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Post by coach2013 on Feb 25, 2016 8:34:45 GMT -6
.....So many assistant coach applicants approach an assistant coaching opportunity as if they are going to fix and save a program.
Personally I prefer to hire people who understand, "whatever is good for the program is good for the individual."
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Post by bird0660 on Feb 25, 2016 8:41:41 GMT -6
Chris Ash since taking over the program has talked to NJ coaches alot about alignment. He uses it to refer to his staff, administrative personnel, AD, Univ President, etc. I've been thinking a lot though that its huge for a high school program as well. HS kids are impressionable, and it only takes one coach that is going against what the mission is to throw the whole thing out of whack.
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Post by coachwilliams2 on Feb 25, 2016 8:43:26 GMT -6
Take this with a grain of salt. Never been an HC. Been an OC, STC, Position coach and done every odd and end job that I could get my hands on.
Good assistants must:
1. Realize its not about YOU. Its about the Program.
2. You are never too good to get dirty. Meaning anything that needs done, helps the program. DO IT.
3. Be present
4. Develop relationships with the kids. Get them to buy in to the PROGRAM...not to YOU and YOUR ideas.
5. Never, under any circumstances, say or do anything that would give ANYONE outside the office the idea that you have a different view point than the HC. Ever.
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 25, 2016 8:45:26 GMT -6
If I'm ever talking to a HC about a job--I've only had one "formal" interview for an assistant job--I basically talk about my experience, what my roles and responsibilities were with the programs, and basically say that if you find this experience valuable and useful, I'm willing to do whatever you want. Let's face it: if I was a "savior" I probably wouldn't be needing to apply and interview for assistant jobs!
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Post by brophy on Feb 25, 2016 9:07:17 GMT -6
.....So many assistant coach applicants approach an assistant coaching opportunity as if they are going to fix and save a program.
what's wrong with that? An assistant can't be a vital piece to turning a program around? An assistant coach has to be more than just "1 labor unit" Do you mean to say that many assistants expect to work independently of the rest of the staff and bitch about what scheme you're not running? |
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Post by 60zgo on Feb 25, 2016 9:43:14 GMT -6
.....So many assistant coach applicants approach an assistant coaching opportunity as if they are going to fix and save a program.
Personally I prefer to hire people who understand, "whatever is good for the program is good for the individual."
This is what I have found in the last few years. 1. People are leaving the profession in huge numbers. The "old guys" are retiring or leaving for other work. 2. I have interviewed a large number of young coaches(22-25) who expect to be in some sort of coordinator or play calling role. 3. I have interviewed a large number of mid career guys (30's) who are just looking for a place to hang out and collect an extra stipend. |
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Post by coachnewman on Feb 25, 2016 9:51:15 GMT -6
a HFC is only as good as his help/assistants. I want guys that want to help the program within the guidelines of the program outline of HFC. This energy is needed but needs to be guided in the correct direction.
Love those 5 coachwillaims2
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Post by funkfriss on Feb 25, 2016 9:52:28 GMT -6
Take this with a grain of salt. Never been an HC. Been an OC, STC, Position coach and done every odd and end job that I could get my hands on. Good assistants must: 1. Realize its not about YOU. Its about the Program. 2. You are never too good to get dirty. Meaning anything that needs done, helps the program. DO IT. 3. Be present 4. Develop relationships with the kids. Get them to buy in to the PROGRAM...not to YOU and YOUR ideas. 5. Never, under any circumstances, say or do anything that would give ANYONE outside the office the idea that you have a different view point than the HC. Ever. Let's touch on this one for a second. I understand what you are saying and I think overall loyalty to your HC is very important, but do you fall on the sword at the risk of losing personal credibility? I'm not talking about debatable stuff like play calling or LB's cross keying vs. reading guards, but more like the HC telling players to use a certain technique that is just flat our terrible? Do you blindly follow and go with it while your players and possibly parents think you're a moron too? Obviously you would talk to your HC and try to convince him he is wrong, but if he's a stubborn SOB about it what do you do? I'm sure some of you might say quit or go somewhere else, but that's A LOT easier said than done. |
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Post by funkfriss on Feb 25, 2016 9:54:40 GMT -6
.....So many assistant coach applicants approach an assistant coaching opportunity as if they are going to fix and save a program.
Personally I prefer to hire people who understand, "whatever is good for the program is good for the individual."
This is what I have found in the last few years. 1. People are leaving the profession in huge numbers. The "old guys" are retiring or leaving for other work. 2. I have interviewed a large number of young coaches(22-25) who expect to be in some sort of coordinator or play calling role. 3. I have interviewed a large number of mid career guys (30's) who are just looking for a place to hang out and collect an extra stipend. What are these "large number" of applicants you speak of and where can I find them? |
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Post by coachwilliams2 on Feb 25, 2016 9:58:55 GMT -6
Take this with a grain of salt. Never been an HC. Been an OC, STC, Position coach and done every odd and end job that I could get my hands on. Good assistants must: 1. Realize its not about YOU. Its about the Program. 2. You are never too good to get dirty. Meaning anything that needs done, helps the program. DO IT. 3. Be present 4. Develop relationships with the kids. Get them to buy in to the PROGRAM...not to YOU and YOUR ideas. 5. Never, under any circumstances, say or do anything that would give ANYONE outside the office the idea that you have a different view point than the HC. Ever. Let's touch on this one for a second. I understand what you are saying and I think overall loyalty to your HC is very important, but do you fall on the sword at the risk of losing personal credibility? I'm not talking about debatable stuff like play calling or LB's cross keying vs. reading guards, but more like the HC telling players to use a certain technique that is just flat our terrible? Do you blindly follow and go with it while your players and possibly parents think you're a moron too? Obviously you would talk to your HC and try to convince him he is wrong, but if he's a stubborn SOB about it what do you do? I'm sure some of you might say quit or go somewhere else, but that's A LOT easier said than done. You have choices to make. I would rather a parent think I am a moron than the coaches on my staff put my name out there as disloyal. 1. Try to talk to him about it and show him why your way is better (in the office) 2. If he is a stubborn SOB...YOU COACH WHAT HE WANTS COACHED. If he gets fired for coaching bad technique and losing...then that's on HIM. If you can't do that, don't coach for the man. I know you say leaving is easier said than done...so if you aren't going to leave, you coach it his way. There should be no question about that. |
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Post by newt21 on Feb 25, 2016 9:59:39 GMT -6
If you have a PE job for me and possibly an athletic training job for my wife, tell me where to sign up guys!
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Post by bigdog2003 on Feb 25, 2016 10:08:25 GMT -6
I have been in situations before where a HC or AD wanted to offer me a position, but didn't have a teaching spot open. I would be willing to coach anything and do anything that needed to be done if these schools could find a teaching spot for me.
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Post by 60zgo on Feb 25, 2016 10:26:19 GMT -6
If you have a PE job for me and possibly an athletic training job for my wife, tell me where to sign up guys! This has become the issue with finding high quality guys. When I first started you could basically hire a guy and just fit him in somewhere. But with certifications and high stakes testing you may not have much room to work with. My second year as a HC the only certifications I could hire into were ART, and Junior English. Not a very big applicant pool. |
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Post by morgs23 on Feb 25, 2016 11:22:39 GMT -6
Finding loyal guys that's what it comes down to. Guys that stand behind what you believe in. What do you do when you don't have those guys and they won't let you get rid of them?
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