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Post by packattack on Jul 1, 2016 8:38:12 GMT -6
Coaches, for those of you that do one practice instead of two-a-days, what is your schedule for those practices? We do 7 on 7 and Install all summer, so to me, there is no need for two-a-days. I would like to see what your schedules look like. Thank you in advance.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jul 1, 2016 10:30:10 GMT -6
A few years ago, we had some serious heat index's to deal with. One year we tried to go early and late. The schedule was something like 8-10am and 6-8pm. It worked out ok.
The next year, same heat issues, but we went to one "time frame" with a break in between. It was something like 5-6:30, 30 min break, and then 7-8:30.
We had to be very efficient with our time, but the kids were fresh, we filmed practice segments and had pre-practice meetings to coach some stuff up.
Same mindset as you, I didn't see the need to go twice a day. We cut back on time and got better.
However, I had an older group, leadership, etc. In other words, some of the intangibles were in place that made the decision easier.
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Post by Wingtman on Jul 1, 2016 11:48:44 GMT -6
I hated two a days as a player, and don't really feel the need to do them as a coach. We'll practice for 3.5 hours in camp, 90 minutes of O, a 30 minute break, and 90 minutes of D. As we get closer to game week, probably drop to 2.5 hours-2 hours.
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Post by coachbdud on Jul 1, 2016 14:11:02 GMT -6
same as rest of summer
we lift
we do an hour of offense
we do 50-60 of Defense
only thing different would be trimming off an O or D session or 2, and adding in special teams time
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Post by raymul313 on Jul 1, 2016 14:32:32 GMT -6
I know we did a 2 hr morning session gave the kids an hour or so break between and then a 2 hr afternoon-ish session for about 2 weeks at the school I was at (in central NY).
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Post by s73 on Jul 1, 2016 18:58:00 GMT -6
Haven't done 2 a days in over 10 years and have NEVER missed them.
First 2 years as a HFC we did 2 days b/c "you're supposed to" & got SMOKED in season openers. Kids seemed flat (granted, small school with small numbers, so kids probably got over worked). Next 3 years at same school, no 2 a days & went 3-0 the next 3 seasons on openers.
Our schedule is pretty simple.
Mondays split O/D 2h45
Tuesdays O/90 D/45 ST/15
Wednesdays D/90 O/45 ST/15
Alternate everyday like this until game week.
Then Monday is split T/W same & Thursday is O/D walkthrough & practice all ST.
Has been pretty good to us.
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Post by packattack on Jul 2, 2016 8:27:17 GMT -6
Thank you guys!!
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Post by dblwngr on Jul 2, 2016 9:30:04 GMT -6
Just talked to the HC about this yesterday. In our state we're allowed to have doubles every other day. Really makes scheduling a pain in the a$$, tons of phone calls from parents asking what the schedule is daily.
We've decided to scrap doubles and just go with one long practice a day. Just seems to be far more pros than cons.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Jul 2, 2016 12:21:53 GMT -6
In Southern California it's almost impossible to do 2 a days. There is an 18 hour per week rule in place that includes weights, conditioning and meetings. You are not allowed to exceed the 18 hours. Makes it very tough to get in the film and weightroom if you decide to do a couple 2 a days a week.
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Post by orion320 on Jul 2, 2016 15:31:03 GMT -6
At the beginning of the season we have have 2 practice with just helmets, no more than 1.5 hours, 2 practices with just shoulder pads, no more than 1.5 hours, then finally we can have a full practice going no more than 2.5 hours unless you have a 1 hour break. Thus we have gone away from Double Sessions.
1. Dynamic Warmup + Ball Security Circuit
2. Special Teams
3. Off Indy
4. 7 on 7
5. Inside Run
6. Team/Sudden Change
7. Tackling Turnover Circuit or Escape from Baghdad
8. Def Indy
9. 7 on 7
10. Inside Run
11. Team/Sudden Change
12. War Drill
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Post by buckeye7525 on Jul 2, 2016 15:33:51 GMT -6
At the beginning of the season we have have 2 practice with just helmets, no more than 1.5 hours, 2 practices with just shoulder pads, no more than 1.5 hours, then finally we can have a full practice going no more than 2.5 hours unless you have a 1 hour break. Thus we have gone away from Double Sessions. 1. Dynamic Warmup + Ball Security Circuit 2. Special Teams 3. Off Indy 4. 7 on 7 5. Inside Run 6. Team/Sudden Change 7. Tackling Turnover Circuit or Escape from Baghdad 8. Def Indy 9. 7 on 7 10. Inside Run 11. Team/Sudden Change 12. War Drill Coach, how much time are allotted for each session? |
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Post by nltdiego on Jul 2, 2016 22:51:29 GMT -6
What is escape from Baghdad?
