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Post by famar on Nov 24, 2017 22:00:39 GMT -6
I was just curious to see how many states still have Thanksgiving games. We do in New Jersey, although it's not as big a deal as it used to be 25-30 years ago.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 24, 2017 22:26:46 GMT -6
I was just curious to see how many states still have Thanksgiving games. We do in New Jersey, although it's not as big a deal as it used to be 25-30 years ago. Living in Louisiana, I had never heard of these things until this board. For us, Thanksgiving week is almost always the quaterfinals week of the playoffs (up until the split playoff system, now it is the quarters for some, semis for others) I found it incredible that teams in other places would interrupt the playoffs to have a thanksgiving day game
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Post by famar on Nov 24, 2017 22:46:55 GMT -6
I was just curious to see how many states still have Thanksgiving games. We do in New Jersey, although it's not as big a deal as it used to be 25-30 years ago. Living in Louisiana, I had never heard of these things until this board. For us, Thanksgiving week is almost always the quaterfinals week of the playoffs (up until the split playoff system, now it is the quarters for some, semis for others) I found it incredible that teams in other places would interrupt the playoffs to have a thanksgiving day gameThat's New Jersey, and in some parts of Pennsylvania as well. I can't speak totally for Pennsylvania as I have never coached there, but in New Jersey, we start our season a bit later than most as the season opener for most teams is the weekend after Labor Day (some open Labor Day weekend), and we don't have state championships. We've had two weeks of playoffs, Thanksgiving for those teams that still have Thanksgiving games, and the sectional finals are next weekend.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 25, 2017 8:18:34 GMT -6
They are big in eastern PA but non-existent in western PA. Must be an east coast/New England area thing. I remember a few years ago I think it was Easton PA who was still alive in the state playoffs and still played their Thanksgiving day game before a state semi-final on Saturday. The majority opinion by the community was the Thanksgiving day game was more important than a state playoff game.
These days, and I guess the tradition/culture plays a huge part, I would be worried that having 3-4 weeks off before a Thanksgiving day game would lead to kids just being AWOL or not showing. But like I said some places take it very seriously so...
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Post by stilltryin on Nov 25, 2017 10:32:27 GMT -6
Thanksgiving football is still a very big deal in our little town in New Jersey ... a parade down Main St. the night before the game with the band, cheerleaders, fire companies from seven towns around, folks lining the sidewalks all the way to the bonfire/pep rally ... and another SRO crowd the next day at the game. And, yes, we've played lots of years five days after a sectional semi-final, and then gone on to win the whole thing the following week.
It's been my experience that the folks who don't understand that kind of tradition are mostly those who have never had it.
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 25, 2017 19:10:00 GMT -6
We do. We have one of the oldest in the country. Started in 1910 or so I beleive. I know for sure we are the oldest interstate rivalry and because we use to meet twice a year back in the day we have the most meetings between two teams. We have played eachother 158 times.
Safe to say it's a HUGE deal here!
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Post by freezeoption on Nov 26, 2017 9:49:03 GMT -6
Webster Groves and Kirkwood play each other on Thanksgiving day. If one of the two teams make it to state, which is the weekend after thanksgiving then the jv play each other. They give up a regular season game to play this game, technically in our state you can still practice and play games till the state championship is over.
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Post by ahall005 on Nov 26, 2017 13:08:23 GMT -6
how do places with thanksgiving day games handle kids that play basketball? They just miss the game?
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Post by coachtua on Nov 26, 2017 14:14:26 GMT -6
In California day after Thanksgiving games are usually semi finals of section playoffs...
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 26, 2017 14:17:06 GMT -6
how do places with thanksgiving day games handle kids that play basketball? They just miss the game? Our Winter Sports season starts the Monday after Thanksgiving. Only time players would miss any basketball is if we made it to the state championship game which is played the following weekend.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 26, 2017 14:28:12 GMT -6
how do places with thanksgiving day games handle kids that play basketball? They just miss the game? Our Winter Sports season starts the Monday after Thanksgiving. Only time players would miss any basketball is if we made it to the state championship game which is played the following weekend. So they don't start practice for Basketball until after Thanksgiving?
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 26, 2017 14:29:02 GMT -6
Our Winter Sports season starts the Monday after Thanksgiving. Only time players would miss any basketball is if we made it to the state championship game which is played the following weekend. So they don't start practice for Basketball until after Thanksgiving? That's correct. That's just how our state is. Winter Sports officially begin for everyone the Monday after.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 26, 2017 15:02:58 GMT -6
We haven’t started winter sports games yet, season has started but no games yet.
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Post by freezeoption on Nov 26, 2017 15:13:27 GMT -6
If your kids are in the playoffs, practice for football counts as practice for bball, of course they may not no what the heck is going on but they will have met their practices
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 26, 2017 15:15:59 GMT -6
Mass has it and I think it is still a big deal..
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Post by olinecoach61 on Nov 27, 2017 8:31:15 GMT -6
Connecticut still plays on Thanksgiving although more and more teams are moving to earlier in the week.
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 27, 2017 8:35:11 GMT -6
Connecticut still plays on Thanksgiving although more and more teams are moving to earlier in the week. What parts of CT? I follow CT football pretty closely and I didn't notice any drop in games on Thanksgiving. It's hard to play your thanksgiving day game earlier in the week because it would affect your previous week's game. Most teams in CT play their last regular season game the Thursday before Thanksgiving giving them a the 5 days rest needed before you can play again.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Nov 27, 2017 8:50:07 GMT -6
Connecticut still plays on Thanksgiving although more and more teams are moving to earlier in the week. What parts of CT? I follow CT football pretty closely and I didn't notice any drop in games on Thanksgiving. It's hard to play your thanksgiving day game earlier in the week because it would affect your previous week's game. Most teams in CT play their last regular season game the Thursday before Thanksgiving giving them a the 5 days rest needed before you can play again. North Central CT - most of the state went to a bye week the Saturday before Thanksgiving. I count 21 games played before Thanksgiving, 41 on Thanksgiving. I think its a trend in CT for sure.
