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Post by jtimmerman53 on Apr 20, 2016 8:09:02 GMT -6
So today we are giving tests and I'm stuck monitoring the kids for hours at a time so I thought I might as well see how everyone is doing leading up to spring practice.
What does your programs spring practice schedule look like?
What do you think are your biggest strengths/weaknesses going into spring?
What are some major (if any) changes your staff is making with the team or at least trying out this year?
What are a couple of things you would really like to see from certain players/position groups during spring practices?
I just thought I would open up the floor for discussion on this otherwise boring day.
For me, this will be my first year as a full-time varsity coach and I'm very much looking forward to it. I spent the last two years (my first two years) as the 9th grade OL coach and the timing works out this year that a few of the guys I coached my very first year will now be working into the starting lineup so it is awesome to see their growth. As far as our team goes we are going to focus heavy on the fundamentals and work to get really good at what we do.
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 20, 2016 9:07:25 GMT -6
first 3 days are non contact, so we don't even work with the offense - this is the install
Pretty much the rest of time, we treat it like regular practices. The main difference instead of working vs an opponent, we work against a scheme or concept.
So far as what we'd really like to see, we're looking for those cats that expected to fill a role to make a statement
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 20, 2016 10:51:53 GMT -6
Looking to see the surprise kid that comes out of no where , been here 3 years now and somebody no one expects breaks into the starting roll and becomes a player for us. Unfortunately the kid that did it last year tore his acl back in January.
I have a question, everyone always ask about offensive install.
What about defensive install? What do you guys do first ?
I've been on staffs that do just one thing all spring and then try and teach adjustments later, some teach adjustments first and been on a staff where we lined them up in every front we had, coverage, and walked them through every stunt and blitz the first day! And then broke into indo time.
So ....what's everybody do?
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Post by coache67 on Apr 20, 2016 10:56:22 GMT -6
I hope someday we have spring practice in Ohio...
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 20, 2016 11:39:37 GMT -6
Can you not use the athletic period ?
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Post by blb on Apr 20, 2016 11:52:49 GMT -6
Can you not use the athletic period ?
Who has an "athletic period"?
At my last school they had three sections of PE a semester, total.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 20, 2016 11:54:04 GMT -6
Can you not use the athletic period ?
Who has an "athletic period"?
At my last school they had three sections of PE a semester, total.
Oh just about All schools down south, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas etc |
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Post by fantom on Apr 20, 2016 12:08:49 GMT -6
Who has an "athletic period"?
At my last school they had three sections of PE a semester, total.
Oh just about All schools down south, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas etc And pretty much only in those places. If you're outside of those areas thee's a good chance that you've never even heard of an "athletic period" until you read about it n a forum like this. |
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Post by coachbdud on Apr 20, 2016 12:19:52 GMT -6
i am changing things up a bit... last few years i have really tried to master a few things and move real slow
i am going with what i would call an ambitious install schedule
still using my 3 day install plan
but doing more
i felt like last year i worked SO much power and counter that i overworked those and under did some other things so i want to spread my time out more wisely this year
also doing some different personnel groupings and formations than last year
so putting in a little more with each day of the 3 day install
then when days 4-5-6 come... i will add on to what we did 1,2,3
7,8,9 will be some more addition
day 10 i am going to run a TON of team.. just to get stuff and film and see what needs the most time/reps to get better at
picked up an idea from Cal's spring ball and their new OC... his theory is dont try to be perfect in spring ball... that is what summer and fall are for... experiment in spring ball, throw stuff together just to see it and get film of it... some stuff you will scrap, some you will like and then you work to polish it and get better
i need to be much more creative this year and not be so amazing Rb dependent so it is going to be some fun time for me to get our WRs and other RBs involved
get some option and Q runs involved, and then when we are off for all of finals week, i can see watch a ton of film with my staff and we can trim out anything that is wasting our time, and continue to develop wrinkles or plays that we think are worth using
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Post by barlow on Apr 20, 2016 12:24:59 GMT -6
Working as the Interim HC this spring season. We are going to get real intimate with the fundamentals. I hope to maintain my DC position so we will work the read steps/shuffle, to pass drop (cover 3), to run fits, team pursuit,add in cover 1, which involves man breakdown, motion adjustments. Line will work from stance, to start, to hands, to block destruction, etc. Offensively it will not be schematic and will solely focus on the universal fundamentals so the new HC can build on that.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 21, 2016 9:49:19 GMT -6
