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Post by beatty on Mar 11, 2006 18:48:17 GMT -6
Ok coaches... I joined this forum because I need help with something really, really badly. I just got my first head coaching job. I took the job with the condition that I do not have the final say in who I hire as my assistant coaches. There are seven coaching positions available in grades 7-12. All seven of them are teachers in the buidling that told the athletic director that they don't care if I want them or not, they are coaching next year. Four of these coaches are completely disloyal, and I know this because I talked to the THREE former head coaches at this school before taking the position. I can't get rid of these guys. Tell me what I need to do... Keep two things in mind... 1. I just got hired--I can't quit. So if any of you want me to do that I can't. 2. I am allowed to hire as many volunteers as I want.
Tell me how I can make this work.
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Post by cobra1990 on Mar 11, 2006 20:30:54 GMT -6
How can you Know these guys will be disloyal to you. You are a different guy. It sounds like you are getting the cart before the horse. Maybe these guys felt like they didn't get a fair shake with the coaches before you. I really don't know what to tell you except don't push the panic button to quick. Give It a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2006 20:56:10 GMT -6
I agree with Cobra with this addition, if they said they're coaching whether you want them or not it sounds like they're either expecting confrontation or looking for it. Maybe they do just want a fair shake, but to be on your guard I would say that since you don't have a say if they coach or not, can you have a say at which level they coach? Make it known you want to meet with each of them to talk philosophy, scheme, etc. If you're going to be forced to ram heads with some of them, you can place them where it doesn't have to have as great of an effect. I would give them the benefit of the doubt, but wouldn't make staff assignments until you'd talked at great length with all of them.
And nothing personal against the former coaches, but they'll have a unique point of view as well. A lot could weigh in on why they didn't jive with a certain guy. Good luck.
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Post by bucky on Mar 11, 2006 21:48:05 GMT -6
Sounds like the problem is not the coaches, it is the AD. Why would it be in the best interest of a program that the assistant coaches tell the AD what they will or won't do? I would have a real heart to heart talk with the AD about his (or her) decision to NOT back a head coaches decision on his coaching staff. I agree with the others. Make your own decisions after your first year about your staff. If in fact it's true, big meeting with the AD and it should be either /or and nothing else. Otherwise you will never have success or enjoyment.
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Post by airman on Mar 11, 2006 23:50:56 GMT -6
i would talk to each coach and see what there feelings are.
see what they think. if you can get a win win situation for all involved.
it is about the kids.
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Post by knighter on Mar 12, 2006 0:28:38 GMT -6
If you have to coach short handed. we nealy had it here, had he not resigned i had a guy 3 years ago that i would have had school pay to stay home for a year. luckily it did not come to that.
if i had been in your situation i would not have accepted the position, but you did, now you have to make the best of it it somehow. maybe these guys will be loyal to you, maybe they were not repected by former hfc's, or former hfc's were total control freaks that allowed them no responsiblity....
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Post by mike13 on Mar 13, 2006 13:58:46 GMT -6
Beaty
You are in a tough situation. First try to win their favor by asking them what they want to coach. Make them feel important and they may become loyal. If you can't win their favor remember; "Keep your friends close and your ememies closer." those that don't see it your way keep them where you can watch them. Don't let them poison your feeder program.
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Post by edwardslv on Mar 14, 2006 14:31:57 GMT -6
As a relatively new head coach I can empathize, but not fully relate, so take this for what it's worth.
Step 1: Let everyone begin w/ a blank slate and try to win them over. Take your time and talk w/ each of them privately. Do not put too much stock in what the previous head coaches say. Their agenda can be skewed.
Step 2: If you can't win them over then run them off. It might take a year or two to get it how you want it, but be patient.
In the mean time, remember what mike13 said: "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." Do not, I repeat, do NOT put the problem coaches in a position to corrupt your feeder programs. You'd be better off w/ a disloyal, undermining varsity coach than to have him at the middle school.
Also in the mean time, if you are really as concerned as you seem to be, you need to be talking to the administration about what can be done. You said you do not have the final say in who assists, but does that mean you do at least have a say?
Hang in there. Stay the course and in time it will all be worth it.
One more thing I have learned: When in doubt, go with your gut.
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Post by carson101 on Mar 14, 2006 23:04:46 GMT -6
Coach I agree if you make waves before you talk with these guys your in for a rough ride this season. Have a general meeting individually with each coach find some even keel with these guys measure their desire as a coach are their intentions to coach the kids or are they there for ego it will come out quickly. Then have a coaches meeting together. Its all about the kids and how they succeed under leadership. Good luck keep us posted.
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Post by edwardslv on Mar 16, 2006 9:44:36 GMT -6
beatty,
Any updates?
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Post by nohuddlecoach on Mar 16, 2006 11:13:00 GMT -6
split the disloyal coaches up as much and as far as possible, spell out every single move and responsibility they have on paper...., have them sign it. come up with a coaches manual, on how they are to act, coach, interact, etc....have them sign it, leave no grey area. Once all that is done, monitor their every move, if they fail to act according to what you have laid out for them , write them up and have it put in their personnel file, let them know indirectly you are going through the proper procedures to have them removed. They will either straighten up and do right or you'll have the paper work to have them removed. If they do straighten up, after a while you can go to work on building some relationships.
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Post by beatty on Mar 16, 2006 15:10:53 GMT -6
Guys, no updates, but I'm overwhelmed by the help. Thank you and keep it coming. No Huddle Coach, I love your advice!
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