fugulookinat
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Post by fugulookinat on Jan 8, 2008 18:06:35 GMT -6
I'm interested in finding out how many teams make the playoffs in the largest classification in the state you coach in. How many playoff games do you have to win to be crowned "State Champion"?
128 teams makes the playoffs in Texas in class 5a. You will have to win 6 playoff games to be state champion. Is 16 games too many to play in a year??? NCAA doesn't play that many and they take a huge break before their bowl game.
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Post by waltflanagansdog on Jan 8, 2008 19:22:21 GMT -6
In Arkansas the largest classification needs to win 3 games to win the state title. There are only 16 teams in the 7A. 8 make the playoffs. So they start in the quarterfinals.
The smallest classifications 2A-4A start with 32 teams. A few teams get byes, but it usually takes 5 games to win the state title.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 8, 2008 20:31:17 GMT -6
You have to win 6 in PA to win states. So 16 games total to play in a state championship. I think with byes and all the district playoffs 70 AAAA teams made the playoffs out of something like 180 schools.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jan 8, 2008 20:57:52 GMT -6
In Louisiana... 32 out of 55-60ish teams make the playoffs in all 5 classes. 5 games to take home hardware.
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Post by Tampa on Jan 8, 2008 21:26:03 GMT -6
In Florida, the top 4 classifications start the playoffs with 32 teams per classification and you need 5 wins to take it all.
The smaller classifications you need 4 wins to claim the title.
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Post by wiaa3 on Jan 8, 2008 21:37:22 GMT -6
In Wisconsin, 32 teams make the playoffs for each division (7 divisions). You have to win 5 games to take home the gold ball. 14 game season when all is said and done.
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Post by k on Jan 8, 2008 22:21:27 GMT -6
In CT you win 2 games you're state champs.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 8, 2008 22:35:27 GMT -6
256 teams makes the playoffs in Texas in class 5a. only 128 teams in class 5A make the playoffs (64 in Division I, 64 in Division II).. oh, and coaches salaries (in the UIL) cannot be paid by boosters nor can they be compensated based on wins (you mentioned something to the effect they could be or are another thread) |
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Post by carookie on Jan 9, 2008 1:04:47 GMT -6
In CA darn near everybody makes the playoffs. There are 10 sections, on average each section has 5 divisions for 11 man football (although the southern section has 13); so, and this is an estimate you may give or take a few, there are 50 CIF champs for 11 man football. Some of those CIF playoffs take only 8 teams some take 16, Id say more take 16 so it avgs out to about 14
Now just do the math 14x50=700 teams make playoffs in CA.
Of course this is just a rough estimate, although I'd assume Im within 40; you can go to CIF website, then filter through to all the section sites if you really want to count. Although this is a good things because in CA for every playoff game you coach in you get 10% added on to your stipend.
Up until 2 years ago this was all we had in CA; and for the most part if you are one of the 50 teams to win CIF you claim your title and put on your ring. As of two years ago though they implemented a plus-1 system.
Its all done by the rankings; and schools are broken down into 3 categories (Small schools, Mid Size School, Big Schools). One school from each size is taken from the Northern sections, one from the Southern ones; so I guess technically only 2 teams make the state playoffs per size.
Confused?
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Post by realdawg on Jan 9, 2008 6:21:28 GMT -6
In NC there are 4 classes during the regular season. In the playoffs each class is subdivided so there are 8 playoff classes. 32 teams make it in each class. You must win 4 games to qualify.
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Post by brian94 on Jan 9, 2008 7:17:03 GMT -6
In NY the largest class is AA, each section has 4 teams in the play offs. It is all regionally based. You have section semi finals, finals, regional final, state semi final and then state final. We only play 8 games. Our league is split so 4 out of 14 teams make the play offs. Tough to get in.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 9, 2008 7:31:29 GMT -6
In Ohio, there are 6 divisions (Div. 1 being the biggest) and 4 regions per division. Top 8 in each region make it in.
