Being forced out of a teaching job

I am in MN and teaching is almost always the first consideration. I can't speak for the way it is in your part of the country, but up here the AD can cut your coaching position, but can't touch your teaching position. I would talk to my union representative about it.

Well, since PE jobs are at a premium, and most coaches desire the PE jobs, i can see where it could hurt you. You are potentially keeping the school you are at from obtaining a coach (holding a PE position), while coaching for another school. I know I wouldn't be happy if I were the AD in that situation. Now, I don't know who has the political clout to get you out of that position.

Like the other guys have said, talk to your union rep. This guy can not do that. As much as we all love football, teaching is what pays the bills and should be in your school's eyes the top priority. When thinking about your teaching practice, do you consider yourself a good teacher? Is there somthing that you may be doing that is not right? I'm not attacking you-just playing devil's advocate. Teaching comes first, if I were you I would talk to the head principal about what this guy is doing to you.

i guess my question would be what are your teacher evals like? Cant see an AD firing a teacher because of coaching issues (its usually out of his jurisdiction any way) ...can see him firing a coach because he can't teach the skills needed, then yes...but the teaching position is always not part of the coaching package.

And, I feel for you, Coach Martin. I've lost my job as an English teacher based on the opinion of one parent who is pretty tight with or superintendent. It's not coaching related, but sometimes when people are out to get you, there isn't anything you can do about it.

Huwy, he's not just talking about his coaching job. He's also losing his teaching job.

Coach Martin,

I feel for you man, the situation you are in sucks, I just got done going through the same type of situation. They cut my teaching position, but I got a better job and get to play my old school in football next year.

My advice would be to get out if you can. If this guys hates you and is trying to get rid of you then he will more than likely talk you down and backstab you at any turn. It makes things a lot harder when you have to deal with garbage like that everyday.

The way it works here is the school board ultimately makes the decisions, based largely on advice from the principal and superintendent, so if they are on your side you should be safe. Unless the AD is good friends with school board members or the superintendent, they are the ultimate decision makers.

Coach Martin- I live in NY and teach/coach and am a Dept. Chair. I am sorry to hear of your plight. I would like to get some more info from you. 1) Is the AD also the director of Phys Ed.?
If so then he/she has direct supervisory responsibility over your teaching position. 2) Has this
person observed one of your classes? What was the write up like? 3) How have your other observations gone? 3) Check out the make up of the school board. what is their agenda? 4) Talk to your union rep and see if they can get some information for without filing a grievance. Usually the district will grease the skids by giving the teacher several negative evaluations to create a paper trail when they terminate an employee or give them a chance to resign. Good luck , I hope it works out for you.

I disagree. I've done it for 18 years. It's very common in some parts of the country. It's not ideal but it doesn't have to be a big problem.

I am not saying it won't work, I am saying the BEST situation is to teach and coach in the same district. More contact with your kids, more influence over their grades and behavior.

more contact with administrators, other teachers, ect...

as far as the dual contract thing goes..............
you are an AD/HC
you hired a guy who coaches three sports for you, thought he would do a good job
turns out he is a terrible coach, has no place in your program
you relieve him of his coaching but not teaching, how are you gonna fill his spot with a quality coach? No teaching spots open for the next year that the principal will allow coaching with. (no volunteers, not allowed by state athletics assoc.)
you have just become very short handed
dual contract are looking pretty good now!

been there, done that
its not fun
but, it is part of the job
if you fight hard enough and possibly take a lesser position you may be able to stay at your district
if you are on a standard dual contract the new AD still has to have documented reason to get rid of you. He can make your life hell. Such as scheduling a mandatory 530 am meeting everyday until you sign your resignation or reassigning you to JH girls volleyball.
All of this is crappy stuff, but its part of the career in a lot of places, especially here in TX
If you do not want to get stuck in that position, don't put yourself in the situation.

All I know is that when I become an AD/HC I will want the ability to get the right people in the places I need them. But, I will not go in and start cutting people out without first evaluating them.
As an AD/HC you have been hired to make your athletic program excel. If cutting out the deadwood is going to help your program succeed, then it needs to be done. But if you have a good coach allready there and that person is going to be loyal to you and your system, there is no reason to get rid of him.