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Post by nltdiego on Nov 26, 2016 19:12:50 GMT -6
What is your policy for a player informing you if he will miss practice???
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Post by hsrose on Nov 26, 2016 19:48:47 GMT -6
An 'opportunity' to get better. Lunges across her field and back doing high-ports with a PVC pipe 1/2 filled with water. Easy to do, not part of conditioning (which is good and never a punishment), obnoxious, and actually difficult since the water changes the balance point. Have to be completed prior to the game or they do sit. But if they do it's on them for not doing the Opportunity, not mom or the dentist or whatever. We don't take a quarter or anything because that affects the team when it is a player with the issue.
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Post by carookie on Nov 26, 2016 20:26:59 GMT -6
Depends on why he is missing
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Post by 19delta on Nov 26, 2016 21:48:41 GMT -6
Depends on why he is missing Yeah. I don't think that there is anything wrong with laying out a general expectation..."you are expected to be at every practice"...that kind of thing. And certainly, kids who are skipping practice simply because they don't want to be there need to be held accountable. Generally speaking, a loss of playing time is the best punishment. If you want to hang around after practice and make some slapdick who probably isn't good enough to play anyway do extra bear crawls or whatever other clever punishment you come up with, that's fine. But I'm going home to cold beer and a hot wife. You have to plan for the times kids miss because of legitimate reasons, not the illegitimate reasons. Family emergencies are probably the most common but there are other reasons that kids might not be able to be there. You're the adult. You're the coach. You were hired not only for your football knowledge but also for your ability to make wise decisions. You have to assess each situation on individual merits and act accordingly. And really, the kids will get it. For example, if you have a kid who has a death in the family and has to miss practice, the kids will understand why he isn't there and will have compassion for him and won't expect him to have any kind of punishment for not being there. Where coaches get themselves in trouble is when they make exceptions for players who miss practice for illegitimate reasons but get to play anyway because they are good. I coached for a program like that back in 2008 and it sucked. And so did the team! |
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Post by nltdiego on Nov 26, 2016 22:13:25 GMT -6
How do players inform coach?
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Post by coachphillip on Nov 26, 2016 23:28:10 GMT -6
Either by phone call or in person. We don't get bothered too much so long as they communicate what's going on. The issue with them is owning up to missing. They'll say they forgot or say they told so and so to tell us because they don't want to stand there and take heat for whatever their excuse is. There's been plenty of them who don't end up missing after we talk to them. But, the punishment is always far worse for missing without communicating. Typically a substantial loss of playing time.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Nov 27, 2016 1:31:45 GMT -6
Missing practice, depending on the reason, may be excusable if it's communicated (had a LB miss Friday's practice because Mom's car broke down and couldn't get a ride).
Missing practice and not communicating it can be a death sentence where you get buried at the bottom of the depth chart. We're BRUTAL to them if they do that- guilt trip, never stop talking about it, "break our trust" etc... I basically want them to feel like a d!ck for missing and never want to do that again. Peer pressure can be a huge help here.
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Post by nltdiego on Nov 27, 2016 9:29:50 GMT -6
We do email and I think it allows kids to hide that way. May say has to be in person.
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Post by tmtfootball on Nov 27, 2016 9:54:47 GMT -6
Must communicate with their position coach about missing. E-mail, phone, text, etc.
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Post by coachphillip on Nov 27, 2016 10:47:28 GMT -6
I don't like email or text at ALL. They need to be able to speak to me in their own voice. A big part of that is for when they get older and need to face the music. Too many kids nowadays live in a world where they can't communicate unless it's impersonal. I don't like it.
