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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 8, 2015 16:10:22 GMT -6
Anyone ever had to play a mini-game? Wondering about time management tips.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 8, 2015 16:41:37 GMT -6
Coach, What constitutes a "mini-game". I am sure many hear have played shortened jamborees (ours are typically two 15 minute halves)
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 8, 2015 17:42:52 GMT -6
We are in a 3 way tie for 3rd and 4th place in the region. All of us beat each other. We flipped to see who plays the first game. The winner of the first game is automatically in. The loser plays the team that lost the coin toss. The winner of that game is in and the regular season winner between the two winners determines the seeding.
The format is two 5 minute halves with 2 minutes between halve. Two timeouts in the first half and 1 in the second half. Any unused timeouts get carried over to the 2nd half. After that if its still tied then you go to a regular overtime rules.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 8, 2015 19:27:57 GMT -6
2 FIVE MINUTE HAVLES? The total game is less than an actual quarter of play? I am sorry, I generally don't comment on how others do things, but this might be one of the dumbest things I have seen in athletics. I HONESTLY would rather just rather toss 3 coins and the odd man advances.
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Post by fantom on Nov 8, 2015 19:32:50 GMT -6
2 FIVE MINUTE HAVLES? The total game is less than an actual quarter of play? I am sorry, I generally don't comment on how others do things, but this might be one of the dumbest things I have seen in athletics. I HONESTLY would rather just rather toss 3 coins and the odd man advances. I thought that the coin flip was the most effed up thing that I ever heard. I stand corrected. |
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 8, 2015 19:43:12 GMT -6
That is the ghsa standard!
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 8, 2015 19:53:57 GMT -6
That is the ghsa standard! I wasn't suggesting that this was your idea. I was simply saying that if I were involved, I would rather the three HCs meet up and each flip a coin..with the odd coin advancing. Or in this case, if you need two...the odd person being eliminated. This would be preferable to me than "mini games" of FIVE minute halves. Heck, the person kicking off has a great chance of having to run a two minute offense if they don't get a 3 and out. |
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 8, 2015 20:36:49 GMT -6
That is the ghsa standard! I wasn't suggesting that this was your idea. I was simply saying that if I were involved, I would rather the three HCs meet up and each flip a coin..with the odd coin advancing. Or in this case, if you need two...the odd person being eliminated. This would be preferable to me than "mini games" of FIVE minute halves. Heck, the person kicking off has a great chance of having to run a two minute offense if they don't get a 3 and out. Oh I knew that wasn't directed at me. Yes we met for about an hour tonight on whether to kickoff or receive, how do we use timeouts, ect. We play either a spread team or a gun wing t team. The wing team is very patient and kept us off the field the last time we played. Very good chance if we kickoff that we are running a two minute offense in the first half. |
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Post by dubber on Nov 8, 2015 20:57:26 GMT -6
coachfloyd I wasn't suggesting that this was your idea. I was simply saying that if I were involved, I would rather the three HCs meet up and each flip a coin..with the odd coin advancing. Or in this case, if you need two...the odd person being eliminated. This would be preferable to me than "mini games" of FIVE minute halves. Heck, the person kicking off has a great chance of having to run a two minute offense if they don't get a 3 and out. Oh I knew that wasn't directed at me. Yes we met for about an hour tonight on whether to kickoff or receive, how do we use timeouts, ect. We play either a spread team or a gun wing t team. The wing team is very patient and kept us off the field the last time we played. Very good chance if we kickoff that we are running a two minute offense in the first half. You gotta let us know how this turns out. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 8, 2015 21:17:46 GMT -6
coachfloyd I wasn't suggesting that this was your idea. I was simply saying that if I were involved, I would rather the three HCs meet up and each flip a coin..with the odd coin advancing. Or in this case, if you need two...the odd person being eliminated. This would be preferable to me than "mini games" of FIVE minute halves. Heck, the person kicking off has a great chance of having to run a two minute offense if they don't get a 3 and out. Oh I knew that wasn't directed at me. Yes we met for about an hour tonight on whether to kickoff or receive, how do we use timeouts, ect. We play either a spread team or a gun wing t team. The wing team is very patient and kept us off the field the last time we played. Very good chance if we kickoff that we are running a two minute offense in the first half. I still can't get over what i consider to be the absurdity of this event. I mean, a team could kick off the first half, give up a 6 or 7 play scoring drive, not have the time to mount a real drive of their own...receive the 2nd half kickoff, have a negative play/penalty in the opening drive to put them behind the chains, punt, and not get the ball back. That is not football. |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Nov 8, 2015 22:19:47 GMT -6
To coach d's point, I would be incline to take the ball first if I felt better about my O and defer if I felt better about my D, if given the opportunity. If you defer and are able to get a stop and a score in the first half you are in great shape.
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 9, 2015 6:28:05 GMT -6
Oh I knew that wasn't directed at me. Yes we met for about an hour tonight on whether to kickoff or receive, how do we use timeouts, ect. We play either a spread team or a gun wing t team. The wing team is very patient and kept us off the field the last time we played. Very good chance if we kickoff that we are running a two minute offense in the first half. You gotta let us know how this turns out. I will. |
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 9, 2015 6:29:55 GMT -6
Oh I knew that wasn't directed at me. Yes we met for about an hour tonight on whether to kickoff or receive, how do we use timeouts, ect. We play either a spread team or a gun wing t team. The wing team is very patient and kept us off the field the last time we played. Very good chance if we kickoff that we are running a two minute offense in the first half. I still can't get over what i consider to be the absurdity of this event. I mean, a team could kick off the first half, give up a 6 or 7 play scoring drive, not have the time to mount a real drive of their own...receive the 2nd half kickoff, have a negative play/penalty in the opening drive to put them behind the chains, punt, and not get the ball back. That is not football. I agree. This is only used as the tie breaker if there are more teams than available spots. We screwed up by letting one of these teams beat us that had no business beating us. Thats the team I hope we get to play. The most unfair part of it is the team that loses the toss only gets one chance to play. The others can lose one and still play in the 2nd game. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 7:04:12 GMT -6
Anyone ever had to play a mini-game? Wondering about time management tips. Physically makes me ill!!! |
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 9, 2015 7:37:11 GMT -6
me too
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Post by bigmoot on Nov 9, 2015 8:13:54 GMT -6
coachfloyd...atleast if still tied at the end of 2 five min halves it goes to OT. Do you remember when the game was decided on penetration during the 2 five min halves? Now that was fun......
