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Post by gators41 on Jan 11, 2018 10:01:34 GMT -6
I know some successful programs, (Large State Chamions) that have gone to this type of format at practice.
Hour and a half tops.
Could you do it?
What are the pros and cons?
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Post by realdawg on Jan 11, 2018 10:05:32 GMT -6
I would think it could be done pretty easy if you are two platoon. I don’t think we could do it with 2 way players.
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Post by chi5hi on Jan 11, 2018 10:08:07 GMT -6
Yes. Platoon and it works.
Pros: Everything is accomplished more quickly and the kids don't lose attention.
Cons: Nothing.
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Post by gators41 on Jan 11, 2018 10:09:54 GMT -6
Yes. Platoon and it works. Pros: Everything is accomplished more quickly and the kids don't lose attention. Cons: Nothing. HAHA. I got ya. How do you fit everything in. Special Teams and all. Defensive Run Fits? Scout Offense is the biggest problem to me. Its hard to go fast and get the right look. How do you do this in under 25 minutes efficiently |
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Post by chi5hi on Jan 11, 2018 10:18:22 GMT -6
We plan ahead and yes, we fit everything we need to work...
BTW...we don't "go fast" on offense. That's not our philosophy.
Special teams get the entire field on Thursday.
When you platoon it is absolutely possible.
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Post by pvogel on Jan 11, 2018 10:22:58 GMT -6
I would love to. Definitely helps if you platoon.
Also film is your friend. Use it as a tool for practice.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 11, 2018 10:34:50 GMT -6
I would imagine that the 1.5 hours only includes team field time.
Meaning that weights, film, chalk talk, meetings, and pre-practice stuff is not included.
They would also need to be a two-platoon team.
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Post by chi5hi on Jan 11, 2018 10:41:53 GMT -6
I would imagine that the 1.5 hours only includes team field time. Meaning that weights, film, chalk talk, meetings, and pre-practice stuff is not included. They would also need to be a two-platoon team. Of course. That goes without saying. |
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Post by Hitch & Pitch on Jan 11, 2018 11:01:59 GMT -6
As the season progresses we go from a 2:15 Practice Day (including Special teams and conditioning) to a little over 1:30 by the last 3 to 4 games.
Wednesday may go a little longer because we go offense and defense, and finalize our game plan. I tell my kids and parents, Wednesday are "No Excuse Days", If you want to play Friday, don't tell me you're hurt, don't feel good, got tutoring, a doctors appointment, have to babysit, you name it.
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Post by coachks on Jan 11, 2018 11:05:25 GMT -6
I know some successful programs, (Large State Chamions) that have gone to this type of format at practice. Hour and a half tops. Could you do it? What are the pros and cons? Its relatively easy, if you have the resources. 1) 2 Platoon team with enough coaches that you can keep your scout team and subs organized (3 or 4 actively coaching the unit, somebody managing subs, 1 or 2 doing scout team). 2) Established program so that you are not installing during the season. Scheme carry over from the previous season, spring and summer is critical. Now you are just doing Indy and repping plays (tag periods ect). 3) Resources to film practice + watch practice daily. This means having a manager to film, a platform to film from, the ability to quickly upload it and a time and place for the team to watch it. And usually... 4) Kids in the weight room during the school day. Eliminates cardio, stretching, warmups ect becauase it is taken care of during class (obviously with lifting). Not really part of "practice" per se, but it is a time saver to get you under 1:30. Sample: Pre-Prac (from bell to whenever you begin) - QB throw, Kickers kick, snappers snap ect. Specialist time 10 min: Intensity drill (live team, Oklahoma, Goalline, tackling Circuit... whatever you like to get the energy up). 20 min: Indy 10 Min: 7 on 7 / 1 on 1 10 Min: Outside Run/Inside Run / 1 on 1 10 Min: Special team 15 Min: Team O 15 Min: Team D |
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Post by jgordon1 on Jan 11, 2018 11:12:10 GMT -6
What do you do for backups for those of you who 2 platoon
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Post by center on Jan 11, 2018 11:38:16 GMT -6
Can't you practice as long or as short as you want to as long as you organize it to get everything done. I think even a one platoon team can go 1:30 and get something done.
