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Post by bruinfb on Nov 23, 2015 11:41:50 GMT -6
I enjoyed reading the differing opinions in the thread on the kids getting arrested. I think the discussion on this type of thing is helpful to coaches.
Our team has only a few rules with defined consequences. However, we are purposely ambiguous with other guidelines, in order to give ourselves some wiggle room for varying circumstances. We generally do not allow kids to play in their game (varsity, JV, or Frosh) if they have missed a practice that week. At the sub-varsity level, this is meant to teach them to come to practice every day and we play everyone if they attend all practices, at the V level, we stress to the kids that coming to practice is how you prepare for the game, and if they miss a whole day, they are less prepared then their back-up. So we tell the kids if they miss practice, then they put it at the coaches discretion as to wether they play or not. It has not caused us any problems so far. However, I recognize that it could cause problems.
Example: if Johnny is a great player and is sick on a Monday and misses practice, that he may still be better and be the best prepared player at his position. If Joey is a lesser player, but a starter, and he misses practice on Monday, he may not be the best prepared player at his position. So should Johnny play and Joey doesn't? Is this fair or right? Is treating them differently the best thing?
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Post by chi5hi on Nov 23, 2015 17:46:02 GMT -6
The following applies to all levels.
I have guidelines, too. Illness is an automatic excuse. So are Dr. and Dentist appointments, tutoring after class, and Make up exams.
Parents don't want to remove their kid from school for Doctor and Dentist appointments so they make those appointments for after school hours. To me, that is reasonable so they are excused.
If a player remains after school for tutoring (I'm in a private school) he returns to practice with a note from the tutor...and is excused. Same for a make up test. Sometimes a kid gets sick during school and goes home early. A verification of that from parent/guardian will suffice.
Otherwise, each player is expected to honor his commitment to his team and be at practice and on time.
Missing a practice with no acceptable excuse is grounds for exclusion from the next game.
A side note, here. FOLLOW THROUGH, coach! 1 Game suspension...they'll test you with the most remarkable excuses you can imagine...and some are truly great ones! "My dog ate my homework!" doesn't work with me.
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Post by fantom on Nov 23, 2015 18:10:34 GMT -6
I enjoyed reading the differing opinions in the thread on the kids getting arrested. I think the discussion on this type of thing is helpful to coaches. Our team has only a few rules with defined consequences. However, we are purposely ambiguous with other guidelines, in order to give ourselves some wiggle room for varying circumstances. We generally do not allow kids to play in their game (varsity, JV, or Frosh) if they have missed a practice that week. At the sub-varsity level, this is meant to teach them to come to practice every day and we play everyone if they attend all practices, at the V level, we stress to the kids that coming to practice is how you prepare for the game, and if they miss a whole day, they are less prepared then their back-up. So we tell the kids if they miss practice, then they put it at the coaches discretion as to wether they play or not. It has not caused us any problems so far. However, I recognize that it could cause problems. Example: if Johnny is a great player and is sick on a Monday and misses practice, that he may still be better and be the best prepared player at his position. If Joey is a lesser player, but a starter, and he misses practice on Monday, he may not be the best prepared player at his position. So should Johnny play and Joey doesn't? Is this fair or right? Is treating them differently the best thing? You play the best players. If the kids are legitimately sick and have called in and practice the rest of the week neither will lose their jobs. If you're asking whether the skill level makes a difference, the answer is "Absolutely".
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Post by dubber on Nov 23, 2015 18:56:53 GMT -6
Agree with phantom, especially if there is a big drop off.
That sounds awful, but I'm being honest.
We are more inclined to "prove a point" when the #2 is right there with the #1.
But when the next man up isn't even on our special teams......
Example from this season:
I should say we are a 30-40 man roster. Our starting Mike was our dude this season. Due to injury, the next best kid was a freshman, who will be good in his time, but he is too far away right now.
Our starting Mike was told 1/2 way through the season he needed a tonsillectomy, which would have sidelined him for a couple weeks. Instead, he would just miss school and practice once a week to recover.
It was frustrating, but we lived with it.
It didn't hurt our team.
Here is something you need to consider: build a program where to coaches don't have to do all this BS micromanagement stuff.
Build the program that kids want to sacrifice for.......and your job is cake.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 23, 2015 21:30:07 GMT -6
This is one of the micro managements of being a HC that comes in; you have to be up front with team and the parents. If you HAVE to miss practice to get you eyes checked, adjust you braces, have your annual check up, etc....... Then it MUST be on this day. The rest are HC decision.
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Post by 44dlcoach on Nov 23, 2015 21:49:20 GMT -6
Fair and equal are two different things, keep that in mind.
We had two different guys who were to sick to practice during the year. One missed a bunch during summer and was splitting time. The other was a senior who made it to everything all off season, 4 year program guy and great weight room guy. First guy sits out the first half, second guy sits out one series.
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