You have to win 5 games to win state championship
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fugulookinat
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Post by fugulookinat on Jan 9, 2008 7:39:23 GMT -6
256 teams makes the playoffs in Texas in class 5a. only 128 teams in class 5A make the playoffs (64 in Division I, 64 in Division II).. oh, and coaches salaries (in the UIL) cannot be paid by boosters nor can they be compensated based on wins (you mentioned something to the effect they could be or are another thread) You're right! I doubled up Div I & 2. Any money given to a coach is going to be "under the table". You will not hear about it! Trust me. |
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Post by htownoc on Jan 9, 2008 12:06:38 GMT -6
WV- 16teams qualify for the AAA playoffs (approx. half the teams in AAA)
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Post by poweriguy on Jan 9, 2008 12:31:14 GMT -6
Although this is a good things because in CA for every playoff game you coach in you get 10% added on to your stipend. I would have liked to coached in your school district when we went to the section finals. Our school considered playoffs as "part of the season". So we just got our regular stipends even though we put in 4 more weeks. But your right about CA, it's a freakin mess. |
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Post by coachcastleman on Jan 9, 2008 13:24:40 GMT -6
In Illinois we have 256 teams qualify for the playoffs out of approximately 500 teams. The have 8 classes with 32 teams in each class. 5 games will win you the championship.
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Post by coachsample on Jan 9, 2008 13:44:45 GMT -6
Georgia
32 Teams from each of the five classes make the playoffs. 5 games gets you a ring.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jan 9, 2008 15:05:17 GMT -6
Nebraska:
Largest two classes- Class A (28 schools) and B (32 schools)- 9 game schedule, 16 qualify for playoffs
Class C1, C2, D1, D2 (58-72 schools per class) 8 game schedule, 32 qualify.
Class D3 (6 man) has 15 teams- 7 game schedule- 8 qualify. 6 man is not sanctioned by our state association (as of 2002, I think). Their coaches association does all the scheduling, regulations, etc.
On average, half the teams in a class qualify for the playoffs (too many in my estimation).
Prior to 2003 only 16 qualified for the playoffs in all classes (9 game schedule), except 6 man, which has always been 8.
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Post by cmorris33 on Jan 9, 2008 15:12:48 GMT -6
In AZ 16 teams qualify for the state playoffs in the 5A division II division. Your ranking for the playoff bracket is based on the powerpoints that you have earned throughout the regular season. Each team recieves 50 points for a win and 5 bonus points for every win teams on your schedule earn throughout the regular season.
I takes 4 wins to win the state championship. There are 30 teams in 5A division II.
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Post by coachjd on Jan 9, 2008 15:46:16 GMT -6
Minnesota 5A -- 8 sections with 7-8 teams (3 games to win to be section champs, unless #1 seed had a bye) The 8 section champs make state playoffs. 3 games to win to be state champs.
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Post by lionhart on Jan 9, 2008 17:10:32 GMT -6
New Jersey.......
the schools are divided into groups 1-4 (smallest enrollment being 1)
the state is divided into 4 sections (north 1, north 2, central, and south)
in the playoffs, each section has its own playoffs for each group, and up to 8 teams can qualify for the playoffs in eac group (if a group has less than 8 teams finish over .500, only those teams qualify)
so when all is said and done, a team would have to win 3 games to be a "state" champion. we DONT play section vs section to determine a "true" state champion though, which is about as rediculous as it gets. so we have 4 group 1 champs, 4 group 2, etc.
non-publics, however, are not separated into sections..... there are only groups 1-4 based on enrollment. thius produces a non-public champion for each group size.
so when our season is officially over, there are 20, yes 20 "state" champions in this silly playoff system .... 4 champions from each public group (16 total) and 4 for each non-public group.
sounds like us and california should get together and go bowling sometime
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2008 17:22:42 GMT -6
Illinois has 8 total classes with 32 teams in each class. Technically, there are no classes during the regular season. We play a nine game season. All teams that go 6-3 or better are in the playoffs. Most 5-4 teams also qualify, but a few get left out every season for not having enough points. Points are simply how many games your opponents win. After all the playoff teams are decided (256) then the classes are formed. The 32 smallest enrollments are Class A, 33-64 are 2A and so on.
