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Post by nltdiego on Mar 2, 2016 0:59:44 GMT -6
How do you convince a concerned mom that her son can play and probably start varsity as a sophomore???
What's your selling point???
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Post by coachklee on Mar 2, 2016 4:12:38 GMT -6
How do you convince a concerned mom that her son can play and probably start varsity as a sophomore??? What's your selling point??? What are mom's concerns? How big or strong is he? How big or strong are his teammates & more importantly his potential opponents? What position does he play? What size of school? |
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Post by nltdiego on Mar 2, 2016 7:42:00 GMT -6
He is not a JV player-size, strength, not very talented senior class.
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Post by barlow on Mar 2, 2016 9:13:24 GMT -6
Just have her watch your practices, if the kid can hang with your guys, or is better than most varsity guys it is easier to visually sell the idea than think of reasons it's ok. Plus the further away from the ball at the snap it's easier to sell (DB's) even if it's to get his feet wet if he is capable.
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Post by tothehouse on Mar 2, 2016 9:26:32 GMT -6
Have him work with the varsity during the summer. Compare strength and speed numbers with the rest of the varsity. Have kid practice with varsity in fall. If it's a fit...keep him there. If he isn't keeping up...move him down.
In the end...kid will probably show that he's a "dude" and will stay.
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Post by wheels1284 on Mar 2, 2016 12:18:41 GMT -6
I always find it funny how different things are depending on where you coach (area and size of school). Where I am, all of our parents think their son should start as a freshman and if they don't, the coach is an idiot.
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Post by rosey65 on Mar 3, 2016 8:54:00 GMT -6
He's big enough to physically play, and/or smart and mature enough to not get much PT and learn the system. Otherwise, mom has can veto the idea. It's her son.
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Post by wolverine55 on Mar 3, 2016 9:00:28 GMT -6
I always find it funny how different things are depending on where you coach (area and size of school). Where I am, all of our parents think their son should start as a freshman and if they don't, the coach is an idiot. I was thinking the same thing, but at least at our school, they demonstrate "patience" by waiting until sophomore year before ranting about playing time... |
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Post by jared10227 on Mar 3, 2016 19:58:52 GMT -6
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Post by coachklee on Mar 4, 2016 3:04:22 GMT -6
Just have her watch your practices, if the kid can hang with your guys, or is better than most varsity guys it is easier to visually sell the idea than think of reasons it's ok. Plus the further away from the ball at the snap it's easier to sell (DB's) even if it's to get his feet wet if he is capable. I've found it the other way. If a guy is big enough to be an OL or DL, it's pretty easy & typically safer as their collisions are slightly slower & especially on the offensive side, not everyone is trying to hit them every snap. Being a young QB or RB on an average to below average team can flat out suck as you'll take a beating. Remember watching my best friend whom I was up on varsity with as sophomores on a 1-8 team. After a game my dad commented how he didn't really worry about me getting hurt anymore & that he was glad I wasn't a QB like Ryan! DB might be a bit different as you can avoid most contact until your taking on a lead block of a FB or pulling Guard or trying to tackle a TE that outweighs you by 40-50+ pounds! I saw the same thing happen to the kid that was playing QB during the same season. In the end it paid off as juniors we were part of a 7-4 playoff team that picked up our school's 1st playoff victory & had another solid season as seniors going 7-3, but my buddy took some big hits while gaining varsity experience! |
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Post by 19delta on Mar 4, 2016 3:40:45 GMT -6
If he is a credible varsity player, it should be evident to everyone. On the other hand, if you are just playing him on varsity because you don't have enough juniors and seniors, I think that Mom has legitimate concerns. How does the kid measure up to the juniors and seniors in the weight room? You said the senior class was not very talented. If that is the case, I would expect that this kid is significantly better in the weight room than your juniors and seniors for him to be a varsity starter.
Regarding "selling points"...what are yours? Why do you think that a sophomore should start over juniors and seniors? What observations have you made and what measureables do you have that show this kid is a legitimate varsity player? That's where I would start...be able to specifically put into words why you would like to see this kid on the varsity team this fall.
