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Post by scarletandcream on Jan 8, 2018 14:50:22 GMT -6
What are your top three ways to build a team mentality in the off season? I am a coach at a small school that has traditionally struggled in football. We have a few good athletes but struggle to play together as a team. We only got a little kids program put together three years ago so the kids I have right now never had that growing up. Do you have anything special you do outside of the weight room to build a team first culture? We have a great weights program but are lacking in other areas. Thanks in advance for your time.
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Post by pistolwhipped on Jan 8, 2018 14:54:38 GMT -6
Monthly activity: JAN- CFB Bowl Party FEB- Bowling Party MAR- Ultimate Football contest APR- Mulch businesses or elderly around town MAY- Run in a 5K together
NOV- Rake leaves for businesses or elderly around town DEC- Attend a HS basketball game together
I'm just spit balling here...
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Post by carookie on Jan 8, 2018 18:18:30 GMT -6
What are your top three ways to build a team mentality in the off season? I am a coach at a small school that has traditionally struggled in football. We have a few good athletes but struggle to play together as a team. We only got a little kids program put together three years ago so the kids I have right now never had that growing up. Do you have anything special you do outside of the weight room to build a team first culture? We have a great weights program but are lacking in other areas. Thanks in advance for your time. I'm not doubting you, but am hoping to get more clarity on the bolded portion of your statement. What exactly do you mean you struggle to play together as a team? How exactly do you see this in a game (ie what specific negative instances take place that are indicative of not playing together as a team)?
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Post by okiepadokie on Jan 8, 2018 21:19:55 GMT -6
3D Coach by Jeff Duke. Spotlight time, team circle activities, accountability letter writing, peer to peer mentoring. The relational strategies changed the entire complexity of our team identity. Plus we worked the dog out of them in the weight room year round and in the summer. Nothing builds team better than sweat and sacrifice. If you don’t build brotherhood and respect, they’ll never play as a team. Make them speak and communicate with each other. It is a far more powerful tool than full team trips and other things where they can still hang with who they are comfortable with. Have them speak and look each other in the eye and say positive things abojt each other. You’ll be amazed what kids notice about their teammates once they start speaking. Buy the book, read it, use it.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 9, 2018 8:26:45 GMT -6
All this.
Then have parents who "get it" too.
Helps to have your staff on the same page. Helps to have all the other sport coaches in your school have the same mentality. So athletes go from one sport to the next and get the same message no matter what.
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Post by funkfriss on Jan 9, 2018 8:53:12 GMT -6
All this. Then have parents who "get it" too. Helps to have your staff on the same page. Helps to have all the other sport coaches in your school have the same mentality. So athletes go from one sport to the next and get the same message no matter what. This is huge. We struggle with kids from another sport because their coach doesn't require them to be at practice to play in games. Not kidding. They go out for football and realize they have to show up....and work hard, so they're out. And somehow this douche still has a coaching job....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 8:56:42 GMT -6
I don't know how you build it, but Jalen Hurts was the epitome of a team player last night. 25 and 2 as a starter for, playing in the national championship games, gets benched at halftime, and is the 1st one to celebrate with the freshman QB for each of the 3 touchdown passes as well as helping coach him up on the sideline.
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Post by fshamrock on Jan 9, 2018 9:42:42 GMT -6
I don't know how you build it, but Jalen Hurts was the epitome of a team player last night. 25 and 2 as a starter for, playing in the national championship games, gets benched at halftime, and is the 1st one to celebrate with the freshman QB for each of the 3 touchdown passes as well as helping coach him up on the sideline. His dad is a coach and by all accounts a great guy. Before we start taking ourselves waaaay too seriously again, let's not forget that the character and type of teammates these kids are has a lot more to do with their background and upbringing than anything we do. Not trying to be a jerk, but let's not forget the other alabama kid who went after the coach on the sideline and was allowed back in the game. Not sure where that is in the Alabama "culture manual" as to the OP's question....I know of one good way to foster a team mentality, kick off a talented turd. It sends a message to the team that the rules apply across the board, it brings them together. I heard a story of a team this past season, two kids were pretty much doing whatever they wanted and showing up when they felt like it...they were eventually given some punishment to do but refused, said they would quit first....so the HC told them they could do less punishment if they didn't quit and situation was resolved members of the team approached the HC and told him that they would rather he allow the kids to quit......he refused and told them to worry about practicing harder and let him worry about who is on the team. Apparently that locker room was pretty toxic
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Post by seabass on Jan 9, 2018 14:37:45 GMT -6
I don't know how you build it, but Jalen Hurts was the epitome of a team player last night. 25 and 2 as a starter for, playing in the national championship games, gets benched at halftime, and is the 1st one to celebrate with the freshman QB for each of the 3 touchdown passes as well as helping coach him up on the sideline. His dad is a coach and by all accounts a great guy. Before we start taking ourselves waaaay too seriously again, let's not forget that the character and type of teammates these kids are has a lot more to do with their background and upbringing than anything we do. Not trying to be a jerk, but let's not forget the other alabama kid who went after the coach on the sideline and was allowed back in the game. Not sure where that is in the Alabama "culture manual" as to the OP's question....I know of one good way to foster a team mentality, kick off a talented turd. It sends a message to the team that the rules apply across the board, it brings them together. I heard a story of a team this past season, two kids were pretty much doing whatever they wanted and showing up when they felt like it...they were eventually given some punishment to do but refused, said they would quit first....so the HC told them they could do less punishment if they didn't quit and situation was resolved members of the team approached the HC and told him that they would rather he allow the kids to quit......he refused and told them to worry about practicing harder and let him worry about who is on the team. Apparently that locker room was pretty toxic I didn't know Hurt's dad is a coach but it was pretty obvious that he had been raised by some good people. My freshman son's comment was, "he sounds like a coaches kid."
