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Post by NC1974 on Oct 25, 2016 6:16:42 GMT -6
Looking for some ideas on the most efficient way to watch practice film. The best way I've seen is to watch yesterday's practice film during athletic period. The downside to this is not all coaches can necessarily be there due to teaching responsibilities and not all schools have an athletic period.
So how do people without athletic periods watch yesterday's film? Does anyone shave a little time off of field time for this? I'd love to hear how others schedule this.
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Post by coachb5806 on Oct 25, 2016 14:10:36 GMT -6
We only watch our live scrimmage practice film, which is done in Wednesdays practice. We watch it Thursday morning before school. We start at 6:45. School starts at 8:10.
This is easy for us as we come in every day at 6:45 year round for weight, footwork, agility, etc. In season, Thursdays are practice film days.
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Post by Chris Clement on Oct 25, 2016 17:23:08 GMT -6
We do it by position, so I make a cutup if just the small fraction of plays with something worth discussing, which saves a lot of pointless scrolling. Easier for some positions than others but it makes my meetings way more efficient.
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Post by georgefred86 on Oct 25, 2016 20:48:59 GMT -6
We film every practice and make notes on corrections via Hudl that night no later than 9 pm and expect our kids to watch before the next practice. As the oline/dline coach I spend the first 5-10 minutes of indy making the corrections before we roll into our daily drills.
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Post by NC1974 on Oct 25, 2016 21:06:52 GMT -6
We film every practice and make notes on corrections via Hudl that night no later than 9 pm and expect our kids to watch before the next practice. As the oline/dline coach I spend the first 5-10 minutes of indy making the corrections before we roll into our daily drills. Thanks for the responses guys. Georgefred86, when you say you spend the first 5-10 minutes of indy making corrections, do you do this on the field and just refer to the film?
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Post by georgefred86 on Oct 25, 2016 21:20:23 GMT -6
We film every practice and make notes on corrections via Hudl that night no later than 9 pm and expect our kids to watch before the next practice. As the oline/dline coach I spend the first 5-10 minutes of indy making the corrections before we roll into our daily drills. Thanks for the responses guys. Georgefred86, when you say you spend the first 5-10 minutes of indy making corrections, do you do this on the field and just refer to the film? Yes ... I have a list of all the corrections and we do a walk through right on the field. The only time we are in the classroom in-season is on Mondays to begin the week to deliver the game plan and then again on Saturday mornings at 8 am to watch film from the previous nights game.
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Post by Coach Vint on Oct 27, 2016 9:09:22 GMT -6
We watch film in our athletic period. We have special teams film for 10 minutes, then position meetings for 20 minutes. Saturday's we watch our game for 30 minutes by position. Monday we go over our scouting report and watch opponent film. Tuesday we watch Monday's practice film and correct mistakes. Wednesday we watch Tuesday's film. Thursday we do our pregame practice and watch 10 minutes of film after. I have found 10 to 15 minutes a day works very well. If you aren't watching film you are missing a great tool to help you improve. If you don't have a filmer you can use your phone and film off the hudl app. I do this frequently during individual when a filmer is not available.
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Post by kwc82 on Oct 27, 2016 11:32:59 GMT -6
When you guys say you expect to have your kids watch it, how successful are you in that? how do you know if they did? What are repurcussions if they didn't? how do you monitor that?
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Post by Coach Vint on Oct 27, 2016 12:18:32 GMT -6
On your hudl roster you can monitor how much film a player has watched in the last week and last 24 hours, and when when they last logged in. You can tell give them a time requirement and an accountability reminder if they don't meet the expectation.