At a lot of places film is on Hudl, weights are in school, meetings do not exist are at lunch or study hall. Those things save time for those that have them.
Also what you do with Monday and Thursday can shorten the Tuesday-Wednesday work days. One coach I know (successful) does only special teams work on Thursday and that is the only day they do ST.
Kids are usually sick and tired of practice by mid-season if not earlier, so the sooner you can get through it the better you might be.
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Post by gators41 on Jan 11, 2018 11:55:51 GMT -6
I know some successful programs, (Large State Chamions) that have gone to this type of format at practice. Hour and a half tops. Could you do it? What are the pros and cons? Its relatively easy, if you have the resources. 1) 2 Platoon team with enough coaches that you can keep your scout team and subs organized (3 or 4 actively coaching the unit, somebody managing subs, 1 or 2 doing scout team). 2) Established program so that you are not installing during the season. Scheme carry over from the previous season, spring and summer is critical. Now you are just doing Indy and repping plays (tag periods ect). 3) Resources to film practice + watch practice daily. This means having a manager to film, a platform to film from, the ability to quickly upload it and a time and place for the team to watch it. And usually... 4) Kids in the weight room during the school day. Eliminates cardio, stretching, warmups ect becauase it is taken care of during class (obviously with lifting). Not really part of "practice" per se, but it is a time saver to get you under 1:30. Sample: Pre-Prac (from bell to whenever you begin) - QB throw, Kickers kick, snappers snap ect. Specialist time 10 min: Intensity drill (live team, Oklahoma, Goalline, tackling Circuit... whatever you like to get the energy up). 20 min: Indy 10 Min: 7 on 7 / 1 on 1 10 Min: Outside Run/Inside Run / 1 on 1 10 Min: Special team 15 Min: Team O 15 Min: Team D I like that. How can you do enough 7v7 for both O and D. Or do you do it at the same time? |
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Post by coachks on Jan 11, 2018 12:06:47 GMT -6
Its relatively easy, if you have the resources. 1) 2 Platoon team with enough coaches that you can keep your scout team and subs organized (3 or 4 actively coaching the unit, somebody managing subs, 1 or 2 doing scout team). 2) Established program so that you are not installing during the season. Scheme carry over from the previous season, spring and summer is critical. Now you are just doing Indy and repping plays (tag periods ect). 3) Resources to film practice + watch practice daily. This means having a manager to film, a platform to film from, the ability to quickly upload it and a time and place for the team to watch it. And usually... 4) Kids in the weight room during the school day. Eliminates cardio, stretching, warmups ect becauase it is taken care of during class (obviously with lifting). Not really part of "practice" per se, but it is a time saver to get you under 1:30. Sample: Pre-Prac (from bell to whenever you begin) - QB throw, Kickers kick, snappers snap ect. Specialist time 10 min: Intensity drill (live team, Oklahoma, Goalline, tackling Circuit... whatever you like to get the energy up). 20 min: Indy 10 Min: 7 on 7 / 1 on 1 10 Min: Outside Run/Inside Run / 1 on 1 10 Min: Special team 15 Min: Team O 15 Min: Team D I like that. How can you do enough 7v7 for both O and D. Or do you do it at the same time? Couple ways to do it: 1) Do it at the same time. Offense going against a Scout D, Defense going against a Scout O. This is obviously ideal if you have the numbers. 2) Do it at the same time, basically running your offense vs your defense. This is how we do it during the Spring / Summer / Camp. 3) Offense goes Monday, Defense goes Tuesday. Split 5 and 5 on Wednesday. 4) When you get later into the season, you probably lighten up on team (10 minutes each) or cut out the intensity period and add that time for 7 on 7 period, Inside run, Outside Run ect. |
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Post by adawg2302 on Jan 11, 2018 14:54:52 GMT -6
We have plenty of players play both ways and practice about 1:40 tops. Forces you to be more efficient as a coach...I love it personally.
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