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Post by groundchuck on Jul 16, 2006 19:31:05 GMT -6
Why does it seem there are different philosophies on ball faking? Some coaches really emphasize it and you can see it on video. Great fundamental faking, players carrying out fakes, and even getting tackled.
Then there are other coaches, particularly with play action passing, who just have the QB flash fake to the RB.
Are there any advantages to this quick fake as opposed to really riding the fake to the "extreme"?
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coachf
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Post by coachf on Jul 16, 2006 19:46:17 GMT -6
I emphasize hiding the ball from the backside DE. I don't want him seeing the ball and adjusting to the playaction. So we carry a pretty hard fake. But, I think the quick fake's advantage is ball security. We have to drill more often on our fakes because of the occasional bumping into the back. A quick fake also gets you on your boot or set-up quicker.
I also don't like the flash fake because it is to easy to pick up on film.
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Post by groundchuck on Jul 16, 2006 20:57:43 GMT -6
I also don't like the flash fake because it is to easy to pick up on film. But is the flash fake easy for a LB or DB to pick up during a game? |
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Post by Coach Huey on Jul 16, 2006 21:05:07 GMT -6
type of fake really depends on who you are trying to fake or hold ...
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Post by bulldogoption on Jul 16, 2006 21:08:32 GMT -6
A play action pass is usually a quicker hitting play right??? So I think that a flash fake, enough to freeze the defenders, not necessarily get them to sell out completely can be enough. Also it allows your quarterback to get rid of the ball faster. I was watching a Nebraska video on option QB and they just flash fake on all play action passes.
On other running plays, fakes become more involved/important to really sell the fake and pull defenders out.
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Post by coachf on Jul 16, 2006 22:38:12 GMT -6
I also don't like the flash fake because it is to easy to pick up on film. But is the flash fake easy for a LB or DB to pick up during a game? I doubt it. But, I am more concerned about the DE, mostly because we run a lot of naked boots. If you are faking dive/or something similar and setting up in the pocket as long as a QB turns his head it is probably a good enough fake. BTW, that is the first time I have ever got the quotes to work. It is very simple, I'm just pretty dumb. |
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Post by shakdaddy3 on Jul 16, 2006 22:47:59 GMT -6
I think harder fakes are used to get the safeties to come down out of protection for easier big, deeper plays.
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Post by coachf on Jul 16, 2006 23:08:57 GMT -6
good point, shakdaddy. We have a team in our conference who runs a crossbuck play fake where the QB stands with his back turned for what seems forever, (sort of like Chad Pennington on some of his fakes). Our LBers and S's bite on it every time. Tough play to stop (mostly because they ate us alive running Crossbuck.
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 17, 2006 13:45:01 GMT -6
Coachf made another good point - the better your base play is the easier it is to fake. If your Fly Sweep is really picking up the yards, then our fake sweep to dive, boot, or play action is much more effective. By the way, we hard fake on our playside dive and flash fake on a backside.
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