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Post by jgordon1 on Oct 27, 2016 12:29:39 GMT -6
On your hudl roster you can monitor how much film a player has watched in the last week and last 24 hours, and when when they last logged in. You can tell give them a time requirement and an accountability reminder if they don't meet the expectation. I have found this to be unreliable..#1 there have been problems at HUDL which have been acknowledged. It was just plain wrong ALOT of the time..#2 I have kids whose parents will watch the tape..#3 kids will put the tape on but not watch it. (which I do when I have school crap to watch) #4 kids tell me they watch it w/ another player... Here's what I have done. #1 I will put something specific in there like telling them to text me an answer to a question #2 I will make a google forms quiz on the cutup #3 sometimes on the last slide I will say I will give $5 to the 7th player that texts me. I used to say the first player but the players would see it late and not text me because they figured they lost #4 I wish we could track to see if COACHES were watching the film
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Post by IronmanFootball on Oct 27, 2016 12:32:10 GMT -6
On your hudl roster you can monitor how much film a player has watched in the last week and last 24 hours, and when when they last logged in. You can tell give them a time requirement and an accountability reminder if they don't meet the expectation. I have found this to be unreliable..#1 there have been problems at HUDL which have been acknowledged. It was just plain wrong ALOT of the time..#2 I have kids whose parents will watch the tape..#3 kids will put the tape on but not watch it. (which I do when I have school crap to watch) #4 kids tell me they watch it w/ another player... Here's what I have done. #1 I will put something specific in there like telling them to text me an answer to a question #2 I will make a google forms quiz on the cutup #3 sometimes on the last slide I will say I will give $5 to the 7th player that texts me. I used to say the first player but the players would see it late and not text me because they figured they lost #4 I wish we could track to see if COACHES were watching the film amen to #4
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Post by jgordon1 on Oct 27, 2016 12:32:33 GMT -6
When you guys say you expect to have your kids watch it, how successful are you in that? how do you know if they did? What are repurcussions if they didn't? how do you monitor that? Its very hard to monitor..I will often just ask a kid if he watched it. sometimes I will text a kid and say make sure to watch play #xx I don't think punishing a kik for not watching is really going to help..he will just turn it on and do something else while it is running
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Post by Coach Vint on Oct 27, 2016 13:06:06 GMT -6
That's true, Coach Gordon. It's is one of the pitfalls of Hudl data tracking as far as watching habits. It is not the most reliable. Like you said, I like using cut-ups I make and putting some fun task on the last slide. I do that with my scouting report each week. It is about 8 slides and 8 cut-ups. I know exactly who has and hasn't watched it before we meet Monday if they do the task. We have many kids who don't have internet access away from school. I do film times before school and at lunch for 10 minutes. If they don't have access to film they can come in and watch at that time. 98% of them do. I have them watch prepared cut-ups that are 8 to 12 plays. One things I have learned over the years... If they see the benefit of watching film they are more apt to do it. We don't watch film to watch film. We watch film to improve our technique, to better understand our scheme, to learn our opponent's scheme, and to examine defensive personnel. We are finally at a point where our players are learning what to look for and why they look for it. It helps us make better in-game adjustments. I give my players a sheet on how to watch film. I tell them to use this as a guideline for 8 minutes a day. Here is a link to the film watching sheet for offensive lineman. docs.google.com/document/d/19W01TpHdAB14rquKFxKwTKpg_RSU9TpMzTJ8467pOVU/edit?usp=sharing
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Post by JVD on Oct 28, 2016 7:09:18 GMT -6
On your hudl roster you can monitor how much film a player has watched in the last week and last 24 hours, and when when they last logged in. You can tell give them a time requirement and an accountability reminder if they don't meet the expectation. I have found this to be unreliable..#1 there have been problems at HUDL which have been acknowledged. It was just plain wrong ALOT of the time..#2 I have kids whose parents will watch the tape..#3 kids will put the tape on but not watch it. (which I do when I have school crap to watch) #4 kids tell me they watch it w/ another player... Here's what I have done. #1 I will put something specific in there like telling them to text me an answer to a question #2 I will make a google forms quiz on the cutup #3 sometimes on the last slide I will say I will give $5 to the 7th player that texts me. I used to say the first player but the players would see it late and not text me because they figured they lost #4 I wish we could track to see if COACHES were watching the film +1 on #4...
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Post by coachmonkey on Oct 28, 2016 11:40:03 GMT -6
You guys are all at the high school level? And watching that much practice film?? Wow.
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 29, 2016 6:16:34 GMT -6
WE film every Tuesday and Wednesday. After practice I upload it to Hudl, then share the whole thing with everyone. Next I make a playlist of a few things I want the team to watch with comments. That is what I expect them to watch.
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Post by spos21ram on Oct 29, 2016 8:16:25 GMT -6
Our practice film is uploaded right after practice. We will watch it as a team the following day before practice.
