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Post by jg78 on Jan 25, 2016 13:48:26 GMT -6
Assuming you have complete control over your non-region schedule, what would be your ideal approach to scheduling? Would you prefer to play a few heavyweights thinking the competition will make you better? Do you prefer a lighter schedule so that you can look ahead, probably keep players healthier, and build toward playing particular opponents down the line?
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Post by jml on Jan 25, 2016 15:06:36 GMT -6
I think it depends on your team and your regional schedule. If you are the best team in your region, then schedule up with one game you should loose and the rest 50/50 games. If you are the worst team in your region go looking for the easiest games that you can find. If you are in the middle of the pack I'd try to find an easy game, a 50/50 game and a slight schedule up game which would be like a 60/40 in favor of the other team.
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Post by leighty on Jan 25, 2016 15:09:02 GMT -6
If you know there's a potential for a road trip in the playoffs, I might try to schedule a game that would require roughly the same itinerary.
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Post by fantom on Jan 25, 2016 16:19:05 GMT -6
I have nothing to say about the schedule. We just pay whoever's there when we get off the bus.
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Post by spreadpowero on Jan 25, 2016 16:30:25 GMT -6
We fill up our non-district schedule with local rivals that are not in our district. If they will not play us, then we schedule teams from a nearby district. We schedule teams that we have not seen recently. We scrimmage one of the top teams in their classification and a school in a larger classification to help prepare us for the regular season.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Jan 25, 2016 16:31:27 GMT -6
It all depends on who you are.
If you're not very good, don't really have a lot of post season hopes, or if you're just not expecting much out of your team, then schedule easy. No distance is too far to travel for a win. No team is too much of a cupcake for you to play.
But, if you're expecting deep post season runs, if you are someone who figures to be in the mix for a championship, then by all means challenge yourself.
Although, I think if you schedule with the post season in mind, you need to make sure that the good team will actually make you better for those other teams. We scrimmaged a team this year because they were a good challenge. However, they spread it out and chucked it 40 times. It didn't really help us going forward, though. The only possible team we would have played would have been in the semi finals, if they pulled off two upsets.
Scheduling tough won't make you bigger or faster, it's just a question of if you think it makes you better. I, personally, don't think it matters much.
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Post by jg78 on Jan 25, 2016 18:21:05 GMT -6
I think this is important, especially for those of us who coach defense.
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Post by coachwilliams2 on Jan 25, 2016 19:15:55 GMT -6
Schedule as easy as you can and not get laughed at. Unless you are a state power, or have a group that needs to be humbled.
In 5 years no one cares who you play...just the W/L. That's what gets you fired today right?
I would rather win, Keep guys fresh and rested and have confidence going in to league play.
Just me. If my job is kept or lost by winning, and I have a say so in it, why not schedule some job security.
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Post by jg78 on Jan 25, 2016 19:21:50 GMT -6
Schedule as easy as you can and not get laughed at. Unless you are a state power, or have a group that needs to be humbled. In 5 years no one cares who you play...just the W/L. That's what gets you fired today right? I would rather win, Keep guys fresh and rested and have confidence going in to league play. Just me. If my job is kept or lost by winning, and I have a say so in it, why not schedule some job security. Hard to argue with this. |
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Post by coachtua on Jan 25, 2016 23:21:18 GMT -6
This past season we had to change the culture of the program. We scheduled up a division for our non-league games. All the boys saw was were playing and beating teams in the division above us. They didnt know that these teams were cupcakes. Confidence was built early in the season and we made a run at the league title.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Jan 26, 2016 8:25:05 GMT -6
This past season we had to change the culture of the program. We scheduled up a division for our non-league games. All the boys saw was were playing and beating teams in the division above us. They didnt know that these teams were cupcakes. Confidence was built early in the season and we made a run at the league title. Your kids are the opposite of ours. We had to play a school almost twice our size 2 years ago, because we got screwed out of our 10th game. They were awful. Hadn't beaten a good school in years. Dressed, maybe, 30 kids. But, all our kids knew was that they had a turf field and were in the largest division in the state. We almost pooped our pants on the ride there. We throw away the game with stupid penalties and mental errors, and then celebrate a 5 point loss like we were a youth league team staying competitive with an NFL team. I think the easiest way to change culture is to beat teams. If it's possible to play teams that used to beat you, but have fallen off and you don't play them anymore, those are the perfect chance to get big gain . |
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Post by John Knight on Jan 26, 2016 9:35:31 GMT -6
In Ohio the playoffs are based on Harbin System. You must win to get points. Bigger the school the more points for beating them, if it is a small school with lots of wins, more points. It can be really tricky and sometimes it is better to not make the playoffs as play the #1 seed and get waxed. If you are going to be any good, schedule up if not take the easy wins or play a close rival to pad the coffers.
