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Post by cbh2010 on Aug 9, 2016 11:01:21 GMT -6
Hey guys, just joined the sight and was wondering if I could get some advice from some people that have been there. I'll give ya a little backstory. I'm 24, Navy veteran, married, one kid. Played middle school football, quit my freshman year because I just wasn't very good and hadn't developed like everyone else yet. I've always loved the game. It's year round for me, reading up on what's going on with my team, rewatching games, just love being around it period. Ive always wanted to be a coach, just has always been a dream of mine. Would also love the teaching aspect of it. I've helped coach my little brothers rec teams before, but never had a huge hand in it because of my work schedule. So anyway, I've finally decided to go back to school, going to get my bachelors in history I think, haven't totally decided, but the end goal is to coach football. What do I need to be doing in the mean time? I don't have real experience playing or coaching. What do I need to be doing so when the time comes to get a job I can have something on my resume that could allow me to coach? Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Post by underdog21 on Aug 9, 2016 11:06:54 GMT -6
I would contact one of your local high or middle schools head football coaches. Introduce yourself and let them know you want help out with any aspect of the football program. Explain you are looking to become a coach and want to learn the ins and outs.
The biggest advice I can give you is work your butt off. Do all the little things you can and help out at every chance you get. Focus on the technique when you start coaching. When you are given a position to coach, learn every aspect of that position. Understand everyone has different beliefs and ways of getting things done. Be open them.
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Post by brophy on Aug 9, 2016 11:12:08 GMT -6
go to a clinic next Feb - April.....hang out with some coaches, network. In the interim, read / search this message board. The best thing you can do is ask yourself questions to beat up whatever answers you think you have.
If you're seeking a teaching degree to coach, you really need to re-evaluate this. Your education (dollars) could be used for a much better return
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Post by raymul313 on Aug 9, 2016 11:13:33 GMT -6
Also if you are going to become a teacher understand that is your job first, second and third, the coaching is a bonus. I coach but have little interest in becoming a teacher and have made it work. Recognize that if you have a relationship with the kids and find out their motivations it can make things easier. Good Luck and stay active on this forum!
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Post by coachpech on Aug 9, 2016 11:14:18 GMT -6
Pretty much exactly like Underdog stated. If all the High Schools are full of volunteers already then look at the youth level. Here in Iowa it's Youth Sports Foundation, I'm sure there's something like that everywhere. It's a great way to get your foot in the door, most coaches have younger kids that may not be to the middle school or high school level yet and that gives you a perfect opportunity to meet them in a different way. Good Luck!
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Post by cbh2010 on Aug 9, 2016 11:27:27 GMT -6
go to a clinic next Feb - April.....hang out with some coaches, network. In the interim, read / search this message board. The best thing you can do is ask yourself questions to beat up whatever answers you think you have. If you're seeking a teaching degree to coach, you really need to re-evaluate this. Your education (dollars) could be used for a much better return The high school I graduated from, all the coaches taught, and I've taught younger kids before with some after school programs and I do enjoy that. But I do want to coach. That's the dream. Are you saying it's not a good idea to try and do both?
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Post by coachklee on Aug 9, 2016 11:35:48 GMT -6
go to a clinic next Feb - April.....hang out with some coaches, network. In the interim, read / search this message board. The best thing you can do is ask yourself questions to beat up whatever answers you think you have. If you're seeking a teaching degree to coach, you really need to re-evaluate this. Your education (dollars) could be used for a much better return The high school I graduated from, all the coaches taught, and I've taught younger kids before with some after school programs and I do enjoy that. But I do want to coach. That's the dream. Are you saying it's not a good idea to try and do both? He's saying it pays {censored} in the grand scheme... My advice is call every coaching staff you have some kind of connection to or ask coaches you know who are some people you can contact & start volunteering somewhere. Volunteers that show up everyday & run the drills their taught within the offensive, defensive & special teams are a welcomed addition in MOST cases. Get started as soon as you can find the opportunity.
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Post by coachwoodall on Aug 9, 2016 11:37:47 GMT -6
Go to nfhslearn.com and take the courses to become a certified coach. Some are free, some have a cost (around $50), but having those can help you show you're serious. Many of them are required by the state associations and/or school disticts to be on staff.
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Post by brophy on Aug 9, 2016 11:44:45 GMT -6
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Post by cbh2010 on Aug 9, 2016 11:46:07 GMT -6
Ok guys, this is literally more advice than iv found in a week of googling haha I really do appreciate pointing me in the right direction.
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Post by utchuckd on Aug 10, 2016 6:29:26 GMT -6
If you want to coach; COACHIf you want to teach; TEACHDon't teach because you just want to COACH It's brophy's world, we're all just living in it.
