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Post by coachtua on Jan 12, 2016 2:52:50 GMT -6
A few years ago I had the privilege of attending the wedding of a high school teammate of mine. When my wife and I and another teammate of mine and his girlfriend arrived at the venue site we just happened to park next our HS OLine Coach. We greeted him and his wife, "Hello Coach and Mrs. Smith." They returned the greeting and his wife turned and asked him why we still refer to him as "Coach?"
For me it was two-fold. Habit and respect.
Habit.
I returned to coach at my alma mater and our HC has a policy that coaching is a profession and we needed to use our title of Coach around the boys to be professional. So when you spend 4 years in HS calling someone Coach. Then you work with them for x amount of years calling them Coach, it becomes automatic.
Respect.
They were my HS Coaches. They were a huge influence in my life during formidable years. And I appreciate the many lessons that were taught to me.
My question is what would be your response to your significant other when they ask the question "Why do they still call you Coach?"
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Post by mrjvi on Jan 12, 2016 7:03:01 GMT -6
It sounds arrogant but my wife would never ask that. She was integral in my career and already knows.
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Post by coachphillip on Jan 12, 2016 8:33:14 GMT -6
It's the same reason why you don't call your childhood friend's parents by their first name. You just don't lol.
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Post by morris on Jan 12, 2016 9:05:20 GMT -6
It's a sign of respect. One of those strange proud moments for me was when my former HS HC came to the funeral home after my dad passed. He addressed me as Coach. "It's coach now, right ".
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jan 12, 2016 9:19:31 GMT -6
Had a wierd conversation with my wife a few months back she happens to be a psychologist. She pointed out I call some members of the staff by there 1st or last name and others I refer to them as coach.Conversation came up becuase it was the 1st time she heard me refer to a person as coach so and so instead of just his last name and she wanted to know why.
So to me it's just a respect my former hs coach is the AD and a few of my former hs staff are still at the school or I see them around town and I still call them coach.
I don't think my wife would say much outside of wondering why that kid thinks I'm a {censored}.
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Post by funkfriss on Jan 12, 2016 10:06:34 GMT -6
On the flip side, I have had a few players who as soon as they graduate can't wait to call me by my first name. I don't make a big deal about it, but you can probably predict the character of those guys compared to the former players who still call me Coach.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jan 12, 2016 10:16:45 GMT -6
This is a really interesting topic. For my very first coaching gig I coached at the school I played at and graduated from. Perennial power in the state of Michigan. All of those guys coached me and they are still there to this day. Once I became a peer and coached with them they would use my first name but I never felt comfortable calling them anything other than coach or sir, a value they have instilled into all of their players. I still don't use their names when I see them now and we play one another.
Second stop, same thing. HC was a former NFL baller and I'd never use his first name.
Stop #3, I used the HC's first name, but he wasn't really a guy I liked, took seriously, or had respect for. This is why I had to move on. Was best for me, for him, and most importantly the players. Young coaches, if you can't respect your HC, move on. There are other gigs out there.
Stop #4, HC coached for Navy and BYU before hiring me on at the high school program he was taking over. We are still in contact today and I still don't call him "Joe". He is Coach, or Coach ________.
Stop #5, current stop. Another perennial power in the state of Michigan and I wouldn't dream of calling our HC by his first name, or just his last name.
For me the trend is if I respect the guy I guess he's coach. If I hold him in a lesser regard I'll use his name. If somebody is my equal I tend to use their first or last name as well.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Jan 12, 2016 12:11:58 GMT -6
I honestly prefer to be called by my first name or last name. For my entire life everyone above or below me used one of my names, and then my close friends always had some sort of nickname that they used.
I think a lot of it, at least with other coaches, is connected to your friendship level with them. I use first names for almost our entire staff, including the HC. Because those guys are some of the very best friends I've had and are people I would trust with my life. I'll call them by name because of that. For me, it's not a lack of respect it's more of a level of family that I feel like we are. And most of our staff does the exact same thing. New guys are always Coach until they become part of the immediate family.
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Post by 33coach on Jan 12, 2016 16:21:51 GMT -6
A few years ago I had the privilege of attending the wedding of a high school teammate of mine. When my wife and I and another teammate of mine and his girlfriend arrived at the venue site we just happened to park next our HS OLine Coach. We greeted him and his wife, "Hello Coach and Mrs. Smith." They returned the greeting and his wife turned and asked him why we still refer to him as "Coach?" For me it was two-fold. Habit and respect. Habit. I returned to coach at my alma mater and our HC has a policy that coaching is a profession and we needed to use our title of Coach around the boys to be professional. So when you spend 4 years in HS calling someone Coach. Then you work with them for x amount of years calling them Coach, it becomes automatic. Respect. They were my HS Coaches. They were a huge influence in my life during formidable years. And I appreciate the many lessons that were taught to me. My question is what would be your response to your significant other when they ask the question "Why do they still call you Coach?" All my former players call me coach. I expect it, because I call all my former coaches by coach... It's a sports thing... Either you get it or you dont, and explaining it won't help... |
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Post by coachtua on Jan 12, 2016 16:31:54 GMT -6
I go by Coach Tua, not Coach Meyers (my last name). Its a comfort thing.
