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Post by fballcoachg on Oct 4, 2016 7:03:23 GMT -6
One of our biggest headaches has been consistently finding people to film 9th and JV games and people wanting them posted immediately. We do not have a dedicated JV staff and have two guys in addition to varsity coaches that work with freshman. In HS we didn't film sub varsity and we haven't filmed it anywhere else I've been, it was something I walked in to.
Do you guys film those games, does anyone watch them with the kids, and do you think it's beneficial?
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Post by pvogel on Oct 4, 2016 7:23:48 GMT -6
One of our biggest headaches has been consistently finding people to film 9th and JV games and people wanting them posted immediately. We do not have a dedicated JV staff and have two guys in addition to varsity coaches that work with freshman. In HS we didn't film sub varsity and we haven't filmed it anywhere else I've been, it was something I walked in to. Do you guys film those games, does anyone watch them with the kids, and do you think it's beneficial? Ya I'm always a fan of film. And it gets them used to it for when they move up. It also allows the varsity coaches to see what is going on since we usually aren't at the games. And there is never a shortage of injured kids on jv |
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Post by mariner42 on Oct 4, 2016 7:28:10 GMT -6
We film everything. How are you supposed to correct mistakes if you don't?
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Oct 4, 2016 7:56:00 GMT -6
One of our biggest headaches has been consistently finding people to film 9th and JV games and people wanting them posted immediately. We do not have a dedicated JV staff and have two guys in addition to varsity coaches that work with freshman. In HS we didn't film sub varsity and we haven't filmed it anywhere else I've been, it was something I walked in to. Do you guys film those games, does anyone watch them with the kids, and do you think it's beneficial? Yes we do, we have 2 , 9th grade girls that do, and our conference requires trade for freshman games, not 7-8. But we record those too. Hard to fine time to watch the 7-8. |
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Oct 4, 2016 7:57:48 GMT -6
We try to watch film with the 9th starters day after, but that is hard when myself and the head 9th have to leave early for out of town varsity games.
We only have a3 man staff in a 870-900 enrollment junior high.
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Post by PSS on Oct 4, 2016 8:34:05 GMT -6
We record both 9th and JV games. Same kids that record our varsity record them. We then watch it the next day. We use it to keep keeps stats for each team also, offense, defense, and special teams. We have to have a game by game total and a season total as part of our end of season wrap up for the HC. Couldn't do that without film.
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Post by dubber on Oct 4, 2016 9:19:29 GMT -6
No.
The point of JV, for us, is to get them use to playing with great attitude and effort. It is a struggle to learn how.....
And to hate it so much they work their butts off in the off season so they can play on Fridays.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 4, 2016 9:22:27 GMT -6
We don't. Wish we could and wish we had time to watch it but being a small school where 9-12 practice together it makes it impossible to do. Some JV games are Mondays so that already limits what we can do with the varsity guys left, last week we had 16 guys because of a JV game. If we were to film JV and then watch it with them that's gonna wipe out time we need for them to be on the field. Luckily we have blown a few teams out and can get them on film in mop up time vs other teams back ups and watch that a bit with them.
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Post by **** on Oct 4, 2016 10:03:35 GMT -6
I have a manager or an injured kid film our lower level games.
I watch them on my own but the coaches don't watch them with the kids.
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 4, 2016 10:29:00 GMT -6
We do, usually an injured kid or a varsity sub. We never watch it with the group though but we do share it on HUDL.
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Post by fballcoachg on Oct 4, 2016 17:43:12 GMT -6
I have no problem putting them up, just a problem getting them consistently recorded and am sick of dealing with emails about it. I took over a down program and there wasn't much genuine support so we are just now in year two tapping in to actual volunteers for the sake of volunteering.
We put it on hudl but don't watch it as a team, our JVs get coached in practice and in games (most of our coaches are at the JV games and it's cool for myself and the DC to sit back a bit and coach individual kids instead of worry about the big picture). To fit in to our time schedule we simply don't prioritize JV film over field time 10-12 field time, 9th could feasibly hold kids on Friday and watch it but I'm not a big fan of that.
I couldn't imagine doing stats or worrying about stats for 9th and JV games especially because our biggest goal there is development and we play everyone, would change the dynamic if we had stats for parents and kids to fret about.
