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Post by Coach Goodnight on Jan 6, 2018 11:15:14 GMT -6
if you have a player that is struggling, do you require them to go to study hall or do you hold a study hall and invite teachers to help out? How do you handle that?
Also do you do a weekly grade check sheet? If so what all do you ask for on that sheet? grades, missing work, classroom behavior, etc?
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 6, 2018 12:05:20 GMT -6
@coachgoodnight
back before we had the software to be able to see a kids grades on the spot (PowerSchool) we had a Xeroxed sheet that they kids had to get filled out. It basically had a box for each period, the kids filled in the class and teacher name for each box. There were just a couple of things that the teacher had to check off
-tardy to class Yes/No
-sits in front of class Y/N
-turned in homework Y/N
-Quiz test this week Y/N
-current grade ____
the kids had to ask the teacher nicely, at an appropriate time (beginning/end of class/etc... not while the teacher was doing a lesson, etc..) then they had to bring it and turn it in. We put the onus on them to get it done and turned in. We also let the teachers know ahead of time so they wouldn't be surprised and so they knew the expectations.
Now we just look at PowerSchool and we get it instantly, plus we can print a report if we need.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Jan 6, 2018 12:12:08 GMT -6
@coachgoodnight back before we had the software to be able to see a kids grades on the spot (PowerSchool) we had a Xeroxed sheet that they kids had to get filled out. It basically had a box for each period, the kids filled in the class and teacher name for each box. There were just a couple of things that the teacher had to check off -tardy to class Yes/No -sits in front of class Y/N -turned in homework Y/N -Quiz test this week Y/N -current grade ____ the kids had to ask the teacher nicely, at an appropriate time (beginning/end of class/etc... not while the teacher was doing a lesson, etc..) then they had to bring it and turn it in. We put the onus on them to get it done and turned in. We also let the teachers know ahead of time so they wouldn't be surprised and so they knew the expectations. Now we just look at PowerSchool and we get it instantly, plus we can print a report if we need. But do you think that if we had kids get their grades, etc like mentioned, it would make them feel more accountable? It seems like we would be making life easy for the kids if we just did it for them. Then they will know their grade and what they need to do. Most kids have no idea what their grade is in a class unless they are failing, then they are put on an eligibility list and this is when they usually take notice of their grades. |
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Post by carookie on Jan 6, 2018 12:12:11 GMT -6
I find out why they are specifically struggling then I craft a program to best fit their needs. Usually the problem is that the kid is not turning in work or they don't take notes.
The school has a grade check sheet that all athletics utilize, but it just shows if a kid is struggling and not why.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 6, 2018 12:14:04 GMT -6
@coachgoodnight back before we had the software to be able to see a kids grades on the spot (PowerSchool) we had a Xeroxed sheet that they kids had to get filled out. It basically had a box for each period, the kids filled in the class and teacher name for each box. There were just a couple of things that the teacher had to check off -tardy to class Yes/No -sits in front of class Y/N -turned in homework Y/N -Quiz test this week Y/N -current grade ____ the kids had to ask the teacher nicely, at an appropriate time (beginning/end of class/etc... not while the teacher was doing a lesson, etc..) then they had to bring it and turn it in. We put the onus on them to get it done and turned in. We also let the teachers know ahead of time so they wouldn't be surprised and so they knew the expectations. Now we just look at PowerSchool and we get it instantly, plus we can print a report if we need. But do you think that if we had kids get their grades, etc like mentioned, it would make them feel more accountable? It seems like we would be making life easy for the kids if we just did it for them. Then they will know their grade and what they need to do. Most kids have no idea what their grade is in a class unless they are failing, then they are put on an eligibility list and this is when they usually take notice of their grades. certainly that was part of the impetus for the way we did it, plus they knew they would be held accountable |
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Jan 6, 2018 12:23:42 GMT -6
But do you think that if we had kids get their grades, etc like mentioned, it would make them feel more accountable? It seems like we would be making life easy for the kids if we just did it for them. Then they will know their grade and what they need to do. Most kids have no idea what their grade is in a class unless they are failing, then they are put on an eligibility list and this is when they usually take notice of their grades. certainly that was part of the impetus for the way we did it, plus they knew they would be held accountable And that’s why I would do it... I am looking into these things for future use. I want to be a HC at some point and am trying to gather thoughts, ideas, etc that would be useful for building a program. One thing I am wanting to do in this quest is put build a program that is based of a family philosophy. Part of it will be similar to the part in Remember the Titans where kids who don’t know each other are grouped up and held accountable for getting to know each other, but also it wil go beyond the field into the classroom. Making sure our family members are acting right in class, in the hallways, if they are struggling in the classroom, help each other out. I think if a team learns to rely on each other off the field it will/could help them on their field as well, knowing they can trust their brothers. |
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Post by oldman61 on Jan 6, 2018 12:40:48 GMT -6
Program we use gives parents the opportunity to log on and see kids grades anytime they want. Kids also have a log in they can use
We check kids grades so WE know what they are and hold accountable as needed, but we also take a minute before weights once a week and have kids get phones out, log on and check grades themselves too.
