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Post by brutus8367 on Jan 9, 2007 0:12:50 GMT -6
The big 10 is finished...I hope the Mich and OSu fans have the dvds of the past nat championships...The big 10 will be nothing better than the mac ... This is painful because im a big 10 guy... Talk about coaching talent... We saw it in the bowls...and none of it came from the big 10..Jim Tressel and Lloyd Carr will be doing ESPN with Lou Holtz in about 3 years. Never saw a worse performance by two teams and two coaching staffs as OSU and the UM.
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Post by gregodagr8 on Jan 9, 2007 0:27:44 GMT -6
Easy there coach....I am a die hard Michigan fan and I will give both USC and Florida their props for games well played. However, I believe BOTH games would have been slightly different if these games were played in the course of the season. I don't care how good you are 51 days off affects your team. Go ahead defend that it doesn't....Say Florida had the same days off. They played 2 extra games! I believe either all teams have a championship conference game or none do. Is it fair that some college teams play 12 games and others play 10? I mean if Michigan played Po-Dunk University as an extra game Florida doesn't get the points to jump and vice versa if Florida never plays the Arkansas game they don't go the the National Championship either. The Big-10 is not done in fact it is strong and they will be back again next year so all you people get off the SEC bandwagon and be proud of your team and conference whatever it may be.
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Post by tog on Jan 9, 2007 0:52:46 GMT -6
osu got outcoached
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 9, 2007 6:14:57 GMT -6
I am a diehard OSU fan and I would agree that on this night Urban Meyer outcoached Tressel. I did see the same Ohio State team from the previous 12 games. Even after Ginn's run back right off the bat you could see there was no life in the Buckeyes. Now im not making excuses because they got it handed to them tonight, but does anyone think it has something to do with the layoff? It looked like tonight that it not only effected the players but the coaches as well. Tressel looked as though he forgot how to call effective plays the whole first half and by then it was over. I think tonight as much as anything is good evidence that the bowl season has got way out of control with its length. No team should have to wait 51 days to play a game, especially for the national championship. You do not see the NFL take almost two months off inbetween the conference championships and the super bowl. Some of these bowls are being played in front of half filled stadiums and shows that no one cares about these two teams playing. I love football but I do not care that two 6-6 teams play in the Mineke Diamond walnut San Diego credit union poinsetta GMAC.com.org Bowl. Let the teams have a couple weeks off and play the game right before Christmas or the week before. There are so many "get em u[" speeches a coach can give in that long a time frame. Do not make players from both squads wait forever to play so teams and sponsers can make as much money as possible. Congratualtions to Florida and In Tressel we still trust. The buckeyes will be back sooner than later!!
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Post by hchscoachtom on Jan 9, 2007 6:23:40 GMT -6
Here, Here Panther. I agree. 51 days is an eternity in trying to keep a team, coaching staff focused. Even Barry A. commented that while at Wisc. they had 41 days off, and they came out sluggish too. I agree this bowl bash has gotten way out of hand.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 9, 2007 7:07:46 GMT -6
Wonder how long it will take for the Urban to (insert NFL team here) stories to start
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Post by kkennedy on Jan 9, 2007 7:32:32 GMT -6
Wonder how long it will take for the Urban to (insert NFL team here) stories to start not sure it would with his offense being so different from what you see in the N.F.L. Maybe if an N.F.L team wanted to run a combination of spread,option, single wing for an offense they might make a run at him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2007 7:58:09 GMT -6
You know it's amazing how when someone gets thier a$$ beat, the excuses pour in worse than a tsunami . Face it OSU, 51 day layoff, Ted Ginn not there, whatever...you got your butts handed to you by the best team in the nation...nuff said. Now I'm not a Cane fan but I'm a fan of any team in the GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA and for OSU fans you got what you deserved after ya'll stole the national championship from Miami a few years back. Ain't it funny how this ol' world WILL come full circle. GOT URBAN...GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Duece
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Post by CoachJ on Jan 9, 2007 8:46:20 GMT -6
I think it is a little premature to say the Big 10 is finished. Everything is cyclical and this is a one year sample. They will be back.