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Post by 50slantstrong on Jan 9, 2018 23:58:36 GMT -6
I don’t have a list for you but our HC does a great job of making sure our kids understand the team mentality. One thing I’ve noticed - he never talks about himself, rather, he consistently talks about how players’ actions effect the team as a whole and not him. For example, “you cheating your reps on the weight room won’t effect me. Im not on the field playing next to you. It’s going to hurt all of these other guys who are doing all the reps they’re supposed to be doing, all of whom are trying to help you. Cheating reps isn’t lazy, its selfish”
I’ve also never heard him say “my” when talking about something other than his family. It’s always “our”.
I wish I could tell you some cool activities for you but I’m shooting blanks. But I do think it starts with the weight room and an emphasis about how this is a group and community program and how nobody under any circumstances is bigger than the program.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 10, 2018 7:53:05 GMT -6
Coaches model that by referring to their pos group as “our” not “my”. Our D Line as opposed to my DL.
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Post by scarletandcream on Jan 17, 2018 11:31:28 GMT -6
Thanks for the responses everyone. Does anyone have anything they specifically do to build team buy in or unity? Yes the way we talk about our programs is important, but does anyone do anything in the summer or spring to bond the team together more?
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Post by okiepadokie on Jan 17, 2018 19:32:43 GMT -6
Buy 3D Coach and read it. It contains numerous tangible strategies to achieve exactly what you are asking.
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Post by gators41 on Jan 18, 2018 12:18:05 GMT -6
What are your top three ways to build a team mentality in the off season? I am a coach at a small school that has traditionally struggled in football. We have a few good athletes but struggle to play together as a team. We only got a little kids program put together three years ago so the kids I have right now never had that growing up. Do you have anything special you do outside of the weight room to build a team first culture? We have a great weights program but are lacking in other areas. Thanks in advance for your time. Something I have been thinking about lately, and it doesnt really apply to us. But in the NFL for example. How can you build a team first mentality, when the organization or player can leave anytime. I mean it looks like the Patriots were thinking about trading Tom Brady. How can anyone have loyalty to the team, when the first sign of any trouble they get rid of you. So why wouldnt a player get theirs, whatever way they can, as soon as they can, however they can??? Just a thought I dont necessarily believe in it.
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Post by gators41 on Jan 18, 2018 12:33:46 GMT -6
I don't know how you build it, but Jalen Hurts was the epitome of a team player last night. 25 and 2 as a starter for, playing in the national championship games, gets benched at halftime, and is the 1st one to celebrate with the freshman QB for each of the 3 touchdown passes as well as helping coach him up on the sideline. His dad is a coach and by all accounts a great guy. Before we start taking ourselves waaaay too seriously again, let's not forget that the character and type of teammates these kids are has a lot more to do with their background and upbringing than anything we do. Not trying to be a jerk, but let's not forget the other alabama kid who went after the coach on the sideline and was allowed back in the game. Not sure where that is in the Alabama "culture manual" as to the OP's question....I know of one good way to foster a team mentality, kick off a talented turd. It sends a message to the team that the rules apply across the board, it brings them together. I heard a story of a team this past season, two kids were pretty much doing whatever they wanted and showing up when they felt like it...they were eventually given some punishment to do but refused, said they would quit first....so the HC told them they could do less punishment if they didn't quit and situation was resolved members of the team approached the HC and told him that they would rather he allow the kids to quit......he refused and told them to worry about practicing harder and let him worry about who is on the team. Apparently that locker room was pretty toxic Crazy what we may do for job security and I hope that is why the HC did that. It doesnt make it right, but if you are on the hotseat and you have to feed your family, you really find out about your values. What about a new, young coach who got a job over his station, and if he fails he is out (Seen it, guy had 1 year) What about your values then, when 2 turds do this. You have to out think them. I know what I am saying sounds terrible, but you know some people have to be thinking that
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Post by eaglemountie on Jan 18, 2018 18:49:50 GMT -6
A consistent positive message/expectation that is consistently reinforced by the HC down through the ACs/Parents to the seniors, etc. etc.