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Post by aceback76 on Jan 6, 2018 12:55:40 GMT -6
if you have a player that is struggling, do you require them to go to study hall or do you hold a study hall and invite teachers to help out? How do you handle that? Also do you do a weekly grade check sheet? If so what all do you ask for on that sheet? grades, missing work, classroom behavior, etc? Our Weekly Grade Sheet includes: 1. INSTRUCTOR 2. COURSE 3. GRADE & COMMENT 4. ATTITUDE 5. ABSENCES We give our players a 23 page "Academic Playbook". There is no way I can include it here, nor send it, but I will list our "Table of Contents": 1. Letter From Coach 2. Purpose of Academic Playbook 3. Academic Requirements 4. Academic Counselor & Student Development Center 5. Academic Procedures and Policies 6. Football Study Hall 7. Football Tutorial Program 8. Scholar Athletes 9. Forms (includes: Schedule Planning Worksheet, Class Schedule, Study Contract, Class Progress Report, Time Management Sheet). 10. Poem (The Guy in the Glass). PS: Any questions anyone has = PHONE me to discuss! |
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 6, 2018 15:02:21 GMT -6
We had study hall on Thursdays and teachers could either come in or write a pass for students to come to their room. It worked well.
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Post by aceback76 on Jan 6, 2018 16:42:26 GMT -6
We had study hall on Thursdays and teachers could either come in or write a pass for students to come to their room. It worked well. "Man cannot survive except through his mind. He comes to earth unarmed. His brain is his only weapon. His brain is his only weapon. Everything we have comes from a single attribute of man - - - the function of a reasoning mind." We have our players sign (& live up to a "Study Contract". |
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Post by s73 on Jan 6, 2018 17:38:58 GMT -6
if you have a player that is struggling, do you require them to go to study hall or do you hold a study hall and invite teachers to help out? How do you handle that? Also do you do a weekly grade check sheet? If so what all do you ask for on that sheet? grades, missing work, classroom behavior, etc? For what it's worth when I have players struggling I call them discuss it with them & then email there parents that they will be in jeopardy of being academically ineligible the following season if they don't meet "X" standard. That has gotten me some decent results. Many times I find the parents are not only unaware of the poor grades but also unaware that Spring semester grades determines fall eligibility (at our school anyway). |
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Post by carookie on Jan 6, 2018 22:54:34 GMT -6
If it is your goal to get the kids eligible then I think you really have to be the best educator on campus.
I had a kid this past year who was failing multiple classes, dad knew it but couldnt fix it and would always contact me about it but couldnt fix it. So I, as the HC, had to solve it (well that or let him not be eligible). His science grade was awful because he never turned in his homework. So I created a homework tracking sheet in which he would write down in detail what was assigned for homework every day and have his teacher sign it; then before practice he would show me the assignment and the progress he made, he would show his dad the completed work by the end of the night.
History, he was all over the map, and didn't know the info he needed. So I met with the teacher and found out what specifically she was looking for on her tests. I then devised a note taking procedure which better focused on what he needed to be successful in the class that required reflections every evening- he would show these to me too.
Grades went up, kid stayed eligible. For the most part many teachers are just there throwing information at students moreso than teaching; adhering to the ideology that it is ' their job to teach and the students job to learn'. So it is, students are either not taught how to study and learn in general, or not adequately instructed in content. If it is our goal to improve grades, then we need to do more than just point out when students are failing and basically tell them to "do better". We need to teach them how to do better, show them how, and enforce those methods.
Now, here is the question- did I do too much for this kid? Should I just left him to figure it out on his own? Was I doing him a disservice by doing as much as I did to help solve his problem? I would argue 'no', but thats another discussion.
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Post by option1 on Jan 7, 2018 6:33:39 GMT -6
Accountability is going to be the largest part of whatever grade monitoring procedure you adhere to. It's great if they monitor themselves and each other but it's also not always realistic. In the grand scheme of things what you really have over them, your best tool, is the team and playing time. Are you willing to make things uncomfortable for them, and maybe even possibly remove them if they cannot follow suit?
In the early days of electronic grade monitoring (we use Edsby) we still also had the players take around grade sheets every Thursday. We had a teacher that assigned a specific grade to one of our players each week. He then gave the student a much, much lower grade on his report card. Needless to say our HC kept these on file for the semester and he was able to get the players grade changed to show an average between his weekly reports and his final grade, which I thought was still unfair. Anyway, per our admin. we are no longer permitted to send the grade sheets around on a weekly basis. We have to set up a team account in Edsby to track the players.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 7, 2018 9:51:46 GMT -6
I used our online system to check grades every day during the season and every week in the off-season. Really slick how Campus lets you run reports. It did not take long.
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Post by dsealey on Jan 26, 2018 15:44:57 GMT -6
I think I saw it on here a long time ago. I give the kids a sheet every Monday. All it says is .... [Has this student done everything he can do to be successful in your class ? Each teacher is to put yes or no. Yes, means extra something (up to team captains) every day that week. Pretty simple. I make them sign and date it. A missed signature or date is a no from me. I cannot believe how many kids do not know how to sign their name.
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Post by conrad81 on Jan 27, 2018 21:32:04 GMT -6
I have a template with much of what everyone has previously mentioned. Can't post it now without my jump drive.
I like the idea of the kids having an actual paper for teachers to initial/sign. It puts the onus on them and holds them accountable. I do this for every player during the season - also brings faculty into the program. They hand it in weekly - Thursday night before pre-game practice. During the off-season, only for kids having issues. If they are failing - they have study hall instead of workouts, speak with parents and highlight consequences of poor grades - ineligiblity, teammates down, college prospects, etc.
I emphasize academics as much as football.
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