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Post by jturner on Jul 5, 2016 19:55:47 GMT -6
Coaches,
We had out first scrimmage last Thursday with a team on our schedule that we should be able to compete with. However, that didn't happen. We forgot most of the things we had been working on all summer. (Started May 31st) Sadly, these were mostly easy things like running the right route or knowing when and when not to reverse out on certain run plays. The worst was the secondary knew their rules, but couldn't tell me why they weren't following them. After I thought about it over a few cold ones, I came to the conclusion that most of these errors were caused mental lapses when the bullets started flying.
What are some ways you guys train your players to keep their wits about them when the bullets start flying? I know some of it is reinforcing and drilling techniques in practice, but are there any other things I should be doing?
Thanks ahead of time.
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orion320
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Post by orion320 on Jul 6, 2016 11:16:02 GMT -6
Challenge the kids in practice by making them think about their assignment and allowing the kids to ask questions. Walkthrough, walkthrough, walkthrough, plays multiple times, no 5 or 10, but 15 to 20 times in a row, until all kids know their assignment. If a kid makes a mistake, do another rep.
Are you 100% sure they were doing it correct in practice? Sometimes coaches get caught just watching the ball and not the secondary and wide receivers, I know I get caught watching the play from time to time.
But good news is that it is early so you have plenty of time to fix it.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Jul 6, 2016 11:22:47 GMT -6
Our scrimmage is always kind of bad, actually. And it's mainly due to the first real live action of the year.
We do our best to replicate the situations in practice, but when there's officials and a different team in front of a crowd, things are different.
Hell, we scored a total of 20 points between 2 games a few years ago. Against absolute garbage teams. Started the season against a much better team, and ended up scoring 65 points.
You do everything you can to make it "feel real" but until it's actually real, you can only get close.
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Post by jturner on Jul 6, 2016 16:24:39 GMT -6
Challenge the kids in practice by making them think about their assignment and allowing the kids to ask questions. Walkthrough, walkthrough, walkthrough, plays multiple times, no 5 or 10, but 15 to 20 times in a row, until all kids know their assignment. If a kid makes a mistake, do another rep. Are you 100% sure they were doing it correct in practice? Sometimes coaches get caught just watching the ball and not the secondary and wide receivers, I know I get caught watching the play from time to time. But good news is that it is early so you have plenty of time to fix it. Offensively, I think they are minus the WRs, but defensively I think you are correct in that they probably aren't getting it 100% correct. I like your idea of getting mass reps though. That seems like it will help.
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Post by jturner on Jul 6, 2016 16:28:24 GMT -6
Our scrimmage is always kind of bad, actually. And it's mainly due to the first real live action of the year. We do our best to replicate the situations in practice, but when there's officials and a different team in front of a crowd, things are different. Hell, we scored a total of 20 points between 2 games a few years ago. Against absolute garbage teams. Started the season against a much better team, and ended up scoring 65 points. You do everything you can to make it "feel real" but until it's actually real, you can only get close. This is what I'm afraid of. Unfortunately, we are probably one of those garbage teams right now. I'm hoping we can get competitive through discipline and knowing what to do. We don't have the stuff in our pants to be good enough otherwise. I'm trying to make sure the emphasis I'm placing on being disciplined and knowing what to do leads to some confidence and success. Hard to battle the ole beaten dog syndrome.
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Post by fantom on Jul 6, 2016 17:24:00 GMT -6
Coaches, We had out first scrimmage last Thursday with a team on our schedule that we should be able to compete with. However, that didn't happen. We forgot most of the things we had been working on all summer. (Started May 31st) Sadly, these were mostly easy things like running the right route or knowing when and when not to reverse out on certain run plays. The worst was the secondary knew their rules, but couldn't tell me why they weren't following them. After I thought about it over a few cold ones, I came to the conclusion that most of these errors were caused mental lapses when the bullets started flying. What are some ways you guys train your players to keep their wits about them when the bullets start flying? I know some of it is reinforcing and drilling techniques in practice, but are there any other things I should be doing? Thanks ahead of time. Do you watch film as a team?
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Post by jturner on Jul 6, 2016 18:10:11 GMT -6
Coaches, We had out first scrimmage last Thursday with a team on our schedule that we should be able to compete with. However, that didn't happen. We forgot most of the things we had been working on all summer. (Started May 31st) Sadly, these were mostly easy things like running the right route or knowing when and when not to reverse out on certain run plays. The worst was the secondary knew their rules, but couldn't tell me why they weren't following them. After I thought about it over a few cold ones, I came to the conclusion that most of these errors were caused mental lapses when the bullets started flying. What are some ways you guys train your players to keep their wits about them when the bullets start flying? I know some of it is reinforcing and drilling techniques in practice, but are there any other things I should be doing? Thanks ahead of time. Do you watch film as a team? We haven't been able to yet. I finally got a couple of girls to come and manage last week, so we'll be able to do this more. We did film part of the scrimmage, and I plan on watching that when we get back from Dead Week. I've also started to put together game clips from old stops on how to do some of the things we are doing. I'm hoping visually see what to do helps as well.