Interesting to see the different ways people do or don't use it...if it wasn't a headache I guess I wouldn't care one bit.
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Post by orion320 on Oct 4, 2016 18:40:36 GMT -6
We record all games. If time permits we will watch the game with the kids but not to the depth that we watch games with the Varsity. We use it as a tool to teach them how to watch film so when they get to the Varsity level they know what we expect from them when they watch film.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 4, 2016 20:17:15 GMT -6
I was in the box last night for the jv away game with the headphones on and I would just record game on the hudl app on the ipad. We couldn't find anyone, so I just did it. If you can't find anyone to do it, have the head varsity coach do it!!!
At home jv games, we bribe the varsity players to be on the chain gang, ball boys, or film for jv games. We will give them 5 sprints off the next day and some free pizza.
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Post by jtimmerman53 on Oct 5, 2016 6:26:59 GMT -6
We film all of our 9th grade and JV games. The JV kids don't always get to watch themselves because they also have to work with the varsity squad at practice but our 9th grade teams usually get to watch at least some of the film at some point during the week.
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Post by fballcoachg on Oct 5, 2016 7:05:10 GMT -6
I was in the box last night for the jv away game with the headphones on and I would just record game on the hudl app on the ipad. We couldn't find anyone, so I just did it. If you can't find anyone to do it, have the head varsity coach do it!!! At home jv games, we bribe the varsity players to be on the chain gang, ball boys, or film for jv games. We will give them 5 sprints off the next day and some free pizza. Is that par for the course for headsets to be used at JV games? Genuinely curious, never saw that. Our varsity have actually done a great job supporting the lower levels when they are home, been cool to see that turn around attitude...pizza wouldn't hurt the cause though! |
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Post by spos21ram on Oct 5, 2016 7:37:27 GMT -6
We film most of our JV games. Only time we don't is if we are away and have no one injured to film or a willing parent.
We do not use headsets for JV or our freshmen team.
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Post by fshamrock on Oct 5, 2016 7:38:09 GMT -6
We do film it but we don't wear headsets. Played a team on time that had dudes in the box with headsets, new program that was only plying JV ball since they had just freshmen and sophomores on campus...we understood why they were doing it but it was still funny to see them setting up all intense for the game. They had a blow up tunnel with the dry ice smoke and everything, they ran out of that bad boy to the roar of the dozen or so fans at the JV contest
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 5, 2016 7:39:33 GMT -6
Never wore headsets for a lower level game. Had a school once apologize for using them though in a JV game, it was kind of funny.
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Post by pistola on Oct 5, 2016 11:05:11 GMT -6
we don't film sub varsity games, sometimes the team we play will and they will send it over to us that night. Small staff so I personally have hard time finding enough time to devote to breaking down jv games on film, they are good to watch if we get them however.
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Post by cfoott on Oct 5, 2016 11:34:52 GMT -6
We film both levels. We'll usually pay a couple kids to film both games. Our JV staff watches it with the team on Saturday.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Oct 5, 2016 12:18:46 GMT -6
I was in the box last night for the jv away game with the headphones on and I would just record game on the hudl app on the ipad. We couldn't find anyone, so I just did it. If you can't find anyone to do it, have the head varsity coach do it!!! At home jv games, we bribe the varsity players to be on the chain gang, ball boys, or film for jv games. We will give them 5 sprints off the next day and some free pizza. Is that par for the course for headsets to be used at JV games? Genuinely curious, never saw that. Our varsity have actually done a great job supporting the lower levels when they are home, been cool to see that turn around attitude...pizza wouldn't hurt the cause though! Where I am at now, everyone uses headsets for freshman games too! First time I've ever been apart of something like this for 9th. |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 5, 2016 13:55:57 GMT -6
I was in the box last night for the jv away game with the headphones on and I would just record game on the hudl app on the ipad. We couldn't find anyone, so I just did it. If you can't find anyone to do it, have the head varsity coach do it!!! At home jv games, we bribe the varsity players to be on the chain gang, ball boys, or film for jv games. We will give them 5 sprints off the next day and some free pizza. Is that par for the course for headsets to be used at JV games? Genuinely curious, never saw that. Our varsity have actually done a great job supporting the lower levels when they are home, been cool to see that turn around attitude...pizza wouldn't hurt the cause though! I would say no on par for the course. |
