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Post by **** on Oct 14, 2016 12:23:03 GMT -6
Got an email the other day from HUDL's guy in our state stating that he-they will now do complete breakdowns for a fee. I didn't know it ever cost money to do a breakdown? To my knowledge the breakdowns have always been free, or maybe that's just on our account. In order to get the most out of the breakdown and to trust it, you need accurate information put into ODK line as it goes across. It's not that our staff is lazy at all, the issue is that there's only 5 of us. And I would only trust 3/5 to input the correct info into formation, play, defensive front, etc. There's just not enough hours in the day it seems. Priorities.
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Post by greenwell on Oct 14, 2016 12:32:13 GMT -6
tagging film is the single best way to spot alignment "tells" in my opinion. I like to tag scout film run/pass first, then to formation. from there I sort by formation and tag away. So easy to see the slot or #1 receiver cheating his split everytime on the same calls, or that same player goes in motion only on run plays...
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Post by coachpech on Oct 14, 2016 12:40:22 GMT -6
So basically what I've read is that a bunch of people in here don't like watching film, nor breaking it down, yet on other threads the same people are tired of finishing .500 or less every year. Lets put 2 and 2 together here... Yup, there's no market for it at all. Just a half dozen of us that come from losing programs unwilling to dedicate more time.
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Post by coachks on Oct 14, 2016 19:16:46 GMT -6
So basically what I've read is that a bunch of people in here don't like watching film, nor breaking it down, yet on other threads the same people are tired of finishing .500 or less every year. Lets put 2 and 2 together here... Breaking down film is fine. I actually enjoy it. Putting the crap into HUDL is a nightmare. I used to be able to (on average) watch a tape 4 times in about an hour and 20 minutes and get Formations, Plays, Right / Left, Strong / Weak tagged and have the basic breakdown done. Writing things down and putting stick marks on a legal pad. if it was somebody who ran a grab-bag or 150 formations it might slow it down a bit... but hardly every over 2 hours (of actual breakdown). HUDL takes me almost twice as long because I have to wait for clips to load - go back and delete things that it "auto fills" for me. I might still be writing the previous clip when it goes to the next clip and when I finish the input it takes it back a clip. Can't watch it in fast forward (when when you are doing Right / Left (or even strong weak) you can do on a tape. The breakdowns you get are great. Having all that data so accessible is great. It is definitely a tool and that is why I still input the crap. Overall it probably saves time because you don't have to make physical copies of the tape and drive to a tape exchange.... but man does it suck sometimes doing a job in 3 hours that used to be done in 1:30.
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Post by natenator on Oct 15, 2016 7:34:55 GMT -6
So basically what I've read is that a bunch of people in here don't like watching film, nor breaking it down, yet on other threads the same people are tired of finishing .500 or less every year. Lets put 2 and 2 together here... Breaking down film is fine. I actually enjoy it. Putting the crap into HUDL is a nightmare. I used to be able to (on average) watch a tape 4 times in about an hour and 20 minutes and get Formations, Plays, Right / Left, Strong / Weak tagged and have the basic breakdown done. Writing things down and putting stick marks on a legal pad. if it was somebody who ran a grab-bag or 150 formations it might slow it down a bit... but hardly every over 2 hours (of actual breakdown). HUDL takes me almost twice as long because I have to wait for clips to load - go back and delete things that it "auto fills" for me. I might still be writing the previous clip when it goes to the next clip and when I finish the input it takes it back a clip. Can't watch it in fast forward (when when you are doing Right / Left (or even strong weak) you can do on a tape. The breakdowns you get are great. Having all that data so accessible is great. It is definitely a tool and that is why I still input the crap. Overall it probably saves time because you don't have to make physical copies of the tape and drive to a tape exchange.... but man does it suck sometimes doing a job in 3 hours that used to be done in 1:30. Why not just put your data into excel then import into HUDL then?
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Post by coachks on Oct 15, 2016 10:06:10 GMT -6
Breaking down film is fine. I actually enjoy it. Putting the crap into HUDL is a nightmare. I used to be able to (on average) watch a tape 4 times in about an hour and 20 minutes and get Formations, Plays, Right / Left, Strong / Weak tagged and have the basic breakdown done. Writing things down and putting stick marks on a legal pad. if it was somebody who ran a grab-bag or 150 formations it might slow it down a bit... but hardly every over 2 hours (of actual breakdown). HUDL takes me almost twice as long because I have to wait for clips to load - go back and delete things that it "auto fills" for me. I might still be writing the previous clip when it goes to the next clip and when I finish the input it takes it back a clip. Can't watch it in fast forward (when when you are doing Right / Left (or even strong weak) you can do on a tape. The breakdowns you get are great. Having all that data so accessible is great. It is definitely a tool and that is why I still input the crap. Overall it probably saves time because you don't have to make physical copies of the tape and drive to a tape exchange.... but man does it suck sometimes doing a job in 3 hours that used to be done in 1:30. Why not just put your data into excel then import into HUDL then? I really did not know you can do that. I knew I could export to excel, did not know I could import. I'll have to look into that.
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Post by Chris Clement on Oct 15, 2016 20:25:52 GMT -6
Or adjust your settings so it either loops back the same play or stops when that clip is done. As for the input, learn your keyboard.
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Post by coachbn on Oct 15, 2016 23:33:16 GMT -6
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