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Oct 20, 2015 15:10:47 GMT -6
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Post by rennat63 on Oct 20, 2015 15:10:47 GMT -6
Just wanting to pick some brains, how much contact does everyone have during practice? We are towards the end of the season and we are still having quite a bit of contact. Talk with a friend who coaches and he told me that over the years he has cut way down on live contact. I wonder if this approach will make the kids less physical? Again just thinking out loud .
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Oct 20, 2015 21:45:18 GMT -6
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Post by 44dlcoach on Oct 20, 2015 21:45:18 GMT -6
We reduce contact by reducing the amount of time we are on the field. We try to keep the tempo of the periods just as intense as they were early in the year, just have fewer of them later in the year.
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Oct 21, 2015 9:08:51 GMT -6
Post by pistola on Oct 21, 2015 9:08:51 GMT -6
we start reducing contact as we get deeper into the season.. hoping for just a little less wear and tear.. if they arent physical by then they won't be.. and if they already are, i dont think they will stop being physical in the game
*By reducing contact i mean less time on periods, super quick whistle and so on
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Post by coachbdud on Oct 21, 2015 11:39:08 GMT -6
We rarely hit at all in team
I prefer team on air Or with just a couple defenders working a specific look i want
We get too banged up if we hit during the week
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Oct 21, 2015 12:07:03 GMT -6
OL/DL are live almost all the time. We never tackle backs to ground- we do "whizz" tempo- defense flies to the ball and taps both hips or thighboards.
Inside run is the toughest drill of the day- we do some version of this most days- still we do not tackle to ground.
Team is thud or whizz tempo at all times.
At this point in the season I feel very comfortable with where we are. Pregame we fly around in helmets only- this has been the first year where the kids understand the concept of full speed/no contact and we have been VERY healthy at practice. Worst injury has been jammed fingers from QB throwing strikes and a couple of turfburned knees from dudes being unathletic and falling down.
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Post by fantom on Oct 21, 2015 12:09:55 GMT -6
We rarely hit at all in team I prefer team on air Or with just a couple defenders working a specific look i want We get too banged up if we hit during the week I'm in favor if reducing contact and if something works for you, fine. To me, though, for the OL, running plays on air is a waste of time.
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Oct 21, 2015 14:49:43 GMT -6
Post by fbs on Oct 21, 2015 14:49:43 GMT -6
I'm a career OL guy, and I am also a tempo guy. There's a place for team on air for linemen but only if it's your tempo period, we would use it for conditioning. the bulk of your scheme work and fundamental work comes in indy, inside and blitz periods. Use TOA as conditioning for the OL and work your tempo.
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Post by coachdubyah on Oct 21, 2015 19:47:28 GMT -6
The single best thing I started doing as an OL Coach was to do my Indy and group work against our Dline. I started this once the season started. We hit the sled every Monday for 5 min. Everything else is blocked live. HOWEVER, we stay up and we take care of each other. I coached wrestling for 2 years and I've sort of taken that approach. Told the kids "hey this is not a get after your a$$ period. We are working together". Last June I watched an old DVD that I forgot I had by Joe Bugle and the Counter Series when he was with the Redskins. He spent the first 20 min of the tape talking about how he sets up his practice. The Redskins did that and this year was the first year I've done it. We are not world beaters but, we have improved significantly due to the fact that we spend over half of our practice working against a real person as opposed to a dummy.
Last tidbit, regardless of what style of O or D you run, good football teams like to hit. Period. In most cases the teams still playing around Thanksgiving are teams that are in some form physical. You can't substitute game reps.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:16:25 GMT -6
Post by jasper912 on Oct 22, 2015 18:16:25 GMT -6
We are at a small school so most guys play both ways. So the difference between first team and scout team is pretty significant.
We NEVER tackle in practice during the season. Our OL/DL always work on other live players.
In team our OL/DL is pretty much live but every thing else is just wrapping up the ball carrier.
We are undefeated and are a very physical team. We have won at least 2 games by being physical. We are also from the sticks with a bunch of tough country kids.
Only have 1 serious injury the whole season and it happened during the game.
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Oct 22, 2015 23:41:18 GMT -6
Post by spartan on Oct 22, 2015 23:41:18 GMT -6
Early in the season as much as you can get then pull back, find out who your horses are.
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Oct 23, 2015 7:21:05 GMT -6
Post by mrjvi on Oct 23, 2015 7:21:05 GMT -6
At this point I shorten practices which reduces the amount of contact. Our contact, though, is full w/o taking anyone to the ground except on Tuesdays where we have a 15-20 play live period. Earlier in the season that is a 40-50 plays session. We do anaerobic conditioning with bag reps but we do live for "collision conditioning". I feel both are needed.
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Oct 24, 2015 11:39:44 GMT -6
Post by orion320 on Oct 24, 2015 11:39:44 GMT -6
Depth is always a major concern for our program but we will get after it a few times i camp and a few times throughout the season. We have a few drills where we go full contact and lots of intensity but as the season progresses we scale it back in attempt to save the kids.
This year we had a particularly embarrasing game so on Monday we skipped film and game prep for the next week and did a scrimmage format practice. It definitely worked as we came out the next week and knocked off a top 10 team in state.
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Post by gibbs72 on Oct 25, 2015 15:31:11 GMT -6
Very little. Thud during team and skelly.
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Oct 25, 2015 15:44:03 GMT -6
Post by IronmanFootball on Oct 25, 2015 15:44:03 GMT -6
On Monday we do a mixed practice (O and D) we will work fundys for block and tackle. Blocking includes the yo-yo drill Art Kehoe always loved. It also includes a 3 on 2 drills 2 OL working combos from a DL trying to split double up to LB. There's a RB who usually goes untouched. Each guy goes twice on OL once on DL. It's a 5x5 drill. We also do tackling circuit which has a hawk-angle tackle spot. Each guys goes once.
Monday we do the blocking drill with chicken coup or boards.
Tuesday we do the hawk angle again only.
During kicking game we will quick whistle but we tell them live.
During offense day it's a very quick whistle, defense a little slower. If we tell our kids it's "whiz" or "Thud" they don't get in there and work. Same purpose different method.
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