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Post by CanyonCoach on Sept 29, 2016 13:31:41 GMT -6
Does anyone have a proven method of getting kids to commit to the next season? We were rolling with kids committed to the weight room and leadership training....then the wheels fell off. less than half of the team was at summer weights and that was sporadic, zero kids at leadership in the spring and summer (winter sessions were great 20 kids). We had 15 good kids that were decent athletes not come out, all juniors and seniors. Reasons were all over the place from getting jobs to the "I just don't love it anymore" to I don't think we will be very good so I don't want to play.
We don't have a tradition of winning but we had 2 decent years and narrowly missed play-offs leading up to this season.
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Post by **** on Sept 29, 2016 13:39:19 GMT -6
Win more games.
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Post by wiscohscoach on Sept 29, 2016 13:42:47 GMT -6
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Post by carookie on Sept 29, 2016 14:18:32 GMT -6
You got a carrot, and you gotta whip. If people are quitting then the whip is useless (you can't use it on them if they aren't part of the program), so its time to bring out the carrot. I am not writing that you compromise your core values, but maybe make it fun again so that they want to be there.
Practice is work, most people don't like work, make it so they like it. Weightroom can be work and fun too, if presented in the right way. Leadership training sounds like a load to me, and to a younger me it would've sounded worse, but if you want them there you have to make it so they want to be there.
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Post by natenator on Sept 29, 2016 20:36:52 GMT -6
Get some really hot female managers and trainers lol
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Post by StraightFlexin on Sept 30, 2016 5:37:36 GMT -6
Also have to remember that winning more games isn't just going to pay off the following year. Taking over a struggling program, we made the playoffs 2 years ago, won districts last year (best finish in school history), and do not see any number changes in the High School. The middle school numbers are rising big time.
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Post by CanyonCoach on Sept 30, 2016 7:45:56 GMT -6
Here is our ongoing trend: Once every decade we get a group of kids who sticks together and we are a play-off team for a couple of seasons. But for the other 8 years we could field a more competitive team that is walking the hallways instead of out for football. This has been the trend since 1966. I wasn't even a sparkle in my mom's eye.
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Post by CanyonCoach on Sept 30, 2016 7:47:06 GMT -6
Get some really hot female managers and trainers lol We tried this a couple of years ago (not on purpose) and we had a record number of injuries so they could sit and ice next to the managers.
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Post by fcboiler87 on Sept 30, 2016 8:03:58 GMT -6
Canyon,
I think based on other threads we're in similar situations. Culture is real and it is a very difficult thing to overcome and defeat and in some cases, impossible. There are those blue moon teams that come around and win based on talent. Then the next year they're gone and it's back to reality. Before the last 15 years where I am, there were 3 winning seasons in 40 years. The fortunes have turned largely since then, but we're are sliding back and the same cultural reasons are going to be why. I have fought like hell against all of it, but when a community is comfortable with its existence, they will fight you like hell right back. The talent is cycling down here big time and all other sports are struggling as well. We're the last ones to come to it, but naturally the HC gets the blame. Truth is there aren't very many good football jobs, especially where I am at so it's either deal with what you have or move on from it.
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