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Post by Victor on Feb 20, 2018 14:50:07 GMT -6
I was searching for something that I actually forgot but ended up with this topic: how to use different drills to see the players' instincts and natural skills. So I ask for those who have more experience, have you ever used it?
The most used drills I've found were: deer hunter, towel game, rabbit chases, dummy relay races, sumo, hawaiian rules football.
If you use another drills, please, describe them, the reason and what to look for. I'm almost signing to be the new head coach of a team just lost the best three players, the whole idea was to see if I find, for example, a RB that could play DB due to the results of those drills mentioned above.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by 50slantstrong on Feb 20, 2018 14:56:01 GMT -6
Maybe not the type of unorthodox response you'd anticipated, but I think you can tell A LOT about a kid's athletic ability by looking at them power clean or snatch, not the weight, but the explosion and fluidity in which they perform it...
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Post by chi5hi on Feb 20, 2018 15:01:20 GMT -6
Well...I always thought that a drill was something a position coach devised in order to teach his players something, or to work out a problem his players were having.
If it were me, I'd just ask them which position(s) they're interested in playing and then let them try out. Look for the guys who seem to have te abilities you're looking for.
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Post by Victor on Feb 20, 2018 15:06:41 GMT -6
I'm from Brazil, btw, forget the advanced weights exercises, neither natural skills that don't use a soccer ball, also the coaching staff are former players that have little football knowledge. It'll be a long way, but I'm excited!!!
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 21, 2018 7:23:34 GMT -6
We play 7-on-7 at the end of every week, just pick-up games with all players, playground-style. It helps us see who lead, who can organize, who can run/jump/catch/be athletic. We have a big "Cam Newton-ish" underclassman QB. IF you just watched him play QB, you wouldn't say he is a very good qb, let alone athlete. These games let us see that the kid is a FREAK of an athlete, but only when he doesn't have to think. It has helped the QB coach work with him, minimizing reads and his thinking and just letting him play.
We also play a bunch of physical "combative" games, like sumo, mostly just to see who has a competitive, aggressive streak.
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Post by aceback76 on Feb 21, 2018 7:28:26 GMT -6
I was searching for something that I actually forgot but ended up with this topic: how to use different drills to see the players' instincts and natural skills. So I ask for those who have more experience, have you ever used it? The most used drills I've found were: deer hunter, towel game, rabbit chases, dummy relay races, sumo, hawaiian rules football. If you use another drills, please, describe them, the reason and what to look for. I'm almost signing to be the new head coach of a team just lost the best three players, the whole idea was to see if I find, for example, a RB that could play DB due to the results of those drills mentioned above. Thanks in advance! We evaluate their "R-H" factor (RUN-HIT) thru normal blocking, tackling & pursuit drills, etc. |
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 21, 2018 13:44:49 GMT -6
I usually can tell you if a kid can play for me by their willingness to get in a squat rack and squat. Never met a kid who was a good, reliable fb player who avoided squatting.
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Post by Defcord on Feb 21, 2018 13:58:32 GMT -6
Throw just about any kind of ball out to a group of kids and you will see who can play, and who can't for that matter.
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Post by 54695469 on Feb 21, 2018 16:15:18 GMT -6
Over the years I have found that dodgeball is a very reliable tool for identifying football potential. Freeze tag has also been very good for our staff. Both breed and identify leadership skills as well as inherent athletic ability.
We like to video these activities as much as we can and use them for player evaluations during the off-season.
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Post by newt21 on Feb 22, 2018 8:04:31 GMT -6
We're middle school and we do powerball and capture the flag, kids love them both.
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Post by knightfan64 on Feb 26, 2018 7:23:57 GMT -6
We do something competitive at just about the end of every workout. Some type of competition, I like to see who is willing to compete, we do a lot of what you mentioned above, cat and mouse type games, relay races, 7 on 7, etc. Kids love pick up 7 on 7 and you can find some athletes there. One drill I just put in we do in the weight room when they are dog tired is we have a ton of cones, all different colors, I started timing the kids on picking up the cones in different orders that I shout out and putting them on our cone hook. Have to be in the right order gotta, get the direction from the coach and sprint about 15 yards to get the cone and remember which one it is. Try to test who can listen to directions, and take in information on the fly
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Post by coachcb on Feb 26, 2018 9:53:28 GMT -6
We evaluate our players through drills specific to football and the position they're playing. Over the years, we have had many kids that were "athletes": fast, agile, and strong but they struggled to actually PLAY FOOTBALL. I can go through a few dozen cases of "Looks Like Tarzan, Plays Like Jane" but here is a good one from last year:
6'1'', 185lb junior WR/DB that ran a 4.75 forty, 4.4 pro-agility, benched 225lbs, squatted 285lbs, cleaned 215lbs. He is an all-state basketball player and all-state sprinter and jumper.
Started off the year looking at him at the SS spot but it became clear through tackling and shedding drills that he was afraid of contact. He was solid in zone coverage and off-man coverage but he couldn't play press coverage because, again, he didn't want to hit people. He made some good plays in zone coverage throughout the year as he had a knack for breaking up passes and picking the QB. But, we were screwed if a ball was caught within 10 yards of him because he couldn't tackle for chit.
He continually ran around blocks and dove at the ball carrier's ankles, despite being coached other-wise. At WR, he ran crap routes (couldn't even get into a proper stance at times), dropped the ball repeatedly and basically refused to block anyone. He tried to catch the ball with his breast plate, whiffed on his blocks because he either lunged at the defender or just wouldn't make contact, and a three-step slant turned into a 10 yard post in a hurry. He could catch a fade or corner route as long as there wasn't a defender within 4 yards of him. He was spooky about catching a ball in traffic and taking a hit. Again, we coached the crap out of the kid and we saw all of these glaring deficiencies in various drills.
So... We finally decided to utilize his speed and size in simple ways: getting him the ball on Fly Sweeps and on quick screens. This didn't work out either as he would juke and jive as soon as he got the ball instead of getting upfield. On one Fly Sweep, everyone but the 5'8'', 150lb CB was effectively blocked and he was ten yards down the field. Instead of running to the sticks (as he had been coached) he saw the CB coming free (again, 10 yards down field) and cut it right back into WRs who were blocking for him. A LB slipped a block and dropped him for a one-yard loss. Had he turned the corner, he would have run free for at least 5-6 yards before the CB got to him and then he could have made a move or just buried a shoulder through the kid and dropped him.
Basically, the most athletic kid on the team became our second-string FS and our fifth-sixth WR. We coached the hell out of the kid and repped all of skills necessary to play the positions repeatedly. But, he's not coachable, he's afraid of contact, and is most comfortable popping off threes in basketball and running and jumping in track.
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Post by 19delta on Feb 26, 2018 14:14:02 GMT -6
Boyd Epley has said that the 10-yard dash, the VJ, and the 20-yard shuttle are the tests that reveal the best athletes.
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Post by Victor on Feb 27, 2018 9:49:43 GMT -6
Boyd Epley has said that the 10-yard dash, the VJ, and the 20-yard shuttle are the tests that reveal the best athletes. Just in case, do you have a table of results that could inform the minimum for each position? |
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