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Post by orion320 on Jul 3, 2016 7:54:49 GMT -6
10 -Dynamic Warmup + Ball Security Circuit
10 -Special Teams
15 - Off Indy
10 - 7 on 7
10 - Inside Run
20 - Team/Sudden Change
10 - Tackling Turnover Circuit or Escape from Baghdad
15 - Def Indy
15 - 7 on 7
10 - Inside Run
20 - Team/Sudden Change
10 - War Drill
This is typical of what we did last season after acclimiation days. Some days we stole time for offense or defense accordingly. Once school starts we did the basic template but only offense or defense in one day. We have team managers that have water available at all times.
Escape from Baghdad -
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Post by blb on Jul 3, 2016 8:00:59 GMT -6
orion, do you do Ball Security Circuit with all your players?
If so, why with linemen?
If not, what are linemen doing then?
When do your kids work on Specialties - Punting, Long Snapping, catching kicks, etc. - individually?
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Post by orion320 on Jul 3, 2016 9:52:14 GMT -6
orion, do you do Ball Security Circuit with all your players? If so, why with linemen? If not, what are linemen doing then? When do your kids work on Specialties - Punting, Long Snapping, catching kicks, etc. - individually? 1. Linemen will help in gauntlet if we are doing it, otherwise they get additional indy time - stances, starts, chutes, etc. 2. Specialties are completed during Pre-Practice time. During summer camp we spend some individual time during specials on these skills. |
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Post by blb on Jul 3, 2016 11:10:00 GMT -6
orion, do you do Ball Security Circuit with all your players? If so, why with linemen? If not, what are linemen doing then? When do your kids work on Specialties - Punting, Long Snapping, catching kicks, etc. - individually? 1. Linemen will help in gauntlet if we are doing it, otherwise they get additional indy time - stances, starts, chutes, etc. 2. Specialties are completed during Pre-Practice time. During summer camp we spend some individual time during specials on these skills.
"Pre-Practice time" (what we called "Specialties") wasn't on the outline you posted.
How long a period is that?
What are non-specialists doing then?
And, as fantom would ask, if you're on the field, isn't it "practice time" regardless of what you're doing?
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Post by orion320 on Jul 4, 2016 13:31:20 GMT -6
Pre-Practice/Specialties is usually 10-15. I am not sure why we call it Pre-Practice but I think it stems from the fact that the kids are expected to start this work on their own before the coaches officially begin practice.
At times throughout camp and the season we will do Special Team Circuits during Special Teams and Tackling Turnover Circuits.
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Post by blb on Jul 5, 2016 6:48:24 GMT -6
Pre-Practice/Specialties is usually 10-15. I am not sure why we call it Pre-Practice but I think it stems from the fact that the kids are expected to start this work on their own before the coaches officially begin practice.
So nobody is coaching kickers, punters, snappers, returners? Are coaches on the field during "Pre-Practice"?
What are kids who aren't specialists doing?
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Post by blb on Jul 5, 2016 7:45:35 GMT -6
Was once in a situation where a lot of our kids worked (basically had to) and had to rely on "walk-on" coaches who had day jobs so traditional Two-a-days weren't practical.
I accommodated them by practicing thusly:
15 minutes Specialties (Passing-Pass Pro or review previous day's installations)
15 minutes Warm-up
20 minutes Individual Offense
10 minutes Offensive Kicking Game
10 minutes Group Offense
20 minutes Team Offense
Hour Break
15 minutes Kicking Specialties (non-Specialists Individual Defense)
10 minutes Pursuit Drill, Interception Drill, Scoop 'n Score, or Block That Kick
20 minutes Individual Defense
10 minutes Defensive Kicking Game
10 minutes Group Defense
20 minutes Team Defense
5 minutes 4th Quarter
Frankly I didn't like it, didn't feel like we had enough time. But if we hadn't done it this way we would have lost some players and coaches.
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Post by orion320 on Jul 5, 2016 12:48:03 GMT -6
Pre-Practice/Specialties is usually 10-15. I am not sure why we call it Pre-Practice but I think it stems from the fact that the kids are expected to start this work on their own before the coaches officially begin practice.
So nobody is coaching kickers, punters, snappers, returners? Are coaches on the field during "Pre-Practice"?
What are kids who aren't specialists doing?
You are correct, at the very beginning they are working on their own. Once coaches get out there start coaching them up. As I said at times we mix up the schedule and work specifically on Special Teams. Players are are not specialists do the following: Lineman - Stances and Starts RBs and QBs - Mesh WR's - Pass and Catch |
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