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 9, 2015 8:42:54 GMT -6
coachfloyd...atleast if still tied at the end of 2 five min halves it goes to OT. Do you remember when the game was decided on penetration during the 2 five min halves? Now that was fun...... I do remember penetration games from the 90's. |
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Post by raymul313 on Nov 9, 2015 9:28:32 GMT -6
coachfloyd...atleast if still tied at the end of 2 five min halves it goes to OT. Do you remember when the game was decided on penetration during the 2 five min halves? Now that was fun...... I do remember penetration games from the 90's. What does penetration game refer to (giggity)? |
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Post by bigmoot on Nov 9, 2015 9:50:32 GMT -6
raymul...lol...if no one scored during the 2 five minute periods, whoever advanced the ball the furthest was awarded one point and the victory. Ex...Team A drove the ball to the 50. Team B drove the ball down to the 35 and time runs out. Team B would win by 1. There were a few 1-0 scores back in the day.
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Post by bigmoot on Nov 9, 2015 9:51:21 GMT -6
oh yea. principals (or game admin) would have to keep up with their teams penetration by using an orange cone on the sidline.
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Post by raymul313 on Nov 9, 2015 10:00:37 GMT -6
Wow I have never heard of anything more stupid (I'm going to regret that statment in due time) If no one scores how can you gain a point is beyond me, that's something you see in futbol.
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Post by dubber on Nov 9, 2015 10:12:59 GMT -6
Wow.
If my defense was my strength, I would definitely defer. Get a 3 and out and then go score before half. Receive the second half kick off and get into a 4 minute mode.
If my offense was my strength, I would want the ball. Score first, and hopefully you have the other guys in a two minute drill the rest of the game.
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Post by pistola on Nov 9, 2015 10:18:27 GMT -6
The worst part of this is that it doesn't eliminate the coin toss (if im reading correctly). One team is still at a disadvantage from a flip of a coin, just crazy! I do guess this settles it on the field, just in a magnified sense with absolutely no room for a mistake of any kind.
3 way tie here goes off of point differential
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Post by olinedude on Nov 9, 2015 12:21:25 GMT -6
We are a power run team, so I'd defer. Let them have the ball, hopefully you get a stop. If they score you go 2 min and try to put points on the board. With our offense, they wouldn't get the ball back in the second half. If they score first half and you don't, use the whole second half and go for two or go to overtime at the end.
I'd say you attack it based on your offensive strength. If your a tempo, extend the game team, you do that on steroids and get as many plays in as possible. If you are a ball control offense, you do that on steroids and snap the ball with 1 second on the play clock the whole game. Either way, do what your philosophy is just magnified.
And yeah, thats a really strange way to do it, but at least you get to decide it on the grass with your guys I guess.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 9, 2015 12:40:25 GMT -6
We are a power run team, so I'd defer. Let them have the ball, hopefully you get a stop. If they score you go 2 min and try to put points on the board. With our offense, they wouldn't get the ball back in the second half. If they score first half and you don't, use the whole second half and go for two or go to overtime at the end. I'd say you attack it based on your offensive strength. If your a tempo, extend the game team, you do that on steroids and get as many plays in as possible. If you are a ball control offense, you do that on steroids and snap the ball with 1 second on the play clock the whole game. Either way, do what your philosophy is just magnified. And yeah, thats a really strange way to do it, but at least you get to decide it on the grass with your guys I guess. But are you really deciding it on grass? That is my issue. If is fake legitimacy. I as both a player and coach would much rather say "darn luck" after loosing a 3 way coin flip than play in this type of truncated situation |
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 9, 2015 13:26:13 GMT -6
we play between 630 and 700 so Ill have an update later tonight.
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Post by dubber on Nov 9, 2015 19:07:09 GMT -6
I also think you a lot of these games would end up in overtime.
Really, I would rather just play an overtime match up winner takes all.
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Post by coachfloyd on Nov 9, 2015 22:20:32 GMT -6
We lost. Turns out our QB was injured and couldn't go. If anybody got to see his highlights from the Speed Option thread then you will know what type of loss that is.
First off the first game did go into overtime. Team we beat and had 535 yards against gets to go to the playoffs and we don't . ha!
We elected to get the ball first since we thought we would be able to run against this team. We have our top WR now at QB. He played QB all summer before we moved the other kid there. He played pretty dang good for not much practice but he fumbled on his first rush attempt deep in our own territory. They got it and they scored. Then we were in 2 minute mode and he performed well but it was just too much. We got it down to about the 30. Then we kick to them in the 2nd half and they milk all the clock but fumble it back to us. We have about a minute and a half left and we get it to around their 40. We get in empty and go smash with a Post by our #3 and its wide open and he just floats it and they intercept it. If he throws it on a line we have a chance to tie the game. Then its over. Next time I would much rather just flip a coin. You only get one real drive in the game and the rest is 2 minute drill.
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