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Post by aceback76 on Nov 27, 2016 10:56:21 GMT -6
What is your policy for a player informing you if he will miss practice??? That is our #1 method for installing discipline on the team. If you let them get by missing practice, ALL IS LOST. NOTE: I'm talking about High School age: 1. After the FIRST unexcused miss = they have a lot of extra running, OR, (if you prefer) sit out the next game. 2. After the SECOND unexcused miss = we take up the uniform for the rest of the season. This may seem severe, but it has WORKED FOR US!!! Others may extend the "death penalty" to the THIRD miss. THE MAIN THING IS THAT YOU NEVER ISSUE A RULE YOU WON'T ENFORCE!!! |
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Post by nltdiego on Nov 27, 2016 11:01:21 GMT -6
I don't like email or text at ALL. They need to be able to speak to me in their own voice. A big part of that is for when they get older and need to face the music. Too many kids nowadays live in a world where they can't communicate unless it's impersonal. I don't like it. What if home sick? |
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Post by nltdiego on Nov 27, 2016 11:01:51 GMT -6
What is your policy for a player informing you if he will miss practice??? That is our #1 method for installing discipline on the team. If you let them get by missing practice, ALL IS LOST. NOTE: I'm talking about High School age: 1. After the FIRST unexcused miss = they have a lot of extra running, OR, (if you prefer) sit out the next game. 2. After the SECOND unexcused miss = we take up the uniform for the rest of the season. This may seem severe, but it has WORKED FOR US!!! Others may extend the "death penalty" to the THIRD miss. THE MAIN THING IS THAT YOU NEVER ISSUE A RULE YOU WON'T ENFORCE!!! What is considered excused? |
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Post by coachphillip on Nov 27, 2016 11:28:32 GMT -6
I don't like email or text at ALL. They need to be able to speak to me in their own voice. A big part of that is for when they get older and need to face the music. Too many kids nowadays live in a world where they can't communicate unless it's impersonal. I don't like it. What if home sick? That's why phone calls are fine. Just needs to be them speaking to me directly. |
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Post by aceback76 on Nov 27, 2016 11:52:25 GMT -6
That is our #1 method for installing discipline on the team. If you let them get by missing practice, ALL IS LOST. NOTE: I'm talking about High School age: 1. After the FIRST unexcused miss = they have a lot of extra running, OR, (if you prefer) sit out the next game. 2. After the SECOND unexcused miss = we take up the uniform for the rest of the season. This may seem severe, but it has WORKED FOR US!!! Others may extend the "death penalty" to the THIRD miss. THE MAIN THING IS THAT YOU NEVER ISSUE A RULE YOU WON'T ENFORCE!!! What is considered excused? "EXCUSED" = they notify me in ADVANCE, and there is either illness or emergency. I have MY way of handling this, & others can do theirs. |
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Post by 19delta on Nov 27, 2016 13:13:05 GMT -6
THE MAIN THING IS THAT YOU NEVER ISSUE A RULE YOU WON'T ENFORCE!!! This is great advice on so many levels! |
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Post by 19delta on Nov 27, 2016 13:20:34 GMT -6
I don't like email or text at ALL. They need to be able to speak to me in their own voice. A big part of that is for when they get older and need to face the music. Too many kids nowadays live in a world where they can't communicate unless it's impersonal. I don't like it. I generally agree with this. I do think you need to leave the door cracked open for some extraordinary circumstance but I don't think it is unreasonable to expect direct contact (phone call or speaking to a coach). |
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Post by 53 on Nov 27, 2016 13:57:18 GMT -6
THE MAIN THING IS THAT YOU NEVER ISSUE A RULE YOU WON'T ENFORCE!!! This is great advice on so many levels! Never paint yourself into a corner as a coach. |
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Post by carookie on Nov 27, 2016 14:31:13 GMT -6
I don't like email or text at ALL. They need to be able to speak to me in their own voice. A big part of that is for when they get older and need to face the music. Too many kids nowadays live in a world where they can't communicate unless it's impersonal. I don't like it. I want to second this 100%. I have an anecdote that is somewhat different but I feel echoes the sentiments. I worked for a HC who had a rule that if you were going to miss or BE LATE to practice you had to text him. It was this being late yet being excused completely that got to me. If I am running late to work I would obviously contact work to let them know so coverage could be found; but that does not make it okay for me to be late- even if it was due to traffic there should be repercussions. What happened in out circumstance was that kids would be late, and just text that they were running late and all was well. Eventually some players figured this out, and would just hang out with their girlfriends, run late and just text and it be all good. I do not believe that this teaches the kids things we want them to learn. Now obviously in most cases kids are already at school so this wasnt an issue all the time, but enough to notice. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 17:50:21 GMT -6
Kids can text me or send me a message via Hudl if they're sick or have an emergency. Other than that, there are no excused absences. If they don't come to practice they don't play. Contacting the OC or DC is not sufficient, since I'm the HC I need to know who is going to be there so I can decide the focus of practice before, not on the fly.
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Post by rosey65 on Nov 28, 2016 7:57:06 GMT -6
The kids all check in to the HC's room before 1st period, so there is an avenue to communicate there. We have 8 coaches in the building, so most kids will also talk to their position coach.
Miss a practice, sit a quarter. Mom schedules an appointment, kid tells us, is 45 minutes late to practice, he DOESNT sit, as he was at practice. Our LT was in the hospital w/ his dad for a day, after dad had cancer procedure. Kid didn't sit. We're not monsters!!
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