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Post by coachmonkey on Oct 6, 2016 6:47:14 GMT -6
I just wanted to share a story from practice this season:
Last night we had our C-Team practicing. I felt we were not physical enough on the whole so I decided we needed to do some things to become more aggressive and physical tacklers. First drill - Hit the one man sled, and do not stop your feet on contact. If your feet stop on contact you owe me 5 pushups. After the drill, a player was crying because he hurt his finger on the one man sled which is completely padded. As far as I can, he probably just jammed it. A little part of my soul died in that moment.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 6, 2016 7:12:52 GMT -6
We have found that kids become more physical when they have confidence in their ability to do their job. They'll play faster and harder when they know where they're going, what they're doing and experience success. It's pretty tough for a kid to be physical if they've missed umpteen many tackles/blocks and don't have that basic intrinsic motivation.
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Post by 53 on Oct 6, 2016 7:27:05 GMT -6
Physicality comes from your coaching attitude and how you teach it.
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Post by **** on Oct 6, 2016 7:27:46 GMT -6
If a puppy doesn't bite, it never will.
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Post by coachfloyd on Oct 6, 2016 7:35:29 GMT -6
If a puppy doesn't bite, it never will. Ive found this to be false. The majority of times the position group will take on the personality of the position coach and the entire group of the coordinator. Thats been my experience.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 6, 2016 7:47:43 GMT -6
We do tackling and blocking drills every day for this very reason. We do so in fast paced, high energy drills where we strongly emphasize technique but we will make kids go back through it if a) they're technique is poor or b) they're not smacking someone. We'll even give a little bit on the technique side if they really stick someone. We do these drills every single day during camp and for the first few weeks of the season. We back off on them to once-twice a week after that but obviously still drill blocking and tackling during INDY time.
The kids aren't going to be physical in a game if they're not given the opportunity to be physical in practice.
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Post by 53 on Oct 6, 2016 7:47:57 GMT -6
Ass kickers win football games. It's something you need to cultivate and emphasize early in your program.
If you're asking this question during the season, It's too late.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 6, 2016 8:43:24 GMT -6
If a puppy doesn't bite, it never will. I didn't bite until 9th grade after getting cut in the 8th grade. Don't think I fully tore flesh with the bite until 11th grade lol.
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Post by newt21 on Oct 6, 2016 8:55:26 GMT -6
Ass kickers win football games. It's something you need to cultivate and emphasize early in your program. If you're asking this question during the season, It's too late. I respectfully disagree, it's never too late to work on being more physical. Some kids light bulb doesn't come on until 3/4 the way through the season, some kids it waits until the last week.
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Post by carookie on Oct 6, 2016 9:02:34 GMT -6
I wouldn't let it get to you, this was a singular example of a player from your c-team. Believe it or not, there are quite a few boys who come out for football (usually their freshman year) who don't really want to play football. Of that group, there is a small percentage who will not hit, and are deathly afraid of contact. I had a kid one year whose parents made him come out for the team and was deathly afraid to tackle; he'd sit out scout team corner, back pedal 20 yards on run plays and intentionally miss getting close to the play; if an win the play came to him he'd run out of bounds. Now we worked with him in individual drills, coached him up on the proper techniques, showed him how safe he was, heck we had times where we would explain exactly what was going to happen down to the smallest movement (so he had nothing to fear) but he was still afraid.
Now, I'm sure many will tell you a lot of good things about coaching them up and giving them confidence, and in 99% of cases this is correct, but you have to understand their are some outliers. There are some kids out there whose brains are fried from drug use, the best teacher utilizing the best lesson couldn't get them to learn. There are some kids out there who have physical limitations and disabilities, and regardless of the strength program and diet will never squat 225. Ditto with contact.
The point is, if it is just this one kid then I wouldn't let it get to you. Coach him up the best you can, give him everything you would everyone else; but understand he may be an outlier in this regards and don't let it detour you from doing a good job with everyone else.
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Post by StraightFlexin on Oct 6, 2016 9:02:55 GMT -6
I think you get what you emphasis. One drill we have installed is our 4 in 10 drill. We have an offense 3 lineman (any position) and 1 back against 3 lineman (any position) and a backer/db. The offense has 4 downs to get 10 yards. We run this inside the lines (5 yards wide). Teaches backs to run hard and stay in bounds. The players love it. Not only can you preach being physical, but you don't have to worry about huge impacts. Make sure you have a coach ready with a whistle to avoid rolling in piles (knees and ankles).
Just a drill we run, might not work for everyone
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Post by fantom on Oct 6, 2016 9:07:39 GMT -6
I just wanted to share a story from practice this season: Last night we had our C-Team practicing. I felt we were not physical enough on the whole so I decided we needed to do some things to become more aggressive and physical tacklers. First drill - Hit the one man sled, and do not stop your feet on contact. If your feet stop on contact you owe me 5 pushups. After the drill, a player was crying because he hurt his finger on the one man sled which is completely padded. As far as I can, he probably just jammed it. A little part of my soul died in that moment. How old is this kid? I have no idea what a C team is.
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Post by 53 on Oct 6, 2016 9:10:32 GMT -6
Ass kickers win football games. It's something you need to cultivate and emphasize early in your program. If you're asking this question during the season, It's too late. I respectfully disagree, it's never too late to work on being more physical. Some kids light bulb doesn't come on until 3/4 the way through the season, some kids it waits until the last week. I agree it's better than never starting but too many wait till the middle of the season and then want to focus on it. It should be one of the foundations of every program
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Post by **** on Oct 6, 2016 9:34:40 GMT -6
The majority of times the position group will take on the personality of the position coach and the entire group of the coordinator. Thats been my experience. Must be why I have a bunch of pricks on defense. And douches at ILB.... Right nfcbeast ?