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Post by tabs52 on Aug 10, 2016 15:54:25 GMT -6
cbh Thank you for your service, but there is a coach on our staff that didn't play since 9th grade, no real experience coaching or with football except as the typical arm chair qb. I would suggest contactinga local and like said before volunteer whether its filming, equipment, etc.... I know my program would is always looking for help in terms of volunteers
Also I have to 100% with brophy
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Post by leethefootballcoach on Aug 10, 2016 20:10:36 GMT -6
You dont have to have played the game to be a good coach. Only 19% of NFL coaches played in the league (stat is couple years old). Bellicheck, john madden, Mike Leach, never played. Todd hayley played golf in college. You just have to love the game and work hard. That doesnt go unnoticed. Learn everything you can and if you can relate to kids and make them play hard, coaching will be fun. Here is an article about college coaches who never played in college. bleacherreport.com/articles/2038878-top-10-college-football-head-coaches-who-never-played/page/2
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Post by dubber on Aug 10, 2016 20:24:43 GMT -6
If I were you, I would start by learning offensive line.
Learning that makes you very useful, and then go from there.
If you come to a staff and ask to help the OL, they will be more likely to say yes than if you ask to help qbs.
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Post by cbh2010 on Nov 2, 2016 19:33:42 GMT -6
One problem I'm running into in my state is you have to be a staff member and teach to coach at our high schools. So the only way to get around coaching without teaching would maybe be private schools, which I haven't looked into yet, or college.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 22:51:22 GMT -6
I'm a volunteer coach at a private high school. I don't teach, I work in investments with a lot of clients on the east coast. So I rise at 4:00, go into work at 5:00 and work till 2:00. Then I haul ass home, change and go to practice till 6:30, meet with other coaches for 30-45 minutes and head home. I make a very good living in my job and it allows me to coach. Frankly, I'd hate teaching. If you don't think you'll love it forget it, find another way to coach.
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Post by JVD on Nov 3, 2016 7:41:44 GMT -6
I would contact one of your local high or middle schools head football coaches. Go to all of them. You will see so many different things of how a program is run. Some are completely organized; every minute accounted for and carefully planed and executed. Others are not. ///BREAK/// READ!!! This site has so much info on it..... I was on this site for about a month before I made my first post. ///BREAK/// Thank you for serving. My dad retired as a CMC...rode trident subs.....silly me joined the Army. I call him a bubble head...he calls me a grunt. Works out pretty well! HAHA!! JVD
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 10:29:45 GMT -6
One problem I'm running into in my state is you have to be a staff member and teach to coach at our high schools. So the only way to get around coaching without teaching would maybe be private schools, which I haven't looked into yet, or college. What state are you in? Ours has a similar rule, but there are a limited number of slots for "non-faculty" coaches. The MS don't have that rule because they have a hard time finding coaches and are grateful for all the help they can get. I would see if that's a possibility for you. If not, volunteer to do stats, film, manage equipment, etc. That'll get you a better feel for the game and how things work, as well as help you make contacts. You may even be able to do that at your college. Again, don't teach just to coach, but if you like teaching it's great. I absolutely hated my first years in the profession, when I was an English teacher and had a bunch of nonsensical pressure to deliver test scores. Now I teach Special Ed and really like my job, but I'm also fortunate to be in a good school. A bad school (or just a bad administrator) will burn a teacher out overnight, and they have to consciously rehire you each year now that tenure is nonexistent/impossible for new teachers in most places. It can also be a minefield of crazy parents, testing pressure, micromanagement, and mountains of paperwork to juggle. In the right place, though, it's a nice gig to have compared to a lot of the other jobs you could be doing.
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Post by fantom on Nov 3, 2016 10:37:43 GMT -6
go to a clinic next Feb - April.....hang out with some coaches, network. In the interim, read / search this message board. The best thing you can do is ask yourself questions to beat up whatever answers you think you have. If you're seeking a teaching degree to coach, you really need to re-evaluate this. Your education (dollars) could be used for a much better return The high school I graduated from, all the coaches taught, and I've taught younger kids before with some after school programs and I do enjoy that. But I do want to coach. That's the dream. Are you saying it's not a good idea to try and do both? No. If the ONLY reason that you're going into teaching is so that you can coach, that's a bad idea. If you really like doing both, as I did, go to it.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Nov 3, 2016 11:01:36 GMT -6
You're going to deal with so much stress teaching if you don't really want to teach it isn't worth a thing.
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Post by funkfriss on Nov 3, 2016 11:04:05 GMT -6
Already been stated, but I'll echo.
DON'T GET INTO TEACHING JUST TO COACH
You have to have a passion for teaching to get into teaching. Let me put it this way, if our state made it mandatory to have an office job starting at $27,000 where I'm sitting at a desk doing idiot work for 8 hours a day to make money for a bunch of rich a-holes I couldn't care less about just so I could coach I would definitely not be coaching.
I love coaching, but it's not worth hating my underpaid day job.
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Post by CanyonCoach on Nov 4, 2016 12:59:46 GMT -6
If you are going to college and they have a football team you may be able to help them out too...some places will take student managers and will let them be involved with meetings (as long as they know their role and don't become an irritation).
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