Like others have said it just feels weird addressing my HS coaches by their first name even though I am considered by them to be a colleague now. I do still struggle to call my current HC By his last name because we were HS teammates.
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Post by 33coach on Jan 12, 2016 16:40:28 GMT -6
I go by Coach Tua, not Coach Meyers (my last name). Its a comfort thing. Like others have said it just feels weird addressing my HS coaches by their first name even though I am considered by them to be a colleague now. I do still struggle to call my current HC By his last name because we were HS teammates. i dont even call other coaches by their first name... if we met at a clinic or a bar or on the field, im 99% sure i will call you coach. |
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Post by td4tc on Jan 12, 2016 16:50:29 GMT -6
I go by Coach Tua, not Coach Meyers (my last name). Its a comfort thing. Like others have said it just feels weird addressing my HS coaches by their first name even though I am considered by them to be a colleague now. I do still struggle to call my current HC By his last name because we were HS teammates. i dont even call other coaches by their first name... if we met at a clinic or a bar or on the field, im 99% sure i will call you coach. That's what I like the best , coach33. With my touch of Alzheimer's I can go to a clinic and see all my coaching buddies and not have to remember everybody's name. "Hey coach". How you doing, coach?" Everybody calls everybody coach. And the other thing is, because of my Alzheimer's, I wake up with a new set of coaching friends every day. |
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 12, 2016 17:15:28 GMT -6
We all go by Coach.
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Post by pistolwhipped on Jan 12, 2016 18:34:03 GMT -6
The show wasn't called Hayden, or Fox.
It's COACH.
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Post by mrjvi on Jan 12, 2016 19:58:15 GMT -6
I loved that show.
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Post by coachtua on Jan 12, 2016 23:15:34 GMT -6
The show wasn't called Hayden, or Fox. It's COACH. Have they started the reboot yet of that show... |
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Post by coachguy83 on Jan 12, 2016 23:54:10 GMT -6
The show wasn't called Hayden, or Fox. It's COACH. Have they started the reboot yet of that show... I was just checking on that last week and it looks like the reboot was shelved. |
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Post by wolfden12 on Jan 13, 2016 8:42:42 GMT -6
Manners and Respect. Two things lacking in today's society in young and old. I say yes sir no sir, yes mam and no mam. Please and thank you always. Mr. and Mrs. to anyone. People get upset and I tell them I will not change. People ask if I am in the military and I say they aren't the only ones who can use these terms. KIds in school today role their eyes when asked to use these terms like they are embarrassed. It sarts at the top and hopefully funnels down to all parties involved.
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Post by funkfriss on Jan 13, 2016 9:14:06 GMT -6
Manners and Respect. Two things lacking in today's society in young and old. I say yes sir no sir, yes mam and no mam. Please and thank you always. Mr. and Mrs. to anyone. People get upset and I tell them I will not change. People ask if I am in the military and I say they aren't the only ones who can use these terms. KIds in school today role their eyes when asked to use these terms like they are embarrassed. It sarts at the top and hopefully funnels down to all parties involved. Bingo! I say "yes sir" "no sir" to my players. They ask me why, and I say it's because I respect them. Honestly it's really because mama always made sure I was using manners and it became a habit, but it is one habit I am glad I was taught. Thanks mama! I don't like it when people subscribe to the "you have to earn my respect" mantra. I believe you give everybody respect and it's up to them whether they keep it or lose it through their actions. |
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Post by Coach Bennett on Jan 13, 2016 9:23:58 GMT -6
For me, there's no bigger honor than to refer to someone as, or to be referred to as, "coach. "
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Post by Wingtman on Jan 13, 2016 9:33:33 GMT -6
My high school head coach is like a father to me, I've known him 20 years. I still call him coach. Always will. The other guys who are on "equal footing with me" on staff, we go by first names. Around the kids, others are always addressed as coach. I went to the YMCA the other day to work out, and a former player was in there working out. "Hey coach, hows it going?" I felt a huge sense of pride. I don't know why, just did.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 13, 2016 14:47:18 GMT -6
I still call all of my old coaches Coach.
I coached wrestling out of college with a guy who's only about 3 years older than me, I never wrestled for him, yet I would still only call him Coach because I respect him that much. Guy was in my wedding party for God's sake and I don't know that I've ever verbally called him Rob.
My wife was a stat for them (not the years I was coaching with him) and she still calls him coach.
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