Oh just about All schools down south, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas etc And pretty much only in those places. If you're outside of those areas thee's a good chance that you've never even heard of an "athletic period" until you read about it n a forum like this. That stinks man. Some schools even have weight lifting classes or "advanced pe" classes for athletes too |
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 21, 2016 9:49:48 GMT -6
Some even double block junior high athletics
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 21, 2016 9:54:25 GMT -6
Working as the Interim HC this spring season. We are going to get real intimate with the fundamentals. I hope to maintain my DC position so we will work the read steps/shuffle, to pass drop (cover 3), to run fits, team pursuit,add in cover 1, which involves man breakdown, motion adjustments. Line will work from stance, to start, to hands, to block destruction, etc. Offensively it will not be schematic and will solely focus on the universal fundamentals so the new HC can build on that. That's a tough situation to be in, not having a header in place and spring ball about to start, we were in a situation like that last year , schools was like " our assistants are good enough to run spring practice without a head coach" but none of us were worthy even a curiosity interview? Weird. Anyway new guy got hired week before spring ball started . We did mainly defense and special teams cause he was moving from across the state and having a baby too. So we hurried and scheduled a team Camp and worked offense those 3 days and filmed it like you said. |
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Apr 21, 2016 9:54:37 GMT -6
Worked out well for us
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Post by barlow on Apr 22, 2016 9:03:52 GMT -6
I feel good about what we can get done, they are all but announcing the guy they want and he ran a spread system last season he coached, we were essentially going to work twins and trip sets so this will complement what he has done perfectly. Defensively we be full blow. I wrote in 40 min of practice to go to 7on7 and Big Man competition. I want to keep it fun and fast paced so kids will have a fun impression to warm up to football as well as improve conditioning. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Apr 22, 2016 9:15:24 GMT -6
How many people condition during spring practice??
We never 'condition' except as punishment/competition outcomes.
We do however, have a Speed/Agility circuit that we run at the beginning, but that is more of a training tool than to get them gassed.
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Post by jtimmerman53 on Apr 22, 2016 9:26:28 GMT -6
We have been doing conditioning through a speed/agility circuit for the past several weeks to get the players in shape for practice. We will focus mostly on install and reps during spring practice and not so much if at all on conditioning.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Apr 22, 2016 10:00:02 GMT -6
Schedule: 15 practices and a game vs a really good local team (no KO/KOR and dead punt and PAT/FG)
Weaknesses: Our QB transferred for his senior year (all district) and our WR/FS (2 time all-state) transferred for his junior year so we're working on replacing our offensive playmakers, basically. Plus we graduated 4 senior starters. Tough on a 28 man roster to lose 6-7 kids in 1 shot.
Young QB stepping up, he was 3rd string QB last year and a WR/LB for us. Athletic kid but needs to up his FB IQ.
Strengths: we're faster and more powerful than ever and have a core of kids that are really dedicated and want to break records here.
Not changing much, going with our basics we just have a more clear identity now.
re pos groups we need this young QB to really step up. Need the OL more accountable. LB's need to make more plays at 0-1 yards vs 3-4. Role players need to be able to start now.
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Post by jtimmerman53 on Apr 22, 2016 10:18:44 GMT -6
Schedule: 15 practices and a game vs a really good local team (no KO/KOR and dead punt and PAT/FG) Weaknesses: Our QB transferred for his senior year (all district) and our WR/FS (2 time all-state) transferred for his junior year so we're working on replacing our offensive playmakers, basically. Plus we graduated 4 senior starters. Tough on a 28 man roster to lose 6-7 kids in 1 shot. Young QB stepping up, he was 3rd string QB last year and a WR/LB for us. Athletic kid but needs to up his FB IQ. Strengths: we're faster and more powerful than ever and have a core of kids that are really dedicated and want to break records here. Not changing much, going with our basics we just have a more clear identity now. re pos groups we need this young QB to really step up. Need the OL more accountable. LB's need to make more plays at 0-1 yards vs 3-4. Role players need to be able to start now. Wow that's a bummer. Was it like those situations where the kids transferred to somewhere like IMG? |
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Post by hsrose on Apr 22, 2016 10:23:46 GMT -6
We can practice all of May, 1.5 hours per day with 4 on Saturday, but no more than 8 hours total per week. We have 8 days scheduled, M-T-W-TH for 2 weeks. Days are defense-offense-defense... No helmets or contact. Figure about 1/3 of players are in spring sports so we won't have them. Focusing on skills development, seeing who might shine over summer and fall. Start working on the passing game, possible we might have a soph QB as a starter this fall, but he's currently starting shortstop and pitcher for the varsity baseball team. Once we get done with the workouts the first 2 weeks of May the local fair comes up the 3rd weekend, the kids get 2 days off from school for that so we have found that we need to be way the heck out of the way by the time the fair gets here. And the week after is shot because the kids are delivering animals and clearing up business from the fair.
