
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Post by orion320 on Mar 19, 2018 18:46:17 GMT -6
I'll start this by saying I have no experience in this area, so this could be a terrible idea Sell your program's ability to prepare them for college football. There's enough crazy ass parents out there who if the dream of college athletics is in their head, money won't be a concern. Talk about playing in the quarterfinals, more games=more preparation for the next level. Rigorous class schedules lead to better prepared college students. Come up with a way to equate your program with the next level. With that being said, I don't think you can blatantly lie to kids. Some of what I said is true, some is a bit far fetched, but if you can find a way to overcome those dollar signs in their eyes, you might have a chance at a couple. Now that I typed that and re-read it.. I don't think it's a great idea.. but I'll still leave it here for you. Along these lines another idea could be to have a "Signing Day" for the kids attending your school. A small school by us does this and it seems to work pretty well. Gets the kids excited along with other kids willing to try to play as well due to the fanfare they put behind the signing day. Now this school is a public so they take the 8th Graders last day of school and do a signing day with all of the High School head coaches. Pretty neat idea. |
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Post by famar on Mar 19, 2018 19:53:43 GMT -6
I recently took over as the head coach at a private school in my town. The town has two high schools one public and one private. The Public school has about 1200 kids, has been down record wise for the last couple of years, the private school has about 130 kids and has been to the quarterfinals in there division the last two years. We have 3 private middle schools in town one is a direct feed to the private high school and the other two, most of those kids go public. I want to try to get most of those kids from the two privates to choose the school I am at. What are some ideas people have for building a kind of pipeline. In all honesty if I can get 10 more kids a class that would be more than enough. Just looking for ideas to get kids interested specifically 8th graders that will be freshman. When it comes to private school education, in order to get people to come to you that otherwise might not give you a second thought or might be on the fence, you have to convince them that what their child will be getting is demonstrably better than the public school alternative, so much so that they will be willing to pay for it. As much as you or may not be thinking about this in terms of football, most parents are going to be looking at it from the education point of view. My opinion, you have to sell the academics before you can sell the football. Football is going to last 4 years, maybe 5-8 if they play in college, the academics are going to carry them through life. |
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Post by stilltryin on Mar 20, 2018 13:28:20 GMT -6
I'll start this by saying I have no experience in this area, so this could be a terrible idea Sell your program's ability to prepare them for college football. There's enough crazy ass parents out there who if the dream of college athletics is in their head, money won't be a concern. Talk about playing in the quarterfinals, more games=more preparation for the next level. Rigorous class schedules lead to better prepared college students. Come up with a way to equate your program with the next level. With that being said, I don't think you can blatantly lie to kids. Some of what I said is true, some is a bit far fetched, but if you can find a way to overcome those dollar signs in their eyes, you might have a chance at a couple. Now that I typed that and re-read it.. I don't think it's a great idea.. but I'll still leave it here for you. Along these lines another idea could be to have a "Signing Day" for the kids attending your school. A small school by us does this and it seems to work pretty well. Gets the kids excited along with other kids willing to try to play as well due to the fanfare they put behind the signing day. Now this school is a public so they take the 8th Graders last day of school and do a signing day with all of the High School head coaches. Pretty neat idea. |
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Post by stilltryin on Mar 20, 2018 13:37:44 GMT -6
Along these lines another idea could be to have a "Signing Day" for the kids attending your school. A small school by us does this and it seems to work pretty well. Gets the kids excited along with other kids willing to try to play as well due to the fanfare they put behind the signing day. Now this school is a public so they take the 8th Graders last day of school and do a signing day with all of the High School head coaches. Pretty neat idea. Either that, or it's a terrible idea. Bad enough we have high school kids calling press conferences to announce they're "taking their talents" to whatever college it is. Now we're gonna have eighth-graders doing to same thing to announce where they're going to high school? Puh-leeeze. How 'bout we do a good job coaching football, being a good role model for kids, sending them off to good schools and building a program our school/town/student body can be proud of ... and let folks decide if they want their kids to be part of that. Or is that too old-fashioned an approach? |
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Post by 3rdandlong on Mar 20, 2018 13:43:55 GMT -6
Sorry, but I just can't even fathom the possibility of giving a private school coach advice on how to get kids over to his school since private schools have pillaged public schools for decades.
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Post by o3t on Mar 20, 2018 13:47:52 GMT -6
Win over the moms!
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Post by coachjo14 on Mar 20, 2018 15:43:20 GMT -6
^ ^ ^ ^ This guy gets it! LOL I would attempt to visit all of the local schools that make sense geographically. Like you said if you can get 10 kids extra in it will be worth it. I would also try to put together some information (maybe a digital presentation and highlight tape). Utilize Social Media (if they follow you it will create more access for you). Invite them to your school for a "camp" Make it very affordable it'd be a fund raiser and recruiting tool then. Moving forward don't just show up in March or April treat it like college recruiting and get your face in the place a few times throughout the year Invite them to games all of that... Hope that helps. |
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Post by fkaboneyard on Mar 23, 2018 12:31:53 GMT -6
My suggestion was to put on camps for middle school football kids. Build relationships with middle school coaches that could encourage them to go to your school. Win the parents. Don't be a d-bag to kids at the camps - make them better and treat them well... give them reasons to want to play for you.
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