You set the stage and mental framework for how things are done as a unit and how individuals within that unit can positively contribute within their roles...
Once the groundwork for this team theme/mentality or culture is laid through focused hard work, consistent discipline and team building exercises... The rest is cake...
Have a plan, work the plan and make changes as needed...
Consistent message, consistent delivery, consistent progress... IMO
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Post by lions23 on Jan 22, 2018 16:07:23 GMT -6
I think you have to have very clear messaging. Whatever your values are promote those and promote the why.
All athletes have a degree of task orientation and Ego orientation. You have to find a way to promote the task orientation in order to motivate your players. Task being mastery of task and Ego being being better than others. Most team sport participants are naturally more task driven already. Like anything in your program you have to sell it and it helps to have some success. Also it helps to develop some player autonomy when developing your task orientation. Give them some room to make some decisions that aren't real consequential for the program-chose weight room music, auxiliary lift choice, 7 on 7 unis. Put the players in leadership positions who have developed task mastery and let them teach the others how to do a lift or drill.
The players need to see the vision and mission. You have to sell it and model it. You can't sell team if you are a dictator. Let them take some ownership over parts of the program or include them in decision making. All the way back to Maslow once people have their basic needs taken care of they want to make connections and they want to know their input and sweat equity are valued.
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Post by vanden48 on Jan 25, 2018 8:00:51 GMT -6
I have kids reading Jeff Janssen's Team Captains Leadership Manual. They are reading it in small groups of 3. We meet and talk about it. When they are done they will give the book to another teammate of their choice and invite them to talk about it. The coaches and I are also reading Jeff Janssen's Seven Secrets to Successful Coaches, and Building a Championship Culture.
I think coaches character development is very overlooked. We need assistants that will model the behavior we expect from our players. And Janssen's books are a short easy read, and it puts things in perspective. There are a ton of good books out there with big time coaches names on them. I have found Janssen's books to be the most relate-able and they have a ton of ideas to use.
Don't just focus on the kids though, your assistant coaches can have a much greater impact, and you just need to communicate your expectations for them clearly and make sure you also show your appreciation for them.
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Post by lions23 on Jan 25, 2018 8:54:39 GMT -6
I have kids reading Jeff Janssen's Team Captains Leadership Manual. They are reading it in small groups of 3. We meet and talk about it. When they are done they will give the book to another teammate of their choice and invite them to talk about it. The coaches and I are also reading Jeff Janssen's Seven Secrets to Successful Coaches, and Building a Championship Culture. I think coaches character development is very overlooked. We need assistants that will model the behavior we expect from our players. And Janssen's books are a short easy read, and it puts things in perspective. There are a ton of good books out there with big time coaches names on them. I have found Janssen's books to be the most relate-able and they have a ton of ideas to use. Don't just focus on the kids though, your assistant coaches can have a much greater impact, and you just need to communicate your expectations for them clearly and make sure you also show your appreciation for them. I wholeheartedly agree those guys are spreading your mission and vision as much probably more than you. Better coach them up.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Jan 25, 2018 9:04:08 GMT -6
Do you have any outdoor education programs near your area? These types of groups are all about team building through deliberate initiatives designed to first get comfortable/understand one another and then what to do to communicate when things are going right and when they are going wrong. The critical piece to the event lies in the debriefing of it afterward. You could observe what an organization does on the first days of bringing new groups together. Every group has the potential for four stages of development. There is Forming (getting together, everyone's on their best behavior because it's "new"), Storming (the rise of conflict and pushback, testing boundaries, etc.), Norming (groups begin to accept the various members of the group, respect the boundaries, etc.) and Performing (ideally, achievement toward stated common goals). Not all teams get to performing and often teams will digress as they progress. www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newLDR_86.htmen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuckman%27s_stages_of_group_development
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Post by vanden48 on Jan 25, 2018 9:57:25 GMT -6
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