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Post by wildcat on Jan 9, 2007 8:49:11 GMT -6
You know it's amazing how when someone gets thier a$$ beat, the excuses pour in worse than a tsunami . Face it OSU, 51 day layoff, Ted Ginn not there, whatever...you got your butts handed to you by the best team in the nation...nuff said. Now I'm not a Cane fan but I'm a fan of any team in the GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA and for OSU fans you got what you deserved after ya'll stole the national championship from Miami a few years back. Ain't it funny how this ol' world WILL come full circle. GOT URBAN...GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Duece Wow...you are truly a paradigm of class.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 9, 2007 9:08:52 GMT -6
You know it's amazing how when someone gets thier a$$ beat, the excuses pour in worse than a tsunami . Face it OSU, 51 day layoff, Ted Ginn not there, whatever...you got your butts handed to you by the best team in the nation...nuff said. Now I'm not a Cane fan but I'm a fan of any team in the GREAT STATE OF FLORIDA and for OSU fans you got what you deserved after ya'll stole the national championship from Miami a few years back. Ain't it funny how this ol' world WILL come full circle. GOT URBAN...GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Duece Hey buddy why dont you read all the post before going off on your little rant. First thing I said was that Tressel got outcoached by Meyer. I also congratulated Florida on a great season. I am willing to believe 9 out 10 think this joke of a bowl season we have is way to long. No team should have to wait 51 or 37 days or even 20 between games. Get the teams together and get the game on. You are showing one reason why many people do not have alsways have the utmost respect for people out of Florida. You talk about excuses excuses and then you throw one in there at the end saying Ohio State stole a national championship for Miami. I seem to remember many people in that game saying Miami would win by 21 and it would be a laugher. You do not base an entire game on one game. If Miami would have taken care of business like everyone from Florida and the "experts" thought they would, this discussion would never occur. Ohio State did not steal anything a couple years ago. The game was played and Miami lost. This year, the game was played and Florida won. My congrats go to that team and coaches. You have a hell of a team down there. Now, use a little bit of humility learn how to win with class. By the way if it was not for Ohio you would not have Urban Meyer. He was born and raised in this great state!
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Post by kdcoach on Jan 9, 2007 9:42:01 GMT -6
51 days is waaay to long. I'm a college football fan. Love the pageantry, the rivalries, and even all the pissin and moanin that goes on about whether or not there should be a Natl Championship. I think even if there isn't a championship the bowls should be over Jan. 1 just like they used to be. Once again, the Presidents of the Universities have kow-towed to t.v. and big money. That's the way it is right now. Too bad to, because I think in season or out of season Florida wins that game and we aren't even having this discussion.
Not slamming the Buckeyes, I just think they got beat by a better team. OSU doesn't match up well with them on the perimeter. Credit Urban Myers and his staff for understanding that OSU would have to stay in a zone defense and giving it to his athletes underneath to make plays in space. Also, Florida defense waaaay too fast up front for OSU O-line.
OSU had a fantastic season and have nothing to be ashamed of. Just lost to a more athletic and (at least last nite) physical football team. It happens.
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Post by knighter on Jan 9, 2007 9:45:56 GMT -6
Big 10 is dead? Dead? Dead? Big 10 Dead?
LOL
We'll see, I ain't buying it. The dynasty in Florida is still the Canes no matter how you wanna slice it. (sorry Gators) And too many quality coaches in the Big 10 to count them out just yet.
