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Post by carookie on Sept 16, 2016 11:25:04 GMT -6
JV game, 29-28 losing team has the ball on and connects on a pass to get the ball on the goalline with only a few seconds left. However, on that play a defensive player (for the team in the lead) has a catastrophic injury. Life flight was called, player taken to the hospital. 1st and goal on the 1 foot line, down 1, time for 1 last play; the team on offense takes a knee out of respect for the injured opponent- and thus accepting a defeat. Was this the right thing to do? Would you do this or support it? Is there a threshold of score/injury making this right whereas it would be wrong in other cases? Does this diminish the value of winning and losing or does it place too much value on it- ie your teammate was hurt so in condolences we give you a win (as if that is of relative value)? Just some thoughts I was hoping to hear what people felt about this. www.cbssports.com/general/news/watch-high-school-football-team-loses-on-purpose-after-opposing-players-injury/ |
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Post by blb on Sept 16, 2016 11:29:38 GMT -6
No right or wrong answer. Don't honestly know what I would do in that situation.
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Post by joris85 on Sept 16, 2016 12:12:07 GMT -6
No right or wrong answer. Don't honestly know what I would do in that situation. Neither would I, but I do believe this coach understands that JV is about teaching and not as much about winning or losing, so I have a lot of respect for the decision. I doubt many coaches would do the same in a varsity game though. |
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Post by poundtherock1 on Sept 16, 2016 12:19:29 GMT -6
It seemed a little strange to me. And as an aside, I don't like how the footballscoop guy is so forward with his opinions. To me that isn't how an aspiring networking news webpage should operate it's social media, especially reading over some of the back and forths he has on twitter.
I don't know what I would have done in that situation. Heck, as a player, I don't think I would have liked to suffer an injury like that and hear the other team essentially gave us a win.
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Post by spos21ram on Sept 16, 2016 12:26:57 GMT -6
I don't understand what taking a knee and giving the team a win has anyting to do with the injury. There's many other ways to give an injured kid respect. I honestly don't think taking a knee would even cross my mind.
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Post by John Knight on Sept 16, 2016 13:27:53 GMT -6
I saw that on Yahoo and thought, WTF That is total Bull$hit in my book. F that touchy feely crap!
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Post by blb on Sept 16, 2016 13:32:31 GMT -6
I doubt many coaches would do the same in a varsity game though.
Agreed.
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Post by coachgtiller on Sept 16, 2016 13:35:36 GMT -6
I don't understand what taking a knee and giving the team a win has anyting to do with the injury. There's many other ways to give an injured kid respect. I honestly don't think taking a knee would even cross my mind. I agree, clap for the kid as he's carted off the field. Then go for the win, your kids busted their butts for 4 quarters. Give them a chance to get a W. Yes, it's an unfortunate position but I don't believe taking the knee is showing respect to the kid. Just my $.02. |
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Post by IronmanFootball on Sept 16, 2016 13:46:53 GMT -6
When I thought it was varsity I was completely dumbfounded. When I saw it was JV I was still like... what? Film him a "get well soon" video but some kids never have a chance to win at anything, don't take that chance away. Winning at tic tac toe feels good.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 16, 2016 13:51:51 GMT -6
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Post by dubber on Sept 16, 2016 14:02:14 GMT -6
Game should have been called after the air flight.
As a JV coach, they can count it however they want, but 1.) we aren't going to play another down after someone almost dies, and 2.) we aren't going to take away a chance for our kids to win a ball game.
So I make sure that young man gets on the helicopter, while my team is getting loaded up.
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Post by freezeoption on Sept 17, 2016 10:06:23 GMT -6
its jv, wth, if it was a varsity game I'm sure they would have gone for the win
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 17, 2016 10:37:07 GMT -6
Game should have been called after the air flight. As a JV coach, they can count it however they want, but 1.) we aren't going to play another down after someone almost dies, and 2.) we aren't going to take away a chance for our kids to win a ball game. So I make sure that young man gets on the helicopter, while my team is getting loaded up. That is what confuses me. If that was what the coach was going to do, why not just tell the refs before hand..rather than endure the waiting process of an airlift? |
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Post by IronmanFootball on Sept 18, 2016 8:51:06 GMT -6
Right coachd5085- don't play or play and win. But don't half ass it all |
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Post by fantom on Sept 18, 2016 10:13:03 GMT -6
Game should have been called after the air flight. As a JV coach, they can count it however they want, but 1.) we aren't going to play another down after someone almost dies, and 2.) we aren't going to take away a chance for our kids to win a ball game. So I make sure that young man gets on the helicopter, while my team is getting loaded up. That is what confuses me. If that was what the coach was going to do, why not just tell the refs before hand..rather than endure the waiting process of an airlift? Maybe they did but some overly officious official or admin told them that they had to finish the game. |
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Post by dubber on Sept 18, 2016 13:39:13 GMT -6
That is what confuses me. If that was what the coach was going to do, why not just tell the refs before hand..rather than endure the waiting process of an airlift? Maybe they did but some overly officious official or admin told them that they had to finish the game. This is possible. The one thing we have, that the coach in this situation did not have, is time to think about it. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Sept 18, 2016 13:48:53 GMT -6
Maybe they did but some overly officious official or admin told them that they had to finish the game. This is possible. The one thing we have, that the coach in this situation did not have, is time to think about it. Actually, if a player was airlifted off of the field, I would say that the coach in this situation had a lot more time to think about it than most of the posters spent before making their posts. |
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Post by dubber on Sept 18, 2016 14:18:05 GMT -6
This is possible. The one thing we have, that the coach in this situation did not have, is time to think about it. Actually, if a player was airlifted off of the field, I would say that the coach in this situation had a lot more time to think about it than most of the posters spent before making their posts. I wouldn't be thinking about the game during those moments. |
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Post by dytmook on Sept 18, 2016 14:44:00 GMT -6
On JV I think I would talk to the other coach and pull the kids off the field and call it a day. I think the kids after something like that would not be in the right mind to play even a down. I don't think I'd be really worried about my call either.
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Post by airraider on Sept 19, 2016 15:13:08 GMT -6
Yea... in that situation, we are pulling the kids off the field in a JV game. Varsity game we may face a fine for a forfeit or something. But, JV, its over right there.
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