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Post by 3rdandlong on Oct 7, 2016 11:49:31 GMT -6
As I get farther along with my coaching career, I've started to discover myself and the values I want our team to have. With this, I've come to the conclusion that pouting and whining is the #1 thing I won't tolerate. There was a RB pouting about not playing during a JV game and his complaining only became more and more cancerous. You can't be successful in life by whining!
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Oct 7, 2016 11:51:15 GMT -6
I think you're right.
How do you coach it out of them?
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Post by fantom on Oct 7, 2016 12:03:05 GMT -6
I thought that this was about me most Saturday mornings this year.
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Post by fantom on Oct 7, 2016 12:05:12 GMT -6
As I get farther along with my coaching career, I've started to discover myself and the values I want our team to have. With this, I've come to the conclusion that pouting and whining is the #1 thing I won't tolerate. There was a RB pouting about not playing during a JV game and his complaining only became more and more cancerous. You can't be successful in life by whining! What do you mean by "cancerous"? To me it's only more cancerous if it spreads. Were other kids agreeing with him? How are you planning to deal with it? |
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Post by 3rdandlong on Oct 7, 2016 12:13:45 GMT -6
What I mean by cancerous is that sometimes there teammates will listen. Or the other thing it does is that it distracts people (players, an assitant coach) from the task at hand because they try and deal with the kid complaining which means people lose focus because of a selfish individual. My policy from here on out is that these types simply won't be acknowledged. Attention is what their looking for.
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Post by fantom on Oct 7, 2016 12:16:53 GMT -6
What I mean by cancerous is that sometimes there teammates will listen. Or the other thing it does is that it distracts people (players, an assitant coach) from the task at hand because they try and deal with the kid complaining which means people lose focus because of a selfish individual. My policy from here on out is that these types simply won't be acknowledged. Attention is what their looking for. Acknowledged by whom? The other players? How will you enforce that? Won't that distract you from doing your job? |
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Post by 3rdandlong on Oct 7, 2016 12:36:16 GMT -6
Exactly. I agree. I never acknowledge it, but it's inevitable that I see other players talking to them and even sometimes an assistant. We have a job to do, not to worry about complaint in the middle of a football game.
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Post by carookie on Oct 7, 2016 13:24:54 GMT -6
I used to work for a HC who was pretty big at acknowledging it and disciplining it. Did it take some time away from other things? Yes, but if it is something you do not want then you MUST address it (even at the sacrifice of other things).
Remember you either coach it or you allow it.
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Post by moon on Oct 7, 2016 17:30:54 GMT -6
This year we started No BCD, which stands for no blaming, complaining, or defending (I believe our hc got it from OSU). If you bcd, you'll find yourself at the bottom of the depth chart. If your not a player who gets meaningful reps in practice or in games and you do this you'll never see the field even during garbage time. Players who drop down the depth chart have to check their attitudes because we are not going to deal with a bunch of "me guys". The thing is, you've got to really hammer it to those who do it, even if they are starters or it won't work with the rest of the team. Once kids see the starters being called out for it they get the message really quick.
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Post by dubber on Oct 8, 2016 19:54:59 GMT -6
I've said this before, but the whole point of our JV is to nip this crap in the bud.
I ask the players before every game what is the only thing I care about? The answer is Attitude and Effort.
I coach that over technique, alignment, execution, whatever.
How hard do you play, and can you be positive when dealing with adversity.
That, and if you want Friday night lights, find the weightroom.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Oct 9, 2016 15:24:06 GMT -6
This year we started No BCD, which stands for no blaming, complaining, or defending (I believe our hc got it from OSU). If you bcd, you'll find yourself at the bottom of the depth chart. If your not a player who gets meaningful reps in practice or in games and you do this you'll never see the field even during garbage time. Players who drop down the depth chart have to check their attitudes because we are not going to deal with a bunch of "me guys". The thing is, you've got to really hammer it to those who do it, even if they are starters or it won't work with the rest of the team. Once kids see the starters being called out for it they get the message really quick. In college we called it "bmw" no b1txhing moaning or whining |
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Post by dytmook on Oct 9, 2016 15:27:03 GMT -6
3 easiest things to do are quit, complain, and make excuses. Don't take the easy way.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 9, 2016 15:40:16 GMT -6
This year we started No BCD, which stands for no blaming, complaining, or defending (I believe our hc got it from OSU). If you bcd, you'll find yourself at the bottom of the depth chart. If your not a player who gets meaningful reps in practice or in games and you do this you'll never see the field even during garbage time. Players who drop down the depth chart have to check their attitudes because we are not going to deal with a bunch of "me guys". The thing is, you've got to really hammer it to those who do it, even if they are starters or it won't work with the rest of the team. Once kids see the starters being called out for it they get the message really quick. In college we called it "bmw" no b1txhing moaning or complaining Wouldn't that be b1txhing moaning or whining? |
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Oct 9, 2016 15:47:57 GMT -6
In college we called it "bmw" no b1txhing moaning or complaining Wouldn't that be b1txhing moaning or whining? Man I thought that's what I typed lol Little sleep deprived I guess |
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Oct 9, 2016 15:48:32 GMT -6
Lol
Fixed
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Post by coachpech on Oct 9, 2016 16:41:36 GMT -6
For our program Pouting/Whining run hand in hand with selfishness. We have kids who get upset and intentionally don't play worth a {censored} because we chose to keep one of their bf's strictly for the varsity game a particular week. We had a kid get in the head coaches face this week because he feels as though he deserves time on offense. We have kids who continually cry during conditioning and my favorite are the kids who complain that they have to come to school the day after a JV game when the varsity kids don't have to do that.
It's the wussification and sense of entitlement generation, our country is truly doomed.
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Post by coachpech on Oct 9, 2016 16:43:43 GMT -6
And to make matters worse...there's more protection from Administration and Parents for their actions than there's ever been, leaving us Coaches as the ones who are stuck dealing with the nonsense.
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Post by CS on Oct 9, 2016 18:16:14 GMT -6
Exactly. I agree. I never acknowledge it, but it's inevitable that I see other players talking to them and even sometimes an assistant. We have a job to do, not to worry about complaint in the middle of a football game. I hammer the sh!t out of a kid who is having a pity party. I think not acknowledging it is endorsing it. You have to be willing to address any issue you don't like otherwise it will continue. |
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Post by carookie on Oct 9, 2016 19:05:17 GMT -6
One thing we do is not allow kids to give the 'eye roll' or brush off 'yeah'; it is 'Yes' coach and it is said without attitude. If you take care of the small things like these, the big things tend to never happen.
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Post by somecoach on Oct 9, 2016 19:05:44 GMT -6
It comes from the parents.
They raise the kids with this false sense if entitlement.
If only they were honest with their kids.
Too many times have I seen parents/son complain about their playing time when the kid doesn't take practice/ learning the actual scheme seriously or is quite frankly afraid to play the game.
Instead of explaining to the kid that he needs to work harder and EARN the spot, they BLAME us and say "The coach has no idea what he is doing, can't they see how good my kid is !?!"
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Post by utchuckd on Oct 10, 2016 6:16:13 GMT -6
Dave Ramsey (business/finance guy) has a 'no gossip' policy. Gossip is defined as complaining about something to someone who can't do anything about it. When you catch it, address it, don't allow it to continue.
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