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Post by jaspercoach on Jan 9, 2007 10:27:04 GMT -6
I don't agree. Don't get me wrong I have great respect for Meyer and Tressel both, but that was not the same Ohio State that played all season. They were flat, they looked like they had no business being in a championship. Maybe if they had shown up to play Mayer would have outcoached Tressel, but last night I think the Gator players just plain ran over the OSU players.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Jan 9, 2007 10:38:20 GMT -6
I don't agree. Don't get me wrong I have great respect for Meyer and Tressel both, but that was not the same Ohio State that played all season. They were flat, they looked like they had no business being in a championship. Maybe if they had shown up to play Mayer would have outcoached Tressel, but last night I think the Gator players just plain ran over the OSU players. Ultimately, coach Tress is to blame. It's his job to get them prepared. Sorry, and this is coming from a diehard Big 10 (Go Blue) fan... They mentioned a stat last night- Meyer vs. teams he has 7+days to prepare for: 21-1 A-mazing... PS- Big 10 is not done fellas- we had a horrible year but we're far from finished.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2007 10:44:02 GMT -6
All I'm saying is excuses are like behinds, we all got em'. And you are right, that was a stab in the back about the OSU-UM game a few years back, but that was a real good OSU team. This OSU team is overrated, by far. There is something about teams that win like the Florida team did last night, and the team that beat UM in 2002 (I think). There are actually a lot of similarities in the style of those 2 teams. Both had average offenses (UF most of the year was not really dominating), both played GREAT defense, and both had excellent special teams. I think a lot of the so called "experts" get caught up in all the smoke and mirrors of flashy offenses and make thier predictions based on that. As most of us already know DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS! The 4 cups of coffee I had this morning didn't help in my earlier posts, but hey I'm a Gator and to quote: "Some people say it's lonely at the top....well, they've never been a Gator!"
duece
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Post by wingtcard on Jan 9, 2007 11:21:58 GMT -6
Big Ten needs to adjust their schedule and add a championship game like most conferences have already done. Then they can't complain about dropping in rankings while their teams sit idle and they can't use 51 days as an excuse.
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Post by tog on Jan 9, 2007 11:25:43 GMT -6
I don't agree. Don't get me wrong I have great respect for Meyer and Tressel both, but that was not the same Ohio State that played all season. They were flat, they looked like they had no business being in a championship. Maybe if they had shown up to play Mayer would have outcoached Tressel, but last night I think the Gator players just plain ran over the OSU players. i wasn't really even talking about the "fired up" part of the game strictly the x and o's looked to me like florida had some things that OSU didn't have answers for protection wise coverage wise and just plain old tendency wise
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Post by khalfie on Jan 9, 2007 11:30:12 GMT -6
All the Big 10 has to do...
Is play Big 10 ball when they meet up with the SEC...
Wisconsin did what they do best... pound the ball ... won the game! PSU did what they do best... pound the ball.. won the game!
Ohio St... tried to out pass and Speed the itty bitty gators... instead of doing what they do best.. pound the ball.
You can't out run the gators... you have to run through them.
This game rest on the poor preparation and coaching of Tressel. The one series they scored on... they did what they do best... pound the ball... broke one for 20+ td.
The Big 10 is not going anywhere, but back to the drawing boards... to do, what it is they do best! Pound the ball!
Its how they beat the supped up miami!
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 9, 2007 11:31:15 GMT -6
Im not sure anything they drew was going to stop Percy Harvin last night. He was head and shoulders above the Ohio State defense last night
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2007 11:33:16 GMT -6
Amen wingtcard, amen. I think that is the biggest reason I dislike the Big 10. The "big-boy" conferences do, and I think it shows. I'm all for a playoff system though. Don't you guys think that there is a way they could use all of these bowls as playoff games? I mean we let teams in now, that have 6 wins or better, couldn't we use all of the bowl games out there as playoff games? The money would still be there, but maybe in a different fashion. I don't know, I haven't really thought it through, but there's got to be a better way. Then I think the only thing that would be controversial would be officiating! GO GATORS! 2007 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS Duece
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Post by wingt74 on Jan 9, 2007 11:35:30 GMT -6
Hmmm, Urban to the Falcons!! OOps, to late
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Post by tog on Jan 9, 2007 11:37:05 GMT -6
seems like the big ten NOT having a conference championship game hasn't hurt them much
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Post by jaspercoach on Jan 10, 2007 10:52:38 GMT -6
I don't agree. Don't get me wrong I have great respect for Meyer and Tressel both, but that was not the same Ohio State that played all season. They were flat, they looked like they had no business being in a championship. Maybe if they had shown up to play Mayer would have outcoached Tressel, but last night I think the Gator players just plain ran over the OSU players. i wasn't really even talking about the "fired up" part of the game strictly the x and o's looked to me like florida had some things that OSU didn't have answers for protection wise coverage wise and just plain old tendency wise That's true. And whitemike makes a good point also. Ultimately it was Tressel's responsibilty to get them prepared.
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