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Post by bobgoodman on Nov 27, 2017 8:59:40 GMT -6
These days, and I guess the tradition/culture plays a huge part, I would be worried that having 3-4 weeks off before a Thanksgiving day game would lead to kids just being AWOL or not showing. That's something I never thought of. This is a function of football season's starting & ending several weeks earlier now in HS than when I was a student. Partly that's because academic calendars have shifted to earlier in the fall, but it's also because of the ridiculous amount of playoffs they've instituted. It used to be that Thanksgiving or thereabouts seemed like a natural end point to football (and/or soccer & cross-country) season, and a playoff was such a rarity that you'd deal with that as needed. Back a century and a half, Thanksgiving Day was the traditional end of baseball season! So there's long been this idea of Thanksgiving, a day of festivity, as the close of outdoor sports for the year. Even the accounts of the Pilgrims' thanksgiving celebr'n, which supposedly started the tradition and was an affair of several days, included a variety of sports & gaming. Other thanksgivings of that age occurred in springtime and celebrated survival thru the winter, and probably included the opening of outdoor sports.
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Post by spos21ram on Nov 27, 2017 9:01:37 GMT -6
These days, and I guess the tradition/culture plays a huge part, I would be worried that having 3-4 weeks off before a Thanksgiving day game would lead to kids just being AWOL or not showing. That's something I never thought of. This is a function of football season's starting & ending several weeks earlier now in HS than when I was a student. Partly that's because academic calendars have shifted to earlier in the fall, but it's also because of the ridiculous amount of playoffs they've instituted. It used to be that Thanksgiving or thereabouts seemed like a natural end point to football (and/or soccer & cross-country) season, and a playoff was such a rarity that you'd deal with that as needed. Back a century and a half, Thanksgiving Day was the traditional end of baseball season! So there's long been this idea of Thanksgiving, a day of festivity, as the close of outdoor sports for the year. Even the accounts of the Pilgrims' thanksgiving celebr'n, which supposedly started the tradition and was an affair of several days, included a variety of sports & gaming. Other thanksgivings of that age occurred in springtime and celebrated survival thru the winter, and probably included the opening of outdoor sports. This is where football varies depending on where you are. Around here we play right up to thanksgiving so theres no multiple weeks off in between.
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Post by famar on Nov 27, 2017 20:09:57 GMT -6
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Post by jrk5150 on Nov 28, 2017 12:31:52 GMT -6
Still a huge deal in MA.
MIAA has screwed around with the playoffs lately and it has put a bit of a damper on Thanksgiving, but it's still big. Example - in 2013 and 2014, our local HS played their Thanksgiving Day rival - going back over 100 years - 5 times. Regular season and Thanksgiving in 2013, then regular season, playoffs and Thanksgiving in 2014. It was the most ridiculous thing ever. And incredibly gut wrenching in 2014, as the other team's captain died in a car accident the week before they played the first time, and he had played youth football in our town. Tore the hearts out of both locker rooms, and they had to play 3 f*cking times that year.
We start the weekend after Labor Day. Play 7 games to qualify for playoffs, and then playoffs start week 8. Play 2-3 rounds of playoffs to get to the "Super Bowl" (state title game), which is played the week AFTER Thanksgiving (meaning this coming weekend). If you don't make playoffs or lose, you continue to play consolation type games through Thanksgiving to round out your schedule. So generally your season is 7 games plus Thanksgiving, and then 2-3 other games TBD depending on what happens.
Also presents an interesting dilemma where you have 100 year rivalries played a week before the state championship game. I've seen teams send out their JV team on turkey day and get pounded. Which kind of sucks if you have designs on an undefeated season. And I've seen teams play it straight and lose key players to injuries and then lose the state title the following week.
Frankly, it kind of sucks. Geniuses at MIAA came up with this.
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 28, 2017 12:51:35 GMT -6
Still a huge deal in MA. MIAA has screwed around with the playoffs lately and it has put a bit of a damper on Thanksgiving, but it's still big. Example - in 2013 and 2014, our local HS played their Thanksgiving Day rival - going back over 100 years - 5 times. Regular season and Thanksgiving in 2013, then regular season, playoffs and Thanksgiving in 2014. It was the most ridiculous thing ever. And incredibly gut wrenching in 2014, as the other team's captain died in a car accident the week before they played the first time, and he had played youth football in our town. Tore the hearts out of both locker rooms, and they had to play 3 f*cking times that year. We start the weekend after Labor Day. Play 7 games to qualify for playoffs, and then playoffs start week 8. Play 2-3 rounds of playoffs to get to the "Super Bowl" (state title game), which is played the week AFTER Thanksgiving (meaning this coming weekend). If you don't make playoffs or lose, you continue to play consolation type games through Thanksgiving to round out your schedule. So generally your season is 7 games plus Thanksgiving, and then 2-3 other games TBD depending on what happens. Also presents an interesting dilemma where you have 100 year rivalries played a week before the state championship game. I've seen teams send out their JV team on turkey day and get pounded. Which kind of sucks if you have designs on an undefeated season. And I've seen teams play it straight and lose key players to injuries and then lose the state title the following week. Frankly, it kind of sucks. Geniuses at MIAA came up with this. right you have to play a league game, a turkey day game, and possibly a playoff game..so stupid
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