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Post by coachjo14 on Jul 7, 2016 7:34:27 GMT -6
A guy I work with does one thing really well and that's run his meetings by using a hudl playlist. He would take the stuff you have from your scrimmage film and match it to film of your teams in the past doing it. So you can compare and contrast and they will see what it should look like.
So for us what he does is he puts the scout clips from previous games on there of their top plays then he cuts in reps of us playing the same plays at practice. Goes over the adjustments and critiques technique. I sat in on one of his meetings last year and I thought this was one of the best things he does.
I also agree getting mass reps is huge for us. Something we doing in pass coverage to speed things up instead of running routes our "receivers" point out where they are going. Vert, in, out, you can add body movements like turning around for a hitch. (have them keep their hands up so you can tell if your guys communicated and reacted right.) You can go half line if you only have one coach and need to see everyone work. you can do this at different tempos too (walk thru, half speed, full speed) and use it to teach them or rep them. One tip have your "receivers pump their arms for a second or two then point. If they point right away its often a quicker trigger then a route would be.)
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Post by wingtol on Jul 7, 2016 11:32:03 GMT -6
What type of scrimmage and what age level are we talking here?
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 7, 2016 16:37:16 GMT -6
A guy I work with does one thing really well and that's run his meetings by using a hudl playlist. He would take the stuff you have from your scrimmage film and match it to film of your teams in the past doing it. So you can compare and contrast and they will see what it should look like. So for us what he does is he puts the scout clips from previous games on there of their top plays then he cuts in reps of us playing the same plays at practice. Goes over the adjustments and critiques technique. I sat in on one of his meetings last year and I thought this was one of the best things he does. I also agree getting mass reps is huge for us. Something we doing in pass coverage to speed things up instead of running routes our "receivers" point out where they are going. Vert, in, out, you can add body movements like turning around for a hitch. (have them keep their hands up so you can tell if your guys communicated and reacted right.) You can go half line if you only have one coach and need to see everyone work. you can do this at different tempos too (walk thru, half speed, full speed) and use it to teach them or rep them. One tip have your "receivers pump their arms for a second or two then point. If they point right away its often a quicker trigger then a route would be.) That makes meetings so much easier. Especially for anything unusual, or to go over adjustments that distinguish our stuff from the opponents. You can do the same thing if you build a library of drill tape, and reuse the best stuff many times over. We have made certain pass drills more efficient by cutting out the stems. Obviously it only works on concepts that are largely vertical but you can save a lot of needless running if the receivers are just being used to facilitate someone else's drill.
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Post by coachjo14 on Jul 7, 2016 18:53:56 GMT -6
I agree with the stem cutting. We do some of that when working splitting verticals and things like that.
Yea I agree it makes things brisk for his guys. I think it is slightly different since he is our DB coach he just shows them their top pass concepts. and our alignments to their formations.
For my guys we had so much going on in all of our different checks and what teams favorite tendencies were I would generally go over things by formation and start with our practice film. Show us fitting the run, covering the pass etc and then show the opponents film that goes with those sets.
Basically it would be correcting all the new stuff we were doing that week the day after. Catch as much of it as you canon the field, but them seeing it is huge.
I would make notes on each clip in hudl so my guys could finish the part we couldn't watch together and see what they needed to do. I tried to get through as many reps of my starters as I could and backups get has as many reps due to how we split it up so they see themselves some too. Sorry 3's and 4's.
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Post by jturner on Jul 7, 2016 22:44:37 GMT -6
What type of scrimmage and what age level are we talking here? High School, Varsity Level, 400 kid High School. It was a 7 on 7 and 11 on 11. More worried about what happened in 11 on 11
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Post by wingtol on Jul 8, 2016 7:06:54 GMT -6
What type of scrimmage and what age level are we talking here? High School, Varsity Level, 400 kid High School. It was a 7 on 7 and 11 on 11. More worried about what happened in 11 on 11 Full pads? As far as mental mistakes the kids are making, is the system to complicated? Did you install too much? Go back to basics and keep it simple if they are making a lot of mistakes. Also are your drills focused on what they need to do on the field or are guys just running drills to run drills? Are your DB's working on reads and reaction as part of their indy? Are qbs and rbs working on hand offs in indy? Sometimes as many have pointed out the first time their is live action the players just crap their pants. Sometimes they need that first taste of action to get things going.
