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Post by coachsky on Jan 24, 2008 16:52:59 GMT -6
What do you think might lead to this variation in stats for this 2007 defensive performance?
Against non playoff opponents the Defense gave up 8.2 points per game. 4 wins, 1 loss. Gave up (14,7,7,10 &3)
Against opponents that made the post season the Defense gave up 40.2 points a game. 5 losses. (Gave up - 42,28,36,56,40)
I am certain that you would expect a disparity, but this wide?
On your first impression would you think it would lead to this inconsistetncy;
talent / scheme / youth / fortitude / other
Just based on stats and not knowing about the team make up or watching film what diagnosis or questions would you ask?
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 24, 2008 17:01:11 GMT -6
I would say there is a huge talent gap in your conference. The lower teams are really poor and the top teams are really good.
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Post by Yash on Jan 24, 2008 17:16:01 GMT -6
Well we don't know scheme so we can't say that, really all we know are the stats, we know nothing else about the team. The easy answer without seeing any film is talent. What are the size of the non conference opponents compared to the conference opponents? You gotta give us a little more info to dissect the stats.
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Post by carookie on Jan 24, 2008 17:23:09 GMT -6
Stats in football can be very misleading. In those games you won, I imagine you at one time or another tried to run the ball to take some time off the clock. This denies the opposition the ball, and in turn gives them less of an opportunity to score. So thanks in no part to your defense the opposition will most likely have a lower score.
Conersely in those losses, I figure that you may have aired it out some, taken risks to try to catch up and, in the least, gave your opponent a few more possesions. There you go, now they have more scoring opportunities because of your teams offense.
Its one of the reasons football is so great, statistics cant be easily isolated to determine success or failure.
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Post by phantom on Jan 24, 2008 19:38:52 GMT -6
What do you think might lead to this variation in stats for this 2007 defensive performance? Against non playoff opponents the Defense gave up 8.2 points per game. 4 wins, 1 loss. Gave up (14,7,7,10 &3) Against opponents that made the post season the Defense gave up 40.2 points a game. 5 losses. (Gave up - 42,28,36,56,40) I am certain that you would expect a disparity, but this wide? On your first impression would you think it would lead to this inconsistetncy; talent / scheme / youth / fortitude / other Just based on stats and not knowing about the team make up or watching film what diagnosis or questions would you ask? Youth could be a possibility but talent is more likely. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 24, 2008 19:51:34 GMT -6
I would say you are looking for something that is not there. It probably is just the talent/ program strength distribution. I have seen this happen on quite a few occasions.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 24, 2008 20:04:39 GMT -6
Not to sound like an a$$ but it looks like you beat the bad teams and got beat by the good teams. A very middle of the pack type team, good enough to win some games but not good enough to compete with the better teams. I would say it looks like talent was the deciding factor in the ppg stat. Now are you going to come back and tell us all those losses were by an average of 2 points or something to shoot down the talent argument  |
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Post by stud17 on Jan 24, 2008 20:24:04 GMT -6
As Brad Childress once said, "Figures lie and liars figure."
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Post by djwesp on Jan 24, 2008 23:29:29 GMT -6
how about this question....
are the losses to passing oriented teams and the victories to run oriented teams? that's the first thing i thought of when seeing the stats...
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Post by gregspahn on Jan 25, 2008 11:14:02 GMT -6
Are you looking at the right stats? Could there be other reasons besides what you presented.
In the words of Mark Twain:
"There are lies, damn lies and statistics."
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 25, 2008 11:36:15 GMT -6
Unless this is a trick question or a catch to it, it's a pretty simple answer. You beat the poor teams and lost to the good teams in your conference. Like I said in my earlier post...There is a talent gap in the conference. 5 very good teams, 2 fair to below average teams, and 4 very bad teams.
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Post by joelee on Jan 25, 2008 11:36:27 GMT -6
Mental toughness. Not treating good teams the same way you treat bad teams. Being intimidated?
Or injury hits just when the schedule got tough.
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Post by coachsky on Jan 25, 2008 12:04:58 GMT -6
DC Ohio had the best guess.
Two big reasons:
We were very young. 6 Sophomores and only 2 seniors starters. We really had trouble with misdirection and we got over matched up front a couple times.
In two of those games we got behind early, we weren't running the ball well and ended up throwing, not our bread and butter, lead to picks and easy scores.
That stats seem so unusual to me, but it's been well said in earlier replies, stats don't tell the whole story. It's a combination of things.
Having nine returning starters on defense and ten on offense should help this year.
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