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Post by wingtol on May 6, 2016 9:45:07 GMT -6
Come on now if you think this guy didn't know what was going on you're kidding yourself.
What about this co-op school they sent kids to for grades? Did they ask him about that at all?
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Post by coachfowler on May 6, 2016 9:53:07 GMT -6
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Post by shocktroop34 on May 6, 2016 12:00:32 GMT -6
coachfowler thanks for the continued updates. Here are my thoughts, and then I'll let it ride: 1) I would have liked to play for a coach like this. It is clearly apparent that he is an advocate for his players. 2) They win. Haters are gonna hate. I get it. 3) There just seems to be too many slippery slopes for there not to be at least one thing that he has done wrong. He is seemingly claiming to be innocent of all these accusations. He seems like a decent guy. It just seems unlikely that everything in the report is wrong. A few years ago, I had two D-1 players, from two different schools, transfer to my program at the end of their JUNIOR year. I was flabbergasted. One player claimed that his position coach had it out for him. He was able to sway his buddy to come. Thus, I had the best players from two different schools on my roster going into their senior year. One actually had his family move him into an apartment. The other lived in our zone, but had applied to be at the school he just left. I was miserable all season. Constant checks on their residence at all hours of the day and night. They were constantly monitored getting on the bus, coming to school, coming home, copies of rent checks, when/where they stayed from night to night. At the end of the day, the investigator (who I personally requested look into their situations-as I didn't want them there if they weren't legit) could not find any conclusive evidence that they shouldn't be at our school. They were great kids. They came because we had a steady string of D-1 commits during this time. They, of course, thought that I could wave my magic wand and make it happen for them. One signed at NC State. The other struggled with grade issues and bounced around to 4-5 different schools. The other schools, who lost their players, were up in arms about it. Those schools were the two biggest in our division and also major rivals. The whole league went crazy over it. I was accused of recruiting though (I barely knew these players names, and only knew their ability from scout tape) but no one believed that. It was just a miserable time. We went 7-3. We lost to the two schools that the transfer kids came from, and missed the playoffs, which I'm sure was "justice served" in everyone's eyes. This was only two players. One season. I can only imagine what life might be like, with multiple transfers, over the course of many years. I had two kids, that I barely knew, and I made sure I knew what they were going through on a regular basis. If this coach didn't know what was going on, he should have.
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Post by the1mitch on May 9, 2016 19:04:41 GMT -6
I have had the pleasure of coaching against these guys before and during the "Butch G era". They have been poaching kids for over a decade. I know personally two of our athletes who were approached, one stayed,one left. The kid who left for Bellevue asked me why we didn't run drills during March and April like Bellevue did! I told him "that's against the rules" his response was to "transfer" but he still slept in our school district every night. His mom was a district employee! Don't shed any tears for this program. They have it coming. If the truth of the money trail got out, you wouldn't believe the amounts.The WIAA investigation just touches the surface. I read all 68 pages and they didn't cover half of the corruption. Kids who used PO boxes for addresses that were in a shopping mall. An apartment complex known as the Bellevue Football dormitory. Coaches steering kids to a strip mall diploma mill so they could stay eligible. on and on and on ad nauseum.
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Post by coachfowler on May 10, 2016 13:55:35 GMT -6
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