twich
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Post by twich on Jun 22, 2016 22:08:13 GMT -6
Coaches, I was just messing around with creating a blog and put these thoughts on leadership up as my initial post. What do you think? Curious how many of you practice self reflection, as I discuss as a part of growing leadership skills, through a blog, notebook, diary, etc. coachtwich.com/leadership-as-a-skill/ |
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Post by hunhdisciple on Jun 23, 2016 2:25:21 GMT -6
Just a thought I have occasionally: Are morals part of leadership? I know plenty of guys with a strong moral compass, who are god-awful leaders. But, I don't know many who are morally lacking but are still great leaders.
Are good leaders overwhelming people with high morals? Does that make leadership, at least in part?
I'll take my answer off the air.
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Post by freezeoption on Jun 23, 2016 6:24:59 GMT -6
proactive coach I believe has a good blog on leadership and they sell books
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Post by funkfriss on Jun 23, 2016 12:06:31 GMT -6
Just a thought I have occasionally: Are morals part of leadership? I know plenty of guys with a strong moral compass, who are god-awful leaders. But, I don't know many who are morally lacking but are still great leaders. Are good leaders overwhelming people with high morals? Does that make leadership, at least in part? I'll take my answer off the air. I've pondered this myself and I think it depends on your definition of leadership. Most definitions of leadership involve getting people to do what you want them to do or taking a group to a goal or destination. By definition then guys like Joe Paterno, Bobby Knight, and Art Briles are considered GREAT leaders. I'm not here to judge these guys, I just know many wouldn't want them leading their sons right now. I understand your question, my point is it depends on your definition of leadership. |
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Post by fantom on Jun 24, 2016 10:26:15 GMT -6
Just a thought I have occasionally: Are morals part of leadership? I know plenty of guys with a strong moral compass, who are god-awful leaders. But, I don't know many who are morally lacking but are still great leaders. Are good leaders overwhelming people with high morals? Does that make leadership, at least in part? I'll take my answer off the air. I've pondered this myself and I think it depends on your definition of leadership. Most definitions of leadership involve getting people to do what you want them to do or taking a group to a goal or destination. By definition then guys like Joe Paterno, Bobby Knight, and Art Briles are considered GREAT leaders. I'm not here to judge these guys, I just know many wouldn't want them leading their sons right now. I understand your question, my point is it depends on your definition of leadership. Well, Joe's dead so.... |
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Post by mhs99 on Jun 24, 2016 10:57:52 GMT -6
While I believe leadership can be developed, leadership in a football program is largely dependent upon your best players being leaders. If your best guys and ancillary players are great kids and leaders that is wonderful, but to have a great program, your best players and seniors have to be leaders.
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Post by funkfriss on Jun 24, 2016 12:12:46 GMT -6
While I believe leadership can be developed, leadership in a football program is largely dependent upon your best players being leaders. If your best guys and ancillary players are great kids and leaders that is wonderful, but to have a great program, your best players and seniors have to be leaders. This is what I believe more than anything. You as a coach can not pick the leaders of the team, the kids do that. And I'm not saying they pick who gets to call the coin flip, I'm saying that they naturally will follow and listen to certain kids. It's like the post someone had up here a few weeks ago when his son tried to hold a meeting, called out kids and got laughed at. His son may be the greatest kid in the world and may want to be a leader, but for some reason along the way, the other kids have decided not to respect him and don't want to follow him. Could be they are sh!theads and he tries to hard. Could be he's uppity and a douche about it. Who knows. I just know that you can't force a kid to be a leader and expect the team to follow. Most of the time they follow the best players, which is why it's been said that if your best players are your best workers then you have a chance. |
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Post by freezeoption on Jun 24, 2016 13:22:49 GMT -6
yes, was at a school, this was my first year there, a kid who we thought was a leader one day announced to the team at the beginning of the season that he was quitting, and the kids hugged him, I said feces this will be a hell of a season
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twich
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Post by twich on Jun 26, 2016 7:56:03 GMT -6
While I believe leadership can be developed, leadership in a football program is largely dependent upon your best players being leaders. If your best guys and ancillary players are great kids and leaders that is wonderful, but to have a great program, your best players and seniors have to be leaders. This is what I believe more than anything. You as a coach can not pick the leaders of the team, the kids do that. And I'm not saying they pick who gets to call the coin flip, I'm saying that they naturally will follow and listen to certain kids. It's like the post someone had up here a few weeks ago when his son tried to hold a meeting, called out kids and got laughed at. His son may be the greatest kid in the world and may want to be a leader, but for some reason along the way, the other kids have decided not to respect him and don't want to follow him. Could be they are sh!theads and he tries to hard. Could be he's uppity and a douche about it. Who knows. I just know that you can't force a kid to be a leader and expect the team to follow. Most of the time they follow the best players, which is why it's been said that if your best players are your best workers then you have a chance. Totally agree with the phrase "if your best players are your hardest workers, you have a chance." That's critically important for your best players to model that. I also think that if you preach to your kids that leadership is a skill and is therefore somewhat within their power, you can generate more investment and buy-in throughout your entire roster. |
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Post by blackknight on Jun 26, 2016 10:54:08 GMT -6
Leadership can be taught. If the US military relied on real leaders just showing up year to year we would be doomed.
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Post by sweep26 on Jun 27, 2016 8:36:00 GMT -6
The "Principles of Leadership" certainly can be learned.
However, before you can effectively lead, you have to acquire enough knowledge about what you are leading your group to do in order to earn the respect and trust of the group that you are assigned to lead. As the saying goes..."Knowledge is Power".
The book: "Small Unit Leadership" is a good resource on this topic.
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Post by fantom on Jun 27, 2016 8:57:38 GMT -6
The "Principles of Leadership" certainly can be learned. However, before you can effectively lead, you have to acquire enough knowledge about what you are leading your group to do in order to earn the respect and trust of the group that you are assigned to lead. As the saying goes..."Knowledge is Power". The book: "Small Unit Leadership" is a good resource on this topic. It's a skill like any other but that means that, although anybody can learn it, you need talent to get really good at it. |
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Post by brophy on Jun 27, 2016 10:09:12 GMT -6
 Leadership at its core is service. How you empower others to execute. Good leadership can be quantified as 1) people - surround and develop the right people to do what it is you're after/goal 2) process - a clear system for indoctrinating those people with how to perform at a high level to eliminate uncertainty. 3) accountability - #2 doesn't mean anything if you aren't reinforcing it and auditing #2 against its performance. We can teach kids tenets of mature leadership (what to do, how to do....) but we have to provide them avenues for them to demonstrate/participate in it. Off-season community volunteer work and having them be responsible for underclassmen is where you would do this, because being a leader isn't being a robot, but someone who takes action. GREAT leadership is the ability to stay ahead of the curve, anticipate your people's pain points and build something no one else has. |
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