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Post by dubber on Jan 23, 2007 21:55:09 GMT -6
I have probably thousands of pieces of paper with football ideas on them. I am a doodler. Crazy formations and ideas. Perfect execution by my "players" everytime.
Any thoughts on the following:
1. Wonder how rocket sweep would look out of and unbalanced I formation?
2. What if I had a 3x3 set where the slot motioned into the backfield to take the shotgun snap?
3. For an end of the game situation, where I have 4th down, 20 seconds, a 2 point lead, and the team just called their last timeout. Can I put a 10 man line on teh field, snap to my fastest player and have him dance around for 20 seconds?
4. Use two quarterbacks in shotgun, standing next to one another?
5. Put my entire line to the left/right of the center, run toss on a quick count (not entirely my idea).
6. Run an unbalanced formation to one side, and have trips to teh other side.
7. Double tight, 4 backs clustered right behind the center's butt.
8. Run a maryland I, with the backs stacked right behind the og
9. Run power pitch out of a 1-TE empty set.
THese are just a few crazy, unorthodox ideas (probablt never see it to the field) What do you think?
What wild things do you guys dream up?
What wild ideas do you guys have
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Post by tog on Jan 23, 2007 23:40:49 GMT -6
stack i behind the guard is something i have never thought of
have seen some y-stack teams in the past
but over the guard?
hmmm
i love thinking outside the box
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Post by dubber on Jan 24, 2007 0:20:39 GMT -6
Here's the diagram
0--0--0--X--0--0--0
----------Q--0
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Short Playlist: Double Iso, Qb sweep, TB counter, Fb trap, Belly (double dive), speed option weak............for starters
Any other ideas out there?
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Post by coach79 on Jan 24, 2007 0:24:57 GMT -6
I used the G stack for my Goal line package. It worked out pretty well for us.
t--g--c--g--t
---Y--q------
---F
---H
I put the QB in under center, "pistol (from Nevada)" and Shotgun.
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Post by coachveer on Jan 24, 2007 6:11:22 GMT -6
I don't know how good rocket can be from an unbalanced I formation. I know it gives odd fronts and all 8 man fronts fits from an unblanced flex with a TE formation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2007 8:27:57 GMT -6
Slow pulling linemen and wanting to run a GG type of scheme and I thought about this one and called it Super GG. From a shotgun set
X T G C G T Y
F H Z
Q
Running the ball with QB, using F and H like the pulling guards, still staying firm up front.
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Post by brophy on Jan 24, 2007 8:35:15 GMT -6
1) soliciting Polynesian cities for student-exchange programs
2) a double wham on a DT that is giving us problems (weak fullback whams from the left, right TE whams from the right)
3) training 11 gorillas how to line up in 40 Cover 3 based on stimulus response.
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Post by tog on Jan 24, 2007 8:38:13 GMT -6
1) soliciting Polynesian cities for student-exchange programs 2) a double wham on a DT that is giving us problems (weak fullback whams from the left, right TE whams from the right) 3) training 11 gorillas how to line up in 40 Cover 3 based on stimulus response. i've actually tried the first two |
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Post by coachcb on Jan 24, 2007 8:51:17 GMT -6
I have come up with some funky unbalanced stuff-
.............Y..G..C..G..T..T........................X
.....................Q....... ....F..F
...........................Rb
Ran the OSV (double option) out of this in the red zone.
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Post by seagull73 on Jan 24, 2007 9:17:11 GMT -6
I ran a funky unbalanced set with all o-linemen to one side of the center and a bunch look w/ a Te to the other side. It confused the hell out of everyone. All we ran was inside zone an 3 step stuff so we didn't have to teach anything new.
I did it in practice with the scout team one day just to mess with my DC. When the 3rd team was picking up 10 yds a play vs our #1's I installed it and it was huge for us. I never ran it 2 time in a row so the guys in the box were busy trying to figure out ore alignment we would run our convential stuff. We made little changes to the formation every week like motion & shifts just to keep people on their toes.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 24, 2007 9:22:21 GMT -6
5. Put my entire line to the left/right of the center, run toss on a quick count (not entirely my idea).
Look up the Polecat Offense I am pretty sure there is a whole off. based on that idea.
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Post by dubber on Jan 24, 2007 14:20:58 GMT -6
I got that from Mike Leonard at Franklin College who got it from Red Faught.
Everyone runs to the line, on 'set', the ball is snapped. RB toss. Great change up. Added a boot off it later on in the season.
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Post by dubber on Jan 24, 2007 14:21:49 GMT -6
5. Put my entire line to the left/right of the center, run toss on a quick count (not entirely my idea). Look up the Polecat Offense I am pretty sure there is a whole off. based on that idea. |
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Post by bigcroz on Jan 24, 2007 14:35:21 GMT -6
coachcb
I run that formation with FB toss sweep, tackle trap to the inside slot, dive, and PA passes, waggle. Worked very well or us last year.