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Post by dvilleg1 on Oct 7, 2016 6:34:01 GMT -6
Is that par for the course for headsets to be used at JV games? Genuinely curious, never saw that. Our varsity have actually done a great job supporting the lower levels when they are home, been cool to see that turn around attitude...pizza wouldn't hurt the cause though! Where I am at now, everyone uses headsets for freshman games too! First time I've ever been apart of something like this for 9th. Where is this??? I really need to move out of NY. |
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Post by spos21ram on Oct 7, 2016 9:50:58 GMT -6
Where I am at now, everyone uses headsets for freshman games too! First time I've ever been apart of something like this for 9th. Where is this??? I really need to move out of NY. Im not sure headsets being used at the freshmen level is a positive. It's a waste of time and resources if you ask me. |
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Post by dvilleg1 on Oct 7, 2016 9:58:48 GMT -6
Where is this??? I really need to move out of NY. Im not sure headsets being used at the freshmen level is a positive. It's a waste of time and resources if you ask me. I do agree with you, I would just like to be somewhere where football is taken more seriously though...NY is not up to the same level as some other places, obviously. |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 7, 2016 10:27:45 GMT -6
Where is this??? I really need to move out of NY. Im not sure headsets being used at the freshmen level is a positive. It's a waste of time and resources if you ask me. Why? |
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Post by spos21ram on Oct 7, 2016 14:37:58 GMT -6
I've never been apart of a program where the sub varsity teams are totally seperate from the varsity so my view point will differ from some because of this. We have 1 coaching staff of 11 coaches. 5 or 6 are full time or close to full time volunteers. From these 11, 3 coach freshmen but still have some varsity duties, especially on game day. The other 8 coaches are varsity coaches, 2 of them are also the JV game day coaches.
I think it's a waste of resources to have a freshman staff greater than 2 or 3. The bigger the freshmen staff, the less number of coaches working with varsity at practice that day. Also, how many freshmen coaches are going to be useful up in the box and not just a play by play announcer. At he lower levels, especially freshmen, how many different fronts and coverages are you going to see?
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Oct 9, 2016 16:06:30 GMT -6
Where I am at now, everyone uses headsets for freshman games too! First time I've ever been apart of something like this for 9th. Where is this??? I really need to move out of NY. In a 7a conference here in Arkansas, I think it's the "we are big schools we need to use them" but hell the best team in the conference doesn't use them and runs about 50 Formations on offense This is my first year here |
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Oct 9, 2016 16:08:37 GMT -6
I've never been apart of a program where the sub varsity teams are totally seperate from the varsity so my view point will differ from some because of this. We have 1 coaching staff of 11 coaches. 5 or 6 are full time or close to full time volunteers. From these 11, 3 coach freshmen but still have some varsity duties, especially on game day. The other 8 coaches are varsity coaches, 2 of them are also the JV game day coaches. I think it's a waste of resources to have a freshman staff greater than 2 or 3. The bigger the freshmen staff, the less number of coaches working with varsity at practice that day. Also, how many freshmen coaches are going to be useful up in the box and not just a play by play announcer. At he lower levels, especially freshmen, how many different fronts and coverages are you going to see? We are a multi school district town, each high school has 2 feeder schools. There are only 3 paid coaches for ALL boys sports 7-9, football, basketball and track Soccer Wrestling And baseball starts in hs |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 20:30:19 GMT -6
I have a dad that is in the entertainment industry and he records every JV game we have. He edits it and gets it back to me within 6 hours after the game so I can load it into Hudl. It's a luxury I do appreciate. I make notes on the film as do other coaches and share it with the team but many of them just don't watch it.
Having film helps to determine who is actually doing their job and who isn't. It's also helpful for keeping stats.
I've found that watching it with the players is of limited value. Many of them look at it as a time to relax, have a few laughs and they focus on what they did right (not what they did wrong). It's better, in our program, for the coaches to watch it to figure out what the problem ares are and then make changes in practice.
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