brexol
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Post by brexol on Sept 28, 2016 13:07:09 GMT -6
What do you do to your players if they receive a penalty for spiking, fighting, cursing or throwing helmets?
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Post by coachtua on Sept 28, 2016 22:16:59 GMT -6
Our back up QB threw his helmet on the sideline during a game, we made him dress and not play on the JV then not even dress for the Varsity game the following week. During practice all he did was roll the length of the field and back, sundials after each roll, and a gasser in between each roll. Same thing for our starting QB when he got ejected for throwing a punch. His game punishment was he was suspended for 2 games and not allowed to even wear a uniform or be on the sideline. He had to sit in the press box and chart for the spotter. Any other unsportsmanlike is usually just 200 yards of up downs every 5 yards.
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Post by nstanley on Sept 28, 2016 22:23:30 GMT -6
What do you do to your players if they receive a penalty for spiking, fighting, cursing or throwing helmets? A friend of mine makes kids who commit penalties apologize to their team. If they think it was a bogus penalty, they can vote to "acquit" the accused. i can't remember if there was a punishment other than apologizing to the team. |
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Post by rosey65 on Sept 29, 2016 6:42:14 GMT -6
What do you do to your players if they receive a penalty for spiking, fighting, cursing or throwing helmets? A friend of mine makes kids who commit penalties apologize to their team. If they think it was a bogus penalty, they can vote to "acquit" the accused. i can't remember if there was a punishment other than apologizing to the team. ^^I like this!! Might add this to our repertoire... We dont do anything outside of any state-sanctioned punishment. We just leave it up for team accountability. Mistakes happen, and dumb mistakes can cost a game. Disdain and shame from the sideline is usually enough to curb anything egregious. Our LT threw a "punch" week 1, had to miss the next week. We gave him sh!t for it, but it didn't interfere with weekly game prep. That week's starter got every rep with the 1's, and the suspended kid never left the field during scout team. I'd rather spend time on getting a kid better as opposed to wasting practice time beating a dead horse. Kid throws his helmet on the sideline? He picks it up, puts it back on, shuts his mouth, and mentally gets back in the game. He doesnt? He doesnt go back in. We usually dont do many therapy sessions during a game... |
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Post by PSS on Sept 29, 2016 9:49:12 GMT -6
Normally they run gassers for personal fouls / unsportsmanlike penalties. 15 gassers for one, 30 for two.
We had a JV player spike a football after scoring a TD, got an unsportsmanlike penalty. We didn't make him run. It was his first football game he had ever played. He had been a soccer player his entire life. The only football he had seen was watching the NFL on TV. Coaches almost died laughing on the sidelines when he spiked it!
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Post by 53 on Sept 29, 2016 12:52:26 GMT -6
Our back up QB threw his helmet on the sideline during a game, we made him dress and not play on the JV then not even dress for the Varsity game the following week. During practice all he did was roll the length of the field and back, sundials after each roll, and a gasser in between each roll. Same thing for our starting QB when he got ejected for throwing a punch. His game punishment was he was suspended for 2 games and not allowed to even wear a uniform or be on the sideline. He had to sit in the press box and chart for the spotter. Any other unsportsmanlike is usually just 200 yards of up downs every 5 yards. I don't have too many rules but that's one of my main ones. If you throw your helmet, you're off the team. |
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Post by wheels1284 on Sept 30, 2016 6:04:54 GMT -6
Our back up QB threw his helmet on the sideline during a game, we made him dress and not play on the JV then not even dress for the Varsity game the following week. During practice all he did was roll the length of the field and back, sundials after each roll, and a gasser in between each roll. Same thing for our starting QB when he got ejected for throwing a punch. His game punishment was he was suspended for 2 games and not allowed to even wear a uniform or be on the sideline. He had to sit in the press box and chart for the spotter. Any other unsportsmanlike is usually just 200 yards of up downs every 5 yards. I don't have too many rules but that's one of my main ones. If you throw your helmet, you're off the team. So your best player who is a division 1 athlete throws his helmet because he just took a cheap shot and is flustered and you throw him off the team? |
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Post by jrk5150 on Sept 30, 2016 6:13:48 GMT -6
Absolute penalties for behavioral situations are silly. Too many complexities. It's lazy decision making and lazy leadership to just say if you do X then Y will happen. That could leave you with no opportunity to make sure the consequences fit the act. I hate zero tolerance policies - they are IMO evidence of incompetence.
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Post by 53 on Sept 30, 2016 6:32:54 GMT -6
I don't have too many rules but that's one of my main ones. If you throw your helmet, you're off the team. So your best player who is a division 1 athlete throws his helmet because he just took a cheap shot and is flustered and you throw him off the team? Yes, It's the most important and expensive piece of equipment that they have as a player, and it's a safety hazard if it hits someone else. I get being frustrated, but they've got to control their emotions. If their wife/significant other pisses them, they've got to be able to control their emotions. I view it as a life skill. I've only had to enforce it once, and that was at practice. My players know that I don't have a lot of rules, but the ones that we do have we believe in and sell why to the players. I don't give two shits about socks, shoe colors, arm bands, hair length, ear rings or a ton of other stuff people try to police. |
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Post by wheels1284 on Sept 30, 2016 6:37:39 GMT -6
So your best player who is a division 1 athlete throws his helmet because he just took a cheap shot and is flustered and you throw him off the team? Yes, It's the most important and expensive piece of equipment that they have as a player, and it's a safety hazard if it hits someone else. I get being frustrated, but they've got to control their emotions. If their wife/significant other pisses them, they've got to be able to control their emotions. I view it as a life skill. I've only had to enforce it once, and that was at practice. My players know that I don't have a lot of rules, but the ones that we do have we believe in and sell why to the players. I don't give two shits about socks, shoe colors, arm bands, hair length, ear rings or a ton of other stuff people try to police. Fair enough, personally I don't like having rules like that because to me there are always exceptions, but it's your program. |
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Post by 53 on Sept 30, 2016 6:49:07 GMT -6
I'll give you an exception, and every rule has them if you're a good coach. We had a bee one time fly into one of our players helmet, and it stung him. Natural reaction was to get the helmet off and freak out.
We laughed at it and didn't kick him off.
I also have a three strikes and you're off the team for unexcused absences during the season. I have a general out line of what an excused absence is, but I also give myself some wiggle room.
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 4, 2016 4:47:14 GMT -6
It depends on why they got one.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 4, 2016 8:42:58 GMT -6
It depends on why they got one. This... We received an unsportsmanlike penalty because after a punt returner ran the ball out of the back of the end zone after a score. He literally took three steps out of the back of the end-zone and they flagged him. Should he have done it? No. Was it against the rules? Yes. Are we going to punish him for it? No. He'll get chewed out a bit because he just put the team in a bad spot but that's it. However, if a kid is fighting, cussing, or chucking his helmet, it won't matter if he is flagged for it. We hear it/see it and he's in trouble. He will be benched for the next game, PERIOD. And, he'd better have a good week of practice, even though he can't play, or he'll just sit another game. |
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Post by dubber on Oct 4, 2016 9:22:49 GMT -6
I usually MF them the first time.
I don't know it helps but I feel better.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Oct 4, 2016 9:25:36 GMT -6
There are school rules in place.
Ejection for fighting is rest of that game and the next one PLUS another game for our school code. If it's bogus I can appeal to our state association and our school. Basically 3 games suspension for fighting. If that's not a deterrent I don't know what is.
Everything a kid does shouldn't be a life sentence. Drugs, stealing is a suspension from team, maybe able to come back next season. There's ALWAYS an opportunity to comeback unless you're talking arrests...then you're done.
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