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Post by coachmonkey on Oct 6, 2016 9:44:45 GMT -6
I just wanted to share a story from practice this season: Last night we had our C-Team practicing. I felt we were not physical enough on the whole so I decided we needed to do some things to become more aggressive and physical tacklers. First drill - Hit the one man sled, and do not stop your feet on contact. If your feet stop on contact you owe me 5 pushups. After the drill, a player was crying because he hurt his finger on the one man sled which is completely padded. As far as I can, he probably just jammed it. A little part of my soul died in that moment. How old is this kid? I have no idea what a C team is. To clarify, we are a very physical team at the varsity level, and normally JV too, we just had a bad start to a JV game where the other team broke a few tackles to start the game. So we emphasizing playing physical with the C-Team (Basically most freshman, kids who never played before - its a level below JV). This isn't a first time thing for us, but losing a freshman or any kid in a drill on the one man sled because he hit his pinky finger on the padded part of the bag and jammed it was almost more irony than I could tolerate.
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Post by coachmonkey on Oct 6, 2016 9:46:24 GMT -6
I wouldn't let it get to you, this was a singular example of a player from your c-team. Believe it or not, there are quite a few boys who come out for football (usually their freshman year) who don't really want to play football. Of that group, there is a small percentage who will not hit, and are deathly afraid of contact. I had a kid one year whose parents made him come out for the team and was deathly afraid to tackle; he'd sit out scout team corner, back pedal 20 yards on run plays and intentionally miss getting close to the play; if an win the play came to him he'd run out of bounds. Now we worked with him in individual drills, coached him up on the proper techniques, showed him how safe he was, heck we had times where we would explain exactly what was going to happen down to the smallest movement (so he had nothing to fear) but he was still afraid. Now, I'm sure many will tell you a lot of good things about coaching them up and giving them confidence, and in 99% of cases this is correct, but you have to understand their are some outliers. There are some kids out there whose brains are fried from drug use, the best teacher utilizing the best lesson couldn't get them to learn. There are some kids out there who have physical limitations and disabilities, and regardless of the strength program and diet will never squat 225. Ditto with contact. The point is, if it is just this one kid then I wouldn't let it get to you. Coach him up the best you can, give him everything you would everyone else; but understand he may be an outlier in this regards and don't let it detour you from doing a good job with everyone else. It's not getting to me. We are a very physical defense on varsity, but the irony in this case was humorous to me.
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Post by 53 on Oct 6, 2016 9:50:35 GMT -6
I've had quite a few quite during team sled time. It's hard ass work to a lot of them.
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Post by fantom on Oct 6, 2016 9:53:19 GMT -6
How old is this kid? I have no idea what a C team is. To clarify, we are a very physical team at the varsity level, and normally JV too, we just had a bad start to a JV game where the other team broke a few tackles to start the game. So we emphasizing playing physical with the C-Team (Basically most freshman, kids who never played before - its a level below JV). This isn't a first time thing for us, but losing a freshman or any kid in a drill on the one man sled because he hit his pinky finger on the padded part of the bag and jammed it was almost more irony than I could tolerate. It happens with first-time players. Some will figure out that a sore finger isn't a big deal. Some will decide that football isn't for them.
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Post by nfcbeast on Oct 6, 2016 12:01:41 GMT -6
The majority of times the position group will take on the personality of the position coach and the entire group of the coordinator. Thats been my experience. Must be why I have a bunch of pricks on defense. And douches at ILB.... Right nfcbeast ? [b Always a turd in every pot anders4. NFCBEAST
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Post by coachfloyd on Oct 6, 2016 12:12:38 GMT -6
The majority of times the position group will take on the personality of the position coach and the entire group of the coordinator. Thats been my experience. Must be why I have a bunch of pricks on defense. And douches at ILB.... Right nfcbeast ? Yesterday my RG looked at a backup tackle and asked him what it felt like to be weak. I was like dang Ive turned him into me.
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Post by 53 on Oct 6, 2016 12:46:42 GMT -6
I had a player yesterday in our tackling drill tell another player to get up he was killing the grass.
I told him he has a future in this business
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Post by dubber on Oct 7, 2016 7:32:33 GMT -6
Ok, so I just "liked" all the ahole posts....guess that tells me something.
In my experience, physicality is a manifestation of confidence.
While knowing assignment and technique helps, I have found no better cultivator of physicality/confidence than the weight room.
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Post by chi5hi on Oct 7, 2016 8:41:52 GMT -6
We have found that kids become more physical when they have confidence in their ability to do their job. They'll play faster and harder when they know where they're going, what they're doing and experience success. It's pretty tough for a kid to be physical if they've missed umpteen many tackles/blocks and don't have that basic intrinsic motivation. THIS...Exactly!
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Post by IronmanFootball on Oct 13, 2016 15:01:37 GMT -6
You need a coupla guys that are jail material, there's no doubt. A couple of wild men types. But you can't have 25/50 like that or you'll be Urban Meyer, oh wait, that doesn't sound so bad.
I think safe and well practiced technique, easy reads, confidence in yourself and your coaches and teammates creates someone that can "hit" you don't have to kill guys, just make fluid sure tackles.
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Post by murdr on Oct 15, 2016 6:39:11 GMT -6
A big part of it, in my opinion, it's also just pure strength and mass. In high school, I had bite. One college hit and I was physically over matched? Different story. The game wasn't fun anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 11:38:25 GMT -6
A big part of it, in my opinion, it's also just pure strength and mass. In high school, I had bite. One college hit and I was physically over matched? Different story. The game wasn't fun anymore. Exactly me. I went from thinking I would kill anybody in front of me to thinking, "Holy *bleep*, I'm gonna die!"
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