Biggest issue I've had with spring workouts is getting too excited about having practices and expecting too much from the players and coaches. So we are really trying to keep expectations low/reasonable and work on the core skills and foundation of what we will be really working on this summer.
For instance since the OL won't really be a factor in doing team time or passing, they will pretty much get the full time to work on skills and assignments. They can't hit anyone and running on air always looks really good, I mean I think our team could kick your teams a$$ if we played you on air. So they will be with the OL coach for pretty much 3 full days with only some team time on air on the 4th/last day.
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Post by IronmanFootball on Apr 22, 2016 10:24:49 GMT -6
Schedule: 15 practices and a game vs a really good local team (no KO/KOR and dead punt and PAT/FG) Weaknesses: Our QB transferred for his senior year (all district) and our WR/FS (2 time all-state) transferred for his junior year so we're working on replacing our offensive playmakers, basically. Plus we graduated 4 senior starters. Tough on a 28 man roster to lose 6-7 kids in 1 shot. Young QB stepping up, he was 3rd string QB last year and a WR/LB for us. Athletic kid but needs to up his FB IQ. Strengths: we're faster and more powerful than ever and have a core of kids that are really dedicated and want to break records here. Not changing much, going with our basics we just have a more clear identity now. re pos groups we need this young QB to really step up. Need the OL more accountable. LB's need to make more plays at 0-1 yards vs 3-4. Role players need to be able to start now. Wow that's a bummer. Was it like those situations where the kids transferred to somewhere like IMG? They aren't quite that good, WR/FS was all-state at our level, 2A, small schools- he's about 5'8 130 runs a 4.7. He's a stud for us though and has started all 3 ways since 8th grade. QB was all district, we're a 4 team district and all region 1A-4A which was 8 or so teams. They're both D3 caliber kids, nice kids, good grades... wacky parents. |
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Post by jcamerot on Apr 22, 2016 10:51:05 GMT -6
I hope to someday have spring practice.............
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Post by rosey65 on Apr 22, 2016 11:15:35 GMT -6
We've spent the last 12 weeks down here in FL lifting, running, 7-on-7-ing, and installing as much of as scheme as possible. May 2nd we strap on helmets for 4 days, then go full-bore til we play our spring game on the 27th.
With most of the coaching points and assignments already in place for the offense, we will spend this next month working contact in play-specific drills: double teams, belly blocking, reaching, trapping, pass pro, etc.
For our 6 weeks in summer, we do more install and teaching, similar to what we did all spring, before ramping up the contact again in the fall.
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Post by gibbs72 on Apr 23, 2016 17:09:15 GMT -6
So today we are giving tests and I'm stuck monitoring the kids for hours at a time so I thought I might as well see how everyone is doing leading up to spring practice. What does your programs spring practice schedule look like? What do you think are your biggest strengths/weaknesses going into spring? What are some major (if any) changes your staff is making with the team or at least trying out this year? What are a couple of things you would really like to see from certain players/position groups during spring practices? I just thought I would open up the floor for discussion on this otherwise boring day. For me, this will be my first year as a full-time varsity coach and I'm very much looking forward to it. I spent the last two years (my first two years) as the 9th grade OL coach and the timing works out this year that a few of the guys I coached my very first year will now be working into the starting lineup so it is awesome to see their growth. As far as our team goes we are going to focus heavy on the fundamentals and work to get really good at what we do. Install new things (to see if the new things are too "time expensive" for the season)/ review our base schemes/ fundamentals!! |
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Post by newhope on Apr 27, 2016 12:39:30 GMT -6
We get 10 days, no contact. Helmets and shoulder pads only.
We are young and we were very bad last year. We will use those 10 days to work on fundamentals, figure out who has matured and is ready to play for us, and getting some of the basics of our offense and defense installed.
We are anticipating good numbers and that we've weeded the problem children so that those numbers will show up each day.
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