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Post by barlow on Mar 4, 2016 9:08:59 GMT -6
Just have her watch your practices, if the kid can hang with your guys, or is better than most varsity guys it is easier to visually sell the idea than think of reasons it's ok. Plus the further away from the ball at the snap it's easier to sell (DB's) even if it's to get his feet wet if he is capable. I've found it the other way. If a guy is big enough to be an OL or DL, it's pretty easy & typically safer as their collisions are slightly slower & especially on the offensive side, not everyone is trying to hit them every snap. Being a young QB or RB on an average to below average team can flat out suck as you'll take a beating. Remember watching my best friend whom I was up on varsity with as sophomores on a 1-8 team. After a game my dad commented how he didn't really worry about me getting hurt anymore & that he was glad I wasn't a QB like Ryan! DB might be a bit different as you can avoid most contact until your taking on a lead block of a FB or pulling Guard or trying to tackle a TE that outweighs you by 40-50+ pounds! I saw the same thing happen to the kid that was playing QB during the same season. In the end it paid off as juniors we were part of a 7-4 playoff team that picked up our school's 1st playoff victory & had another solid season as seniors going 7-3, but my buddy took some big hits while gaining varsity experience!
I feel you on that coach, not a perfect model. Just as a coach when I'm emptying the bench on a big winner, it's been much easier hiding the kid that isn't physically impressive in the secondary versus being at LB, DL, OL, RB/QB. I feel like all of those you almost certainly will get contacted most plays, corner you can get run off by the receiver more often. Not a perfect thing though cause the play eventually goes to their side, but I've seen that kid step up and make the 1 tackle and my sideline go crazy. He couldn't repeat that though, but the offense usually leaves em alone after that.
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Post by coachklee on Mar 4, 2016 9:12:52 GMT -6
I've found it the other way. If a guy is big enough to be an OL or DL, it's pretty easy & typically safer as their collisions are slightly slower & especially on the offensive side, not everyone is trying to hit them every snap. Being a young QB or RB on an average to below average team can flat out suck as you'll take a beating. Remember watching my best friend whom I was up on varsity with as sophomores on a 1-8 team. After a game my dad commented how he didn't really worry about me getting hurt anymore & that he was glad I wasn't a QB like Ryan! DB might be a bit different as you can avoid most contact until your taking on a lead block of a FB or pulling Guard or trying to tackle a TE that outweighs you by 40-50+ pounds! I saw the same thing happen to the kid that was playing QB during the same season. In the end it paid off as juniors we were part of a 7-4 playoff team that picked up our school's 1st playoff victory & had another solid season as seniors going 7-3, but my buddy took some big hits while gaining varsity experience!
I feel you on that coach, not a perfect model. Just as a coach when I'm emptying the bench on a big winner, it's been much easier hiding the kid that isn't physically impressive in the secondary versus being at LB, DL, OL, RB/QB. I feel like all of those you almost certainly will get contacted most plays, corner you can get run off by the receiver more often. Not a perfect thing though cause the play eventually goes to their side, but I've seen that kid step up and make the 1 tackle and my sideline go crazy. He couldn't repeat that though, but the offense usually leaves em alone after that.
Fair enough. You are completely correct that typically that kid at DB being inferior doesn't result in other teammates being put at risk whereas OL especially would put teammates behind them at risk. |
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Post by barlow on Mar 4, 2016 11:21:39 GMT -6
I was the young slot/rb on a jet sweep with a backup line. I got the ball and the playside DE was standing there untouched. I got by him, horse collared and got a high ankle sprain as a result. So personal opinion I don't wanna depend on a bozo blocking for me if he doesn't know what he's doing haha.
To the post, we had to field young guys because of numbers this last year. IT DID NOT HELP, one freshman is a D1 type kid and was 2nd Team All-Southern. If the kid is legit like that then cool, if not don't force it cause the juice is not worth the squeeze. Just have a really good JV instead.
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