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Post by jturner on Jul 8, 2016 15:17:41 GMT -6
High School, Varsity Level, 400 kid High School. It was a 7 on 7 and 11 on 11. More worried about what happened in 11 on 11 Full pads? As far as mental mistakes the kids are making, is the system to complicated? Did you install too much? Go back to basics and keep it simple if they are making a lot of mistakes. Also are your drills focused on what they need to do on the field or are guys just running drills to run drills? Are your DB's working on reads and reaction as part of their indy? Are qbs and rbs working on hand offs in indy? Sometimes as many have pointed out the first time their is live action the players just crap their pants. Sometimes they need that first taste of action to get things going. Helmets and shoulder pads. System wise, we had 3 run plays: Power, Counter, and Outside Zone. Power and Counter use the same rules. Power looked good, counter, not so much. Outside Zone was ok. I knew it wasn't going to look good as we're still working on getting the feel for it. Pass wise, we had 5 pass plays. 3 were 5 step/play action. I carry them over for both to reduce teaching, and 2 quick passes. Of the 5 steps, they are only half field reads and the backside WRs have either a Post or a Drag. The quicks are mirrored. We've spent a lot of time doing routes on air with the QBs going through their progressions and throwing to a different WR in the pattern. We've repped the heck out of this and this is probably what I'm most disappointed in. Mostly because WRs didn't know which routes to run. Not sure if it's a lack of effort in knowing what to do, they're a little slower upstairs, or the game atmosphere really shook them. Drill wise, I'm guessing there is some of the running drills to run drills. This is something I'll make sure to focus on more with the coaches. My guess is that the DBs aren't working reads and reaction. Their coach is a rookie coach. so I'm guessing it's not something I've made clear for him to do. Totally my fault. We do work on handoffs in indy, but not everyday. The guys I've inherited have some wicked 3/4 or side arm deliveries that make it tough to consistently throw the ball accurately. I've been trying to focus more time on mechanics to fix this, and it is helping, but you're probably right in that handoffs have suffered as a result. I do want to say thanks for your post. It really has me thinking in terms of how we are structuring practice and the whys behind some of the things we were doing in the scrimmage.
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Post by nltdiego on Jul 15, 2016 21:15:14 GMT -6
A guy I work with does one thing really well and that's run his meetings by using a hudl playlist. He would take the stuff you have from your scrimmage film and match it to film of your teams in the past doing it. So you can compare and contrast and they will see what it should look like. So for us what he does is he puts the scout clips from previous games on there of their top plays then he cuts in reps of us playing the same plays at practice. Goes over the adjustments and critiques technique. I sat in on one of his meetings last year and I thought this was one of the best things he does. I also agree getting mass reps is huge for us. Something we doing in pass coverage to speed things up instead of running routes our "receivers" point out where they are going. Vert, in, out, you can add body movements like turning around for a hitch. (have them keep their hands up so you can tell if your guys communicated and reacted right.) You can go half line if you only have one coach and need to see everyone work. you can do this at different tempos too (walk thru, half speed, full speed) and use it to teach them or rep them. One tip have your "receivers pump their arms for a second or two then point. If they point right away its often a quicker trigger then a route would be.) Can you PM about this? I love hudl andn sounds interesting.
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Post by coachjo14 on Jul 21, 2016 20:55:49 GMT -6
A guy I work with does one thing really well and that's run his meetings by using a hudl playlist. He would take the stuff you have from your scrimmage film and match it to film of your teams in the past doing it. So you can compare and contrast and they will see what it should look like. So for us what he does is he puts the scout clips from previous games on there of their top plays then he cuts in reps of us playing the same plays at practice. Goes over the adjustments and critiques technique. I sat in on one of his meetings last year and I thought this was one of the best things he does. I also agree getting mass reps is huge for us. Something we doing in pass coverage to speed things up instead of running routes our "receivers" point out where they are going. Vert, in, out, you can add body movements like turning around for a hitch. (have them keep their hands up so you can tell if your guys communicated and reacted right.) You can go half line if you only have one coach and need to see everyone work. you can do this at different tempos too (walk thru, half speed, full speed) and use it to teach them or rep them. One tip have your "receivers pump their arms for a second or two then point. If they point right away its often a quicker trigger then a route would be.) Can you PM about this? I love hudl andn sounds interesting. Will do. Sorry I've been out of reach.
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