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Post by jasper912 on Oct 31, 2016 20:05:58 GMT -6
We do not film practice. In college we watched yesterdays practice right before we practiced today.
As a small high school we do not EVER watch practice film after the season starts. We watch game film of ourselves on Monday's and then watch opponent game film throughout the week.
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Post by jrarick on Nov 4, 2016 12:56:49 GMT -6
It's not "watching" that is important for players - in my opinion. It is talking about and thinking about what they are seeing. One of my most successful techniques is to have players come to our video session with the numbers of three clips they want to share. #1 - The clip where they made a good decision or had excellent technique. (If they did not play, or play much, they can use someone else from their position group. #2 - IF they played, they share a clip of something they did wrong, (mental or physical) and what they should do different next - OR - if there is a clip later on in the game where they did do it right. #3 - A clip where there brother made a great play that others might not have seen. (This is NOT an obvious highlight clip that the untrained eye could see - but one that wold would need a circle around a player to draw attention to it.)
Players get better when they watch video and TALK and THINK about football - not when we talk to them.
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 4, 2016 13:13:53 GMT -6
Looking for some ideas on the most efficient way to watch practice film. The best way I've seen is to watch yesterday's practice film during athletic period. The downside to this is not all coaches can necessarily be there due to teaching responsibilities and not all schools have an athletic period. So how do people without athletic periods watch yesterday's film? Does anyone shave a little time off of field time for this? I'd love to hear how others schedule this. no football class time after school is limited because so many kids need tutoring/study hall time what i do is what i feel is the most efficient for us I load it from my ipad (by far the best way to film practice IMO) i add notes and share them... telestration and text i share it with the kids that night before they get in bed or ANY time during the school day when they are free... they can watch it on their phones my OL is actually the smartest (football IQ wise) i have ever had, and 4 of 5 watch the clips at least 1 time through my LG and LT watch it multiple times, and will actually seek out kids on team during the school day, and grab them... show them a clip they screwed up on and talk about what they shouldve done they get it fixed or come to me with questions and i fix it before that days practice this is why my LG is my captain (smart kid... brain makes up for his zero size or athletecism) and my LT is my best overall OL (as a sophomore) ... smart kid with a desire to keep getting better
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Post by joelee on Nov 4, 2016 13:22:51 GMT -6
Our staff annotes all every play of practice film and shares it with the players. We changed our practice schedule this year. We go hard on Monday, Tuesday. Wednesday has become our previous Monday (mental day)...this is when we watch practice film with the players. But the players will have the annoted practice film shared with them. Monday's practice will be shared Monday night/Tuesday morning. Tuesday's practice will be shared with them Tuesday night/wednesday morning. Whats your Thursday like now?
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Post by funkfriss on Nov 8, 2016 11:07:42 GMT -6
We start practice 45 minutes after school is let out so all of our coaches can be there on time. If we filmed practice the day before and want to watch, we do it in that 45 minute window with the coaches that can be there. We never watch the entire practice, only the handful that we as coaches need emphasizing for that day of practice. Usually takes 10 minutes and works out just right for us.
Maybe I'm underselling it, but I can't imagine expecting kids to watch practice film on their own time. That would mean that I am asking them to lift at 6:30 3 x a week, practice for 2 hours each day until 6:00, and on top of that watch 15 minutes or so of film? Not to mention they have homework to do at home.
Don't get me wrong, I know kids have the free time to get it done, but when does it become too much? I mean, they are teenage kids, not pros making money.
Think of it this way. Imagine being at work at 6:30 in the morning and not leaving until 6:00 at night only to go home and have an hour of homework (film). Most of us do this, but on top of that your boss/principal has you do 15 extra minutes of work at home on your own time, work we feel is redundant and not beneficial. That would not make me a happy camper.
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Post by texasslot on Nov 15, 2016 13:13:40 GMT -6
On Monday after practice, the Defense watches Team defense from that day. On Tuesday after practice, the offense watches team practice from that day. On Wednesday, us coaches watch our live scrimmage from that day and take notes. Then we watch Wednesday's live scrimmage Thursday morning with the team.
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Post by realdawg on Nov 15, 2016 13:16:30 GMT -6
Impressed you guys get people to film practice.
