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Post by jg78 on Feb 21, 2016 8:43:11 GMT -6
Those of you who have been a HC in situations where you came in new vs. moving up from being assistant, what do you consider some of the pros and cons of both situations, especially if you did things a lot different from your predecessor?
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Post by chi5hi on Feb 21, 2016 10:02:37 GMT -6
The pro is that the administration hired you for a reason. They wanted change. the con is that the assistants will need time to learn the new system. Give them that time. A coaching staff is also a team.
From there, don't sweat the "small stuff". Handle things as they come. The second year is easier than the first, and by the third season it all comes together. By then you have replaced the assistants who don't fit in and have retained the ones who do.
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Post by gibbs72 on Feb 21, 2016 10:11:57 GMT -6
I'm in this situation now: trying to decide if I want to take over a program that has athletes, good facilities, but cannot keep athletes out and build a winning program. I like the line "administration hired you for a reason". And, I like the idea of plan on year 3 being the one where everything gels.
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Post by funkfriss on Feb 22, 2016 9:49:16 GMT -6
Those of you who have been a HC in situations where you came in new vs. moving up from being assistant, what do you consider some of the pros and cons of both situations, especially if you did things a lot different from your predecessor? If you're taking over a struggling program where the coach was run out or resigned (varying levels of struggle...all relative) you're better off coming in new as you won't be attached to the former regime. While many will say it doesn't matter what people say or think about you I think your players will hear a lot of it and it will affect their beliefs and output. If you're taking over for a well liked coach who has had success I think it helps to be an inside hire, or former player/assistant in the program. People are comfortable with you, and the players are comfortable with what schemes are already in place. You're more likely to get the benefit of the doubt being a "Coach Wonderful" disciple. I've seen good coaches get run out of "Perfecttown" because they weren't from there and tried doing something different from what the community was used to. Obviously this is a blanket statement. There are cases of the opposites working out too.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Feb 22, 2016 11:10:46 GMT -6
The pro is that the administration hired you for a reason. They wanted change. the con is that the assistants will need time to learn the new system. Give them that time. A coaching staff is also a team. From there, don't sweat the "small stuff". Handle things as they come. The second year is easier than the first, and by the third season it all comes together. By then you have replaced the assistants who don't fit in and have retained the ones who do. If the school lets you replace them Ally of places are you got what you got and it's an uphill battle no matter what.
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Post by John Knight on Feb 22, 2016 11:44:05 GMT -6
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 22, 2016 12:02:29 GMT -6
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Post by fcboiler87 on Feb 22, 2016 12:19:54 GMT -6
I will echo what funkfriss said in that if you are going to take over a struggling program, it's best to be from the outside. That way you are not attached to the whys of the struggle. If you are taking over a good program, it's best case to do so from the inside as an assistant and work to keep things going while adding your own spin on it. I took over at a place that was pretty successful and I was coming from the outside. We have been about where they were before I got here but talk about pulling teeth and attempting to get buy in. I had none from the first senior class and it's not much better from the next one. I realize that you are going to deal with that more than likely when you come from the outside no matter what. With expectations, people around you chatter, be it justified or not and the kids pick up on this stuff - he's not from here, he doesn't do it OUR way, etc. There are days I think it's getting better and days where it doesn't seem like it. But when expectations are high and you fail to meet it, you could be without a job. I'll get back to you on that one
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