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Post by fballcoachg on Jan 10, 2016 16:12:47 GMT -6
Have any of you had a practice with another team? My thought is to run it pretty close to our practice as is but instead of scout teams we run our stuff and they run theirs with the appropriate squad (1s vs 1s, 2s vs 2s, etc)
so we would have inside, 7s, situational team, short scrimmage...what else can we do? Maybe one on ones?
Any important guidelines to lay down at the start? Was going to address our team in advance about the purpose being us trying to get better, compete but don't push the line...keep a cool head.
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Post by John Knight on Jan 10, 2016 16:23:49 GMT -6
1.21) Any practice or workout including two or more teams or partial teams is a scrimmage 1.24) Grades 9-12 may participate in a maximum of two scrimmages not to exceed three hours in length. The three-hour time limit begins when the scrimmage begins. In addition to two scrimmages, high school teams may participate in a third preseason contest, a Jamboree. (see 1.3 on the next page) www.ohsaa.org/sports/rglts/ft.pdf
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Post by fballcoachg on Jan 10, 2016 16:58:25 GMT -6
Counting it as a scrimmage, figured it would be more beneficial since we are doing another and a jamboree.
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Post by buckeye7525 on Jan 10, 2016 17:06:09 GMT -6
fballcoachgWe did that about 6-7 years ago. It was basically done like you said. When we did our indy everyone was separated off. The 7on7/Inside Run period was the exact same as you would normally do, just instead of the scout defense you were going against the opponents #1 defense. Also, I believe when the skill guys were doing there 7on7 time the OL/DL did 1 on 1 pass rush drills as well. Likewise, I think skill guys did 1 on 1 coverage stuff during inside run. Team O/D was just a typical scrimmage.
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Post by John Knight on Jan 11, 2016 7:40:25 GMT -6
I have seen Jackson do this some coach, you still have to open it up to the public to scout I think. I didn't think they got much out of it compared to a scrimmage but your results may vary.
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Post by winstate on Jan 11, 2016 8:15:05 GMT -6
We did this with a team about 7 years ago and used it as our 1st scrimmage. I think there was some good things and then some things that needed to be communicated.
Inside Run - The other teams view on inside run period is that is should be a violent period. We view it as a time to work on communication, assignment, and technique. We would have no TE or FB and they would have 7 guys within 3 yards of the ball. I think with the right 2 staffs you could possibly make this work. If the personnel was communicated to the D coordinator that may help. Inside Run is like skelly, everyone knows what is coming. It is funny though, we did a Play action pass without throwing and you would have thought it was a real game the way their coaches started saying stuff to us for doing that. In this period, if a team got 2 yards it was considered a big play. Again with the right communication with personnel it could be an ok period. WR / DB were doing 1 on 1's during this time, really good stuff. However I do remember a few legs getting rolled up on.
Skelly- typical 7 on 7 except again they viewed this as a violet period. 1st time I have ever witnessed it like that. Our guys were getting leveled going over the middle or anywhere really. Again not one of their LBs played the run. We did a draw just to screw with them, and their coaches were mad at us for doing that. Take the violence out of this period and again can be good, again need to communicate personnel.
Team - This was just the typical scrimmage part that everyone does. 10 plays each a few times, then some Down and Distance stuff.
The one thing we have started doing to start a scrimmage is going 2 sets each of 10 plays with just a 3rd and long approach. It is like skelly with all 11 guys though. OL uses this as great pass pro work. Defense has to line up to formations with seeing all 11 guys. Defense would work blitzes, work coverages. QB would be off limits. It is really good stuff. I prefer doing this with no inside run. Save the run for the team scrimmage part.
I would love to know how the NFL guys do it when they practice together. How much planning / communication has to take place. Those guys though seem to have a mutual respect for each other besides a few altercations every once and a while between players.
The only thing I would never do with another team during a practice / scrimmage is inside run. Just wasn't worth the risk of injury.
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Post by John Knight on Jan 11, 2016 9:43:36 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Jan 11, 2016 13:29:52 GMT -6
That's not true. The ones that we read about are the ones that end in fights.
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Post by John Knight on Jan 11, 2016 14:03:40 GMT -6
www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/4652996-nfl-joint-practice-fights-cowboys-rams-redskins-texanssaying I speak with forked tongue, fanthom? The coaches aren’t the only ones who think the fighting is obnoxious. The players are getting tired of it as well. Packers guard Josh Sitton believes you’re just asking players to fight by holding joint practices. "I'm not a big fan of those,” he said to ESPN. “It's kind of stupid. It's just inviting fighting. It happens every single time.”
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Post by dytmook on Jan 11, 2016 14:06:13 GMT -6
We've done it with one of our camp days before. It's fun to see other guys. Other school is super nice too so that helps.
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Post by leighty on Jan 11, 2016 15:10:10 GMT -6
www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/4652996-nfl-joint-practice-fights-cowboys-rams-redskins-texanssaying I speak with forked tongue, fanthom? The coaches aren’t the only ones who think the fighting is obnoxious. The players are getting tired of it as well. Packers guard Josh Sitton believes you’re just asking players to fight by holding joint practices. "I'm not a big fan of those,” he said to ESPN. “It's kind of stupid. It's just inviting fighting. It happens every single time.” If Josh Sitton said it...
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Post by fantom on Jan 11, 2016 19:03:01 GMT -6
www.sportingnews.com/nfl-news/4652996-nfl-joint-practice-fights-cowboys-rams-redskins-texanssaying I speak with forked tongue, fanthom? The coaches aren’t the only ones who think the fighting is obnoxious. The players are getting tired of it as well. Packers guard Josh Sitton believes you’re just asking players to fight by holding joint practices. "I'm not a big fan of those,” he said to ESPN. “It's kind of stupid. It's just inviting fighting. It happens every single time.” I'm nit saying that you're lying. It happens but not every time. BUT, by that point in training camp there are fights even within the team. That said, I'm not crazy about the idea of bringing in another team. Just something else to worry about. If it means that we have to give up a scrimmage, I definitely wouldn't like it.
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Post by John Knight on Jan 11, 2016 19:08:00 GMT -6
BWHAHA Josh Sitton is the Law! LOL!!
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