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Post by coachcalande on Jan 24, 2007 15:43:51 GMT -6
I have probably thousands of pieces of paper with football ideas on them. I am a doodler. Crazy formations and ideas. Perfect execution by my "players" everytime. Any thoughts on the following: 1. Wonder how rocket sweep would look out of and unbalanced I formation? 2. What if I had a 3x3 set where the slot motioned into the backfield to take the shotgun snap? 3. For an end of the game situation, where I have 4th down, 20 seconds, a 2 point lead, and the team just called their last timeout. Can I put a 10 man line on teh field, snap to my fastest player and have him dance around for 20 seconds? 4. Use two quarterbacks in shotgun, standing next to one another? 5. Put my entire line to the left/right of the center, run toss on a quick count (not entirely my idea). 6. Run an unbalanced formation to one side, and have trips to teh other side. 7. Double tight, 4 backs clustered right behind the center's butt. 8. Run a maryland I, with the backs stacked right behind the og 9. Run power pitch out of a 1-TE empty set. THese are just a few crazy, unorthodox ideas (probablt never see it to the field) What do you think? What wild things do you guys dream up? What wild ideas do you guys have 6. what if i lined up my whole line with zero splits, foot to foot, had a glorified guard at quarterback, hid my fullback behind him. presented the defense with two flanking wings, completely balanced with 10 run gaps to defense while also scaring him with the threat of four verticals...oh wait, shoot someone beat me to it. |
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Post by phantom on Jan 24, 2007 17:35:07 GMT -6
1) soliciting Polynesian cities for student-exchange programs 2) a double wham on a DT that is giving us problems (weak fullback whams from the left, right TE whams from the right) 3) training 11 gorillas how to line up in 40 Cover 3 based on stimulus response. 7 gorillas. You'll want chimps for the secondary. |
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Post by phantom on Jan 24, 2007 17:47:12 GMT -6
I have probably thousands of pieces of paper with football ideas on them. I am a doodler. Crazy formations and ideas. Perfect execution by my "players" everytime. Any thoughts on the following: 1. Wonder how rocket sweep would look out of and unbalanced I formation? We've seen it. It's tough. 2. What if I had a 3x3 set where the slot motioned into the backfield to take the shotgun snap? You'd have to rep the hell out of to time it out. 3. For an end of the game situation, where I have 4th down, 20 seconds, a 2 point lead, and the team just called their last timeout. Can I put a 10 man line on teh field, snap to my fastest player and have him dance around for 20 seconds? I wouldn't bet on 20 seconds. I also wouldn't want all of them on the line because I'd want backs in position to pick up eny leakage. 4. Use two quarterbacks in shotgun, standing next to one another? You know what, I've thought about it. I coached in an all star game in which we had several talented QBs. One was a huge, physical guy with a big arm and the other was Marcus Vick. I wondered what would happen if we put both of them back there and sometimes motioned Marcus out to receiver and sometimes had Marcus run the ball with Martinez, the other QB, as a lead blocker. 5. Put my entire line to the left/right of the center, run toss on a quick count (not entirely my idea). Takes a LONG time to get to the corner. The breakdown vs. unbalanced doesn't come on the perimeter. 6. Run an unbalanced formation to one side, and have trips to teh other side. Have some real fun. Try a bunch. 7. Double tight, 4 backs clustered right behind the center's butt. 8. Run a maryland I, with the backs stacked right behind the og What's the advantage of being the G instead of the C? 9. Run power pitch out of a 1-TE empty set. THese are just a few crazy, unorthodox ideas (probablt never see it to the field) What do you think? What wild things do you guys dream up? What wild ideas do you guys have 6. |
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Post by jhanawa on Jan 24, 2007 18:17:38 GMT -6
LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I could probably freeze the entire internet if I responded with all of my crazy ideas. Some of the ideas that I consider sound and fit into our scheme involve:
1. Running unbalanced spread formations.
2. Shifting to and from unbalanced spread to cover/uncover potential receivers.
3. "Four corners" delay offense, use your imagination there...lol
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Post by dubber on Jan 24, 2007 19:33:55 GMT -6
1) soliciting Polynesian cities for student-exchange programs 2) a double wham on a DT that is giving us problems (weak fullback whams from the left, right TE whams from the right) 3) training 11 gorillas how to line up in 40 Cover 3 based on stimulus response. 7 gorillas. You'll want chimps for the secondary. We have gotten our kicker from student-exchange the last couple years...... |
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Jan 24, 2007 21:17:25 GMT -6
I coach in the 9-man class here in Minnesota. So.....most formations are unorthodox to begin with. We play with a center, two guards, and two ends (no tackles). Our bread-n-butter formation is this:
E G C G E
S Q F
H
Midline is so lethal to the SE side. Typically, there is just a 3-tech. to this side and the WLB must step out to defend the slot. If he cheats in, we bubble. In fact, we have a check-w-me where the QB calls midline or bubble at the LOS. Nine-man is a wide open game due to some of the crazy formations we see.
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Jan 24, 2007 21:19:11 GMT -6
E_______________G__C__G__E
_________S_________Q_______________F
___________________H
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Post by ronkend on Jan 24, 2007 23:15:01 GMT -6
4. Use two quarterbacks in shotgun, standing next to one another?
I saw a spread team in souther ohio that did this, they ran 2x2 out of the gun and then motioned one of the slot men into the backfield as well, they had all three of them throw/run the ball throughout the course of the game.
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Post by dacoachmo on Jan 24, 2007 23:36:34 GMT -6
I am thinking those spider monkeys would be better DBs and put the chimps at OLB.
I am digging that TRUE EMPTY set.
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Post by spartancoach on Jan 25, 2007 7:44:37 GMT -6
Lined up in some funky formations (everyone but QB on line on one side of center, C and QB in middle of field with everyone else outside the hash, etc.), just to let the kids have a little fun and intending only to ultimately shift back into something standard, but got an unanticipated benefit. Opposing coach blew all three time outs in first series of game to adjust to funky formations, and we never lined up in them again.
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Post by midlinemoney on Jan 25, 2007 10:20:23 GMT -6
what about going under center 1 back and shotgun snapping ball between the qb legs and running different stuff.
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