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Post by fantom on Jan 26, 2016 9:41:06 GMT -6
I have nothing to say about the schedule. We just play whoever's there when we get off the bus. |
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Post by 60zgo on Jan 26, 2016 9:55:43 GMT -6
Schedule as easy as you can and not get laughed at. Unless you are a state power, or have a group that needs to be humbled. In 5 years no one cares who you play...just the W/L. That's what gets you fired today right? I would rather win, Keep guys fresh and rested and have confidence going in to league play. Just me. If my job is kept or lost by winning, and I have a say so in it, why not schedule some job security. This. |
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Post by mholst40 on Jan 26, 2016 15:36:51 GMT -6
I think it really depends where your program is at.
If you haven't won lately, if your numbers are low, you need to start winning NOW. That means scheduling lightly.
Once you've built numbers and established your program you can slowly start upping your schedule.
It also depends on the league you play in and what the regulations are for making the playoffs every year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 17:44:42 GMT -6
It depends on where you're at as a program.
If you're rebuilding, you need to schedule as many wins as possible, preferably early in the season and for the finale to get momentum to start the season and momentum going into the offseason.
If you're a solid, middle of the pack team... I still would prefer a soft schedule. 7-3 just looks better than 5-5, even if the 5-5 team was actually better and played a brutal schedule instead of the team who went 7-3 against cupcakes.
If you're competing for state and will breeze trough your league schedule, schedule whoever you want. Better/bigger teams will test you will be good.
In any event, don't drop a traditional rival to soften the schedule. Long-term, it's games like that that keep your program relevant to the community and student body.
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Post by Party@QB on Jan 26, 2016 18:57:28 GMT -6
I have nothing to say about the schedule. We just play whoever's there when we get off the bus. I go with this. Another coach on staff says schedule 1 sure win, 1 team better than you and 2 teams equal. |
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Post by chi5hi on Jan 27, 2016 11:26:52 GMT -6
If you WANT to run with the Pack...you shouldn't play with the pups.
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Post by jg78 on Feb 25, 2016 19:26:33 GMT -6
Personally, I'm all about region games and being able to zero in on the must win games. I can go for one tough out of region game - particularly if it's a long time rival - but that's it. I want to keep the team healthy and be able to build toward a particular opponents scheme. Unless I have a loaded team that's going to knock down my region opponents like a bunch of bowling pins, I have no interest in a gauntlet schedule.
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Post by jens519 on Feb 26, 2016 10:49:06 GMT -6
My state's athletic organization handles all football schedules. They try to balance out everyone's schedule to give them tough games and easy games. So if you are a struggling team you will have to play one of the state's best team every year either in region/district play or not. This leads to lop sided games and situations where teams with same enrollment numbers have one team with 100+ kids on the sideline and another team with 30 kids; with a final score of 65-0. Those games are rough to coach in.
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Post by joker31 on Feb 26, 2016 11:52:24 GMT -6
A, B, C type scheduling for us in our non-conference/league.
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