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Post by highball007 on Jan 9, 2008 22:03:07 GMT -6
6A - 46 Schools 24 Teams make Playoffs Schools have 1500 students and up!
5A - 40 schools 20 Teams make Playoffs Schools have 900 - 1499!
4A - 41 Schools 20 Teams make Playoffs Schools have 400 - 899!
3A - 39 Schools 16 Teams make Playoffs Schools have 280 - 399!
2A - 40 Schools 16 Teams make Playoffs Schools have 120 - 279!
1A - 54 Schools 16 Teams make Playoffs schools have 119 and under!
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Post by ramsoc on Jan 10, 2008 2:27:35 GMT -6
Although this is a good things because in CA for every playoff game you coach in you get 10% added on to your stipend. Must be your district, cause I didn't get any extra when we played two playoff games two years ago. |
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Post by Tampa on Jan 10, 2008 5:44:05 GMT -6
In our district, we get an extra % of our supplement for each playoff game. I do not know if other districts in Florida pay or or not.
This extra money is not a reward for making the playoffs, but pay for extra work by union contract. But, it's an incentive nether less.
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Post by highball007 on Jan 10, 2008 9:34:51 GMT -6
Every week we are in the playoffs each coach gets 10% of his coaching stipend. It is not a lot but it is at least something extra from the school saying great job, we appreciate what you are doing!
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 10, 2008 13:32:59 GMT -6
In SC we have 4 classifications A, AA, AAA, AAAA. Every 2 years the state will reclassify based on enrollment figures. The 48 largest schools are AAAA, the next 48 are AAA, and so on. 2008/2009 will be the next reclassificaiton period. (completed this year)
Ok the easy ones first: AA and AAA
Each class has 8 regions in the state. Each region has between 5 and 8 teams (the SCHSL considers driving distance in setting up regions) The top 4 from each region make the playoffs. Only region games count in playoff placement. Therefore you can techically make the playoffs in a 5 team region with only 1 win. These schools play a 10 game season. The playoffs are seeded 1-4 for each region, with the upstate schools playing upstate schools and low state schools playing low state schools. 4 rounds create an Upper State Champ/Lower State Champ. These 2 meet in Columbia during our Weekend of Champions at the University of South Carolina. Total number of games 5.
The AAAA school play an 11 game regular season schedule. I am no expert but here goes:
We have a point system based on the size of the school that is played. 4 points for AAAA school, 3 points for a AAA school, and so on. You have 2 mark off games, so you count your 9 best games. You must maximize your points. Region winners get a bonus for finishing 1st. After the season is completed, The AAAA schools split into 2 divisions: Division I - the largest, and Division II. This split is determined by your school enrollment ( the one that determined your classification) and the 16 qualifying schools (based on points) with largest enrollment are Division I. The other 16 qualifying are Division II.
Seedings:
Each division will seed teams #1-16, regardless of locale. Unlike in the past, your region finish will play a part in where you are seeded. Region winners are seeded first based on points. 2nd place are seeded next, 3rd next, and at large last. This means that regardless of your point total, if you win your region your team will be seeded before any region runner-up, just not higher that a region winner with more points. Because of the split divisions, a region winner could be seeded #5 or #6 i. E. all region winners are seeded before the next group (runners up).
Each division will play 3 rounds (home site based on higher seed) and the final will be play at the WoC in Columbia.
What this means:
If you are a school with an enrollment of #17 - possibly #25 you could be in either DI or DII. AAAA schools have to carefully schedule games with the point system in place. Out of state games count the same as in state school games, enrollment figures of the OoS team is looked at as to where they would fall IF they were in state and points are awarded as such.
The single A schools have gone to something similiar. They have 2 divisions and a point system as well. The difference is that they play a 10 game schedule and finish their playoffs a week before everyone else. Their Weekend of Champions is played at the SC State on the Friday after Thanksgiving.
You have to be a Sabrematician to try and project what the seeds will be until the very end.
A grand total of 7 teams getting fitted for rings. That is for 198 schools that field football teams.
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