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Post by dytmook on Nov 15, 2016 13:37:26 GMT -6
Defense watches practice film on Tuesday, Offense on Wednesday. The few non two way guys we have go with their position coaches. We will also try to coach up scout team kids to make sure we can get as much as possible out of it.
We will try to cut 10-15 of practice those days to make sure we watch film. it really seemed to help this year.
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on Nov 16, 2016 0:58:00 GMT -6
I have found this to be unreliable..#1 there have been problems at HUDL which have been acknowledged. It was just plain wrong ALOT of the time..#2 I have kids whose parents will watch the tape..#3 kids will put the tape on but not watch it. (which I do when I have school crap to watch) #4 kids tell me they watch it w/ another player... Here's what I have done. #1 I will put something specific in there like telling them to text me an answer to a question #2 I will make a google forms quiz on the cutup #3 sometimes on the last slide I will say I will give $5 to the 7th player that texts me. I used to say the first player but the players would see it late and not text me because they figured they lost #4 I wish we could track to see if COACHES were watching the film +1 on #4... add them as a player... one of my 4 teams in Hudl is only for our coaches and full of clinic film and stuff - I added all coaches as players and I can see everything
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Post by Coach Vint on Nov 16, 2016 8:41:08 GMT -6
Impressed you guys get people to film practice. We are lucky to have some good managers. One thing I have done at different places is to get students who like sports to get involved in the process. They film practice and make highlight films. One coach on the board got his school to set up a class. Find a few kids that are interested in sports but don't want to play. Make them know what they are doing is very important.
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Post by coachklee on Nov 16, 2016 19:27:23 GMT -6
When you guys say you expect to have your kids watch it, how successful are you in that? how do you know if they did? What are repurcussions if they didn't? how do you monitor that? They don't improve as much as the guys who do watch it. I know for a fact that our 3 starting LBs all logged more Hudl time than anyone else on the team aside from our back-up QB / starting Safety. I pointed that out & several players Hudl times went up... Not every guy necessarily could translate somethings they saw on film to improving their on field performance & probably my best technically sound DL never logged into Hudl, but the guys that did the most slowly earned more playing time likely because they learned from watched themselves or other guys in their position.
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 16, 2016 22:52:52 GMT -6
Impressed you guys get people to film practice. i can email our entire student body at once through our gradebook/communication system called SchoolLoop every single year, before spring ball i send a mass message out to the whole school stating that we are looking for team managers and filmers i tell them there will be a meeting date for anyone who is interested at lunch and they meet me in my class Here I explain the job description and the commitment we need from them When i started doing this 3 years ago i had a couple kids last year that grew this past year i had 30 girls who wanted to be managers (and 1 boy who is actually bigger than all but 1 players on our team) and about 10 kids who wanted to be filmers because i had so many interested i wanted to weed out the turds i gave them 1 week to write me a half page essay on WHY they wanted to be team managers this cut the number a bit and then i explained i would be making cuts after spring ball if they didnt show up 80% of the time or more we developed a schedule for the minimum days they needed to be there and i appointed 2 "Captains" for each job One Senior as the official LEADER of their position and one underclassmen to essentially be their under study so they know how to run things the next year when they take over do they miss? heck yeah, all the time they are like the kids... they wanna miss but everyone is there on game day but because i have so many overall, we are always able to have about 4 managers and 2 filmers there every single day another thing you can do if you are a teacher, offer an insane amount of extra credit to kids who donate their time after school i did that for a kid once, ended up being the best press box filmer i have ever had deal was he could do his homework in my PE class and get an A, if he filmed every single game for me ( he was a 3 sport athlete in amazing shape and a 4.0 student) worked out great for everyone and he is in college now
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Post by s73 on Nov 17, 2016 6:58:10 GMT -6
We film practice all summer and watch it and correct it.
Once the season starts we TRY to film practice periodically but if I'm being honest it's not often enough due to time constraints. We don't have an athletic period and our school day ends later than most (3:15). Couple that with the fact that we have some coaches who are out of the building and traveling, we don't start practice until 345. I think it makes it hard to watch film regularly as we would be getting out of practice so late.
With that said, we correct game film on Friday nights, break down scout film on Saturdays and Mondays are late days for us as we watch game film (ours and scout